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BrentED
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re: Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/28/24 at 10:08 am to Bestbank Tiger
Thanks! This is really helpful!
re: Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/28/24 at 10:05 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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If you want to get even more into Roth IRA, consider a Roth conversion on the SIMPLE IRA. You'd have to pay income tax on the converted $ but it doesnt count against annual IRA contribution limits. Rolling it into TSP would delay those taxes until withdrawal but just limits accessibility, investment choices and would remain traditional instead of boosting your Roth balance.
Seems like the better approach. While the TSP would have a much higher balance and the conversion would probably help having that account continue to snowball, the ROTH IRA would give me more options on investing (which I like having) and if I could access it a bit easier (if needed) that'd be nice.
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These Roth vs traditional vs taxable brokerage choices are all predicated on current and future income/tax situation. With expected pension and if you have sizeable rental income etc, at retirement your tax rate be higher than now but perhaps not if your current income is high. Dont assume Roth is best it gets overhyped.
Yeah, this is where I've been struggling for a year or two now. I bought into the ROTH TSP hype and it's all ROTH now, but the more I think about it, unless I can manage to get 3-4 more rentals before retirement (which is possible, and a goal) then it seems like my income is higher now than it will be then, which means I should probable get out of ROTH.
re: Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/28/24 at 9:53 am to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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I'd highly encourage you to pause on getting knowledge and experience trading stocks and instead focus on learning the basics of investing in tax advantaged accounts, asset types and taxation. You have some gaps in understanding TSP, your primary retirement investment account. So I would focus there first.
Thanks! This is why I gave so much information and background with investment accounts. You can say you want to discuss strategies for selling stocks. But I know there's definitely a priority/hierarchy to making your money work for you, and that doing so with tax advantaged accounts seems to be close to the top of the list.
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TSP (like 401ks) are a separate limit than IRAs. You can max both TSP and IRA (Roth or traditional). You need to consider marginal tax bracket now versus the effective rate you expect to pay on withdrwals (some portion is likely to fall in lower bracket even if last part of annual withdrawal falls in a high bracket. So dont just compare marginal vs future marginal rate.)
Got it. Good info that I was unaware of.
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Your TSP employee contribution max is combined between civilian and uniformed service TSP accounts (just like you cant max 2 seperate 401ks for same individual). You also need to make sure not to max it before last paycheck because there is no true up provision w TSP so you miss matching for rest of year.
Yup! Ran into this issue last year. Missed out on nearly $1k free money.
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If you arent over income limit you can also contribute to Roth IRA (can also fund one for spouse.) If over limit you could backdoor Roth but first you would probably want to rollover the SIMPLE IRA into TSP to avoid prorata rule.
I make the cut. Would rolling over my simple IRA account into my TSP have any effect on my $23,500 limit per year for my ROTH TSP? Or would a rollover be exempt from those contribution limits?
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Sorry, that's a lot but hope it is helpful and illustrates the point you have a lot to learn about your primary investments before concentrating efforts on how to effectively assess value and trade stocks.
No, this is super helpful. The goal is to make my money work as well for me as it can without me screwing it up. I've made enough mistakes managing investments over the years, I'm ready to get it straight and there's not any room for ego when the alternative is to kick myself a year or two from now when I learn there's a better way but it cost me a couple thousand dollars. Thanks!
re: Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/27/24 at 4:01 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
Thanks!
I was beginning to get this feeling. For some of the stocks of interest around here, it's easier (e.g., SLI, AUPH), but for others, it's a lot to keep up with.
Yup! I just started playing around with individual stocks originally, and then picked up on the ETFs about halfway down the line. While the gains aren't hitting like NVDA or SPOT, the losses also aren't hitting like Rivian and AUPH. So I think I'm slowly transitioning to a more ETF-heavy approach.
So the TSP account I'm maxing is a ROTH TSP. I'm a fed employee and a Reservist. I went above the ROTH cap last year with those two accounts and it messed with my taxes a bit. Not sure if I can start a ROTH IRA if I'm already maxing the ROTH cap with my TSPs. But if you know, I agree that would be my preferred approach. The reason I started this account in the first place was that my TSP was maxed out, and I didn't just want the money to sit in savings. But if I could fund a ROTH IRA with it, I wouldn't be opposed to that.
I also have a small simple IRA account from a prior employer and a bit in state pension, I could go after to fund the ROTH IRA aside from this E*Trade account that would give it a nice start.
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15+ stocks is a lot for anyone much less an amateur to effectively track and make actual informed decisions.
I was beginning to get this feeling. For some of the stocks of interest around here, it's easier (e.g., SLI, AUPH), but for others, it's a lot to keep up with.
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I learned long ago I couldnt keep up/didnt have desire to and didnt have an exit strategy either. I'm also tax averse so never want to sell my winners and when they are climbing dont want to miss gains. Due to this, I held Boeing, CVS, and others through large gains and subsequent declines. So, I stopped investing in anything but ETFs where I could buy/hold and not try in vain to out smart the market and experts w real insight into specific companies and industries. Once in awhile I dabble but it's for entertainment like dropping some $ on a few hands of blackjack nothing more serious.
Yup! I just started playing around with individual stocks originally, and then picked up on the ETFs about halfway down the line. While the gains aren't hitting like NVDA or SPOT, the losses also aren't hitting like Rivian and AUPH. So I think I'm slowly transitioning to a more ETF-heavy approach.
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You mention TSP and 529, are you funding Roth IRAs too? if not, that would be my next move.
So the TSP account I'm maxing is a ROTH TSP. I'm a fed employee and a Reservist. I went above the ROTH cap last year with those two accounts and it messed with my taxes a bit. Not sure if I can start a ROTH IRA if I'm already maxing the ROTH cap with my TSPs. But if you know, I agree that would be my preferred approach. The reason I started this account in the first place was that my TSP was maxed out, and I didn't just want the money to sit in savings. But if I could fund a ROTH IRA with it, I wouldn't be opposed to that.
I also have a small simple IRA account from a prior employer and a bit in state pension, I could go after to fund the ROTH IRA aside from this E*Trade account that would give it a nice start.
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Yeah, it was a lot. Sorry about that. Thought about dialing it back, but I've been reading this board long enough to know a number of questions that follow these threads and was just trying to give as much background as possible (e.g., describing that this account isn't for retirement, etc. ).
I also know that the question of what my goal is (i.e., investment vs. trading) is usually a key focus, and in this case it's a bit of a hybrid.
Thanks for the recs. Appreciate it.
Yeah, it was a lot. Sorry about that. Thought about dialing it back, but I've been reading this board long enough to know a number of questions that follow these threads and was just trying to give as much background as possible (e.g., describing that this account isn't for retirement, etc. ).
I also know that the question of what my goal is (i.e., investment vs. trading) is usually a key focus, and in this case it's a bit of a hybrid.
Thanks for the recs. Appreciate it.
re: Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/27/24 at 3:01 pm to rowbear1922
Makes sense.
I have a similar issue with some Fisker stock I purchased. It might never rise to what I paid for it, but it's not worth selling at this point. So I'll just hang-on and see (keeping hopes low on that one).
While the situation isn't quite as dire for SLI or AUPH (down 55% and 68%, respectively), the same applies. I plan to just hold with hopes that they go up and buying a bit more from time-to-time to get my average down a bit.
But with something like Spotify, for instance, it's up 118% since my purchase. Sure, it could continue to climb, but what all would you factor into making the decision it's time to cash a bit of that out.
I have an exit strategy for some of my NVDA holdings (as described in the OP), which is to cash out some of my shares if and when the gains match what I've invested. But I also recognize NVDA is a bit different than the bulk of my portfolio and would just be interested to hear a similar thought process on what would go into the MBs calculus and approach on selling others, or thoughts on the approach I'm taking with NVDA.
I have a similar issue with some Fisker stock I purchased. It might never rise to what I paid for it, but it's not worth selling at this point. So I'll just hang-on and see (keeping hopes low on that one).
While the situation isn't quite as dire for SLI or AUPH (down 55% and 68%, respectively), the same applies. I plan to just hold with hopes that they go up and buying a bit more from time-to-time to get my average down a bit.
But with something like Spotify, for instance, it's up 118% since my purchase. Sure, it could continue to climb, but what all would you factor into making the decision it's time to cash a bit of that out.
I have an exit strategy for some of my NVDA holdings (as described in the OP), which is to cash out some of my shares if and when the gains match what I've invested. But I also recognize NVDA is a bit different than the bulk of my portfolio and would just be interested to hear a similar thought process on what would go into the MBs calculus and approach on selling others, or thoughts on the approach I'm taking with NVDA.
Strategic Approach with Selling Individual Stocks?
Posted by BrentED on 6/27/24 at 1:11 pm
First time posting on the Money Board. Long-time lurker. First, thanks for all the great information on here always, including on the stickied threads up top.
I wanted to get the MB’s thoughts on when to buy/sell various stocks that I’m investing in. I get “buy low, sell high,” but I’d like to see what resources (books, podcasts, videos) and insights/strategies you all might have on this account I opened. Let me give a bit more info.
I’m a federal employee and have my TSP maxed out and have 529s periodically funded for my kids. I have a rental and I’ve been considering buying another property for a while, but haven’t pulled the trigger for a variety of reasons. So rather than just watch my savings lose value, I moved my savings into a HYSA, and then decided to open an E*Trade account with a bit of my savings about 18 months ago to get a bit more return. The E*Trade account isn’t for retirement, but just to try to generate a bit more return and pull out, if/when needed, for a big purchase/investment, or to just keep trading/re-investing over time.
I put in an initial amount into the account when I opened it to just get an understanding of stocks and have just let it sit since that time. I’ve periodically funded this account, and have bought other stocks, but haven’t sold anything yet. I’ve had about a 10% return since that time (admittedly with more losers than winners, but NVDA, SPOT, and my ETFs have really helped tip the scales in the green). I have about half my portfolio in ETFs (e.g., QQQM, VOO, and SCHD) and the other half in individual stocks (NVDA, SLI, SPOT, AUPH, AKBA, PLTR, and probably about ten others). My NVDA holdings make-up about 1/3 of the value of this portfolio, and I considered selling a bit off if it climbed another 20-30 points before it’s recent dip over the last week.
My current strategy is to continue to treat the ETFs more as investments, but would like to begin selling portions of some of the individual winners and trading them (not on a daily/weekly basis), but just in an effort to realize some of the gains, and reinvest those gains in stocks that might have a bit more room to run. With NVDA, as an example, ideally if it continues to rise, I’d like to hang on to some long-term, but if I could pull out a portion of it once I get my initial investment back, that’d be nice to know that anything else that came from that would just be gains.
Does anyone have any pointers/strategies for doing so, or resources I should be considering to better educate myself in trading periodically? Unlike my retirement account, I know with individual stocks, I should be a bit more active in the management. Also, when I realize some of these gains by selling, what resources would you recommend in terms of educating myself on the tax ramifications if I’m still just reinvesting them in this E*Trade account.
Again, I realize this is the fundamental question of how to “buy low, sell high,” but I feel I’m just letting everything sit without much strategy and would be interested in any POVs on how to approach this (i.e., similar to the long-term ETF and NVDA approach above). Thanks.
I wanted to get the MB’s thoughts on when to buy/sell various stocks that I’m investing in. I get “buy low, sell high,” but I’d like to see what resources (books, podcasts, videos) and insights/strategies you all might have on this account I opened. Let me give a bit more info.
I’m a federal employee and have my TSP maxed out and have 529s periodically funded for my kids. I have a rental and I’ve been considering buying another property for a while, but haven’t pulled the trigger for a variety of reasons. So rather than just watch my savings lose value, I moved my savings into a HYSA, and then decided to open an E*Trade account with a bit of my savings about 18 months ago to get a bit more return. The E*Trade account isn’t for retirement, but just to try to generate a bit more return and pull out, if/when needed, for a big purchase/investment, or to just keep trading/re-investing over time.
I put in an initial amount into the account when I opened it to just get an understanding of stocks and have just let it sit since that time. I’ve periodically funded this account, and have bought other stocks, but haven’t sold anything yet. I’ve had about a 10% return since that time (admittedly with more losers than winners, but NVDA, SPOT, and my ETFs have really helped tip the scales in the green). I have about half my portfolio in ETFs (e.g., QQQM, VOO, and SCHD) and the other half in individual stocks (NVDA, SLI, SPOT, AUPH, AKBA, PLTR, and probably about ten others). My NVDA holdings make-up about 1/3 of the value of this portfolio, and I considered selling a bit off if it climbed another 20-30 points before it’s recent dip over the last week.
My current strategy is to continue to treat the ETFs more as investments, but would like to begin selling portions of some of the individual winners and trading them (not on a daily/weekly basis), but just in an effort to realize some of the gains, and reinvest those gains in stocks that might have a bit more room to run. With NVDA, as an example, ideally if it continues to rise, I’d like to hang on to some long-term, but if I could pull out a portion of it once I get my initial investment back, that’d be nice to know that anything else that came from that would just be gains.
Does anyone have any pointers/strategies for doing so, or resources I should be considering to better educate myself in trading periodically? Unlike my retirement account, I know with individual stocks, I should be a bit more active in the management. Also, when I realize some of these gains by selling, what resources would you recommend in terms of educating myself on the tax ramifications if I’m still just reinvesting them in this E*Trade account.
Again, I realize this is the fundamental question of how to “buy low, sell high,” but I feel I’m just letting everything sit without much strategy and would be interested in any POVs on how to approach this (i.e., similar to the long-term ETF and NVDA approach above). Thanks.
re: Anybody Here Live in Northern Virginia/DC?
Posted by BrentED on 11/16/21 at 2:38 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I live in northern VA. Been here for about 5 years (Burke then Stafford).
While there are better options than Stafford (depending on what you’re looking for), I love the area, in general.
My 7 year old said he likes Virginia more than Louisiana because Virginia takes the seasons seriously. The are four distinct seasons. The leaves right now are incredible. It snows 3-5 times per year where I’m at (more in the mountains), Spring has cherry blossoms and comes right when you’re over the 3 months of winter, Summer can be oppressive at times but it’s short and a solid 4 months to spend at the pool.
Aside from traffic (which with telework is much less of an issue) and the cost of real estate, it’s a great place. Within 2 hours of mountains, 2 hours of the beach (4 hours for great NC beaches).
The vineyard, craft brew, distillery, and cidery scene has blown up over the past 10 years. A ton of great options within 2 hours.
A lot of history from north of DC all the way to Jamestown. Williamsburg and Jamestown are great visits. More than 3 dozen Civil War battlefields across the area (from Gettysburg, Bull Run, Chancellorsville, and Fredericksburg).
Richmond, Virginia Beach, Charlottesville, Harrisonburg, Fredericksburg, all have perks for the cities they are. DC is great in terms of history. . . Though I wouldn’t live there.
And Richmond, DC, Charlottesville get big name artists for concerts.
Also, it’s 3.5 hours to Philly, 4.5 hours to NYC and 7 or so hours to New England.
Roads and schools are also some of the best.
Thought this would be a 3 year stop. But could see sticking around a while.
Most weekends, even after 5 years, i feel like I’m on vacation and never run out of something new to do.
While there are better options than Stafford (depending on what you’re looking for), I love the area, in general.
My 7 year old said he likes Virginia more than Louisiana because Virginia takes the seasons seriously. The are four distinct seasons. The leaves right now are incredible. It snows 3-5 times per year where I’m at (more in the mountains), Spring has cherry blossoms and comes right when you’re over the 3 months of winter, Summer can be oppressive at times but it’s short and a solid 4 months to spend at the pool.
Aside from traffic (which with telework is much less of an issue) and the cost of real estate, it’s a great place. Within 2 hours of mountains, 2 hours of the beach (4 hours for great NC beaches).
The vineyard, craft brew, distillery, and cidery scene has blown up over the past 10 years. A ton of great options within 2 hours.
A lot of history from north of DC all the way to Jamestown. Williamsburg and Jamestown are great visits. More than 3 dozen Civil War battlefields across the area (from Gettysburg, Bull Run, Chancellorsville, and Fredericksburg).
Richmond, Virginia Beach, Charlottesville, Harrisonburg, Fredericksburg, all have perks for the cities they are. DC is great in terms of history. . . Though I wouldn’t live there.
And Richmond, DC, Charlottesville get big name artists for concerts.
Also, it’s 3.5 hours to Philly, 4.5 hours to NYC and 7 or so hours to New England.
Roads and schools are also some of the best.
Thought this would be a 3 year stop. But could see sticking around a while.
Most weekends, even after 5 years, i feel like I’m on vacation and never run out of something new to do.
Clay or Rudolph
Posted by BrentED on 11/12/17 at 11:49 am
Clay vs NO
Rudolph vs WSH
Standard scoring.
Thanks in advance.
Rudolph vs WSH
Standard scoring.
Thanks in advance.
re: Who to drop for J. Gordon?
Posted by BrentED on 11/7/17 at 8:47 pm to castorinho
I see what you're saying and somewhat agree but even if he sits on my bench, then he's not on the other guy's team that I'm playing in the playoffs if I pick him up.
. . . And absent a few injuries, none of the guys I've listed will be in my line-up either.
. . . And absent a few injuries, none of the guys I've listed will be in my line-up either.
re: Who to drop for J. Gordon?
Posted by BrentED on 11/7/17 at 7:43 pm to castorinho
No, this is strictly a move for weeks 14 and 15 in mind.
I tend to agree but I have to take a flyer for the playoffs with Zeke likely not going to be there at some point and all those guys not producing for me either.
Would Woodhead be a better option to pick up for any of those same guys?
Would Woodhead be a better option to pick up for any of those same guys?
Who to drop for J. Gordon?
Posted by BrentED on 11/7/17 at 7:26 pm
Barring a collapse, it looks as though I'm on my way to the playoffs, but with Elliott's playoff status uncertain, I need to figure out how to possibly make up that production in the playoffs. Luckily, Gordon is on the WW. So I'm hoping he can relive some 2014 magic
Thoughts on dropping any of these guys for him:
D McFadden
T Montgomery
D Henry
D Jackson
All these guys are on my Bench and have been for weeks.
I'm leaning McFadden but I'd like to see if he moves into Elliott's spot when the hammer finally comes down.
Thoughts on dropping any of these guys for him:
D McFadden
T Montgomery
D Henry
D Jackson
All these guys are on my Bench and have been for weeks.
I'm leaning McFadden but I'd like to see if he moves into Elliott's spot when the hammer finally comes down.
re: I'm being offered Mike Evans for Greg Zuerlien lol, should I?
Posted by BrentED on 11/7/17 at 7:23 pm to Wanderin Reb
I don't know how productive Zuerlien has been but I dropped Succop a few weeks ago while he was on his bye and he was snatched up. Been regretting dropping him every since. Gone from getting about 10-20 points from my kicker to getting about 8 points if I'm lucky.
. . . And I should've learned my lesson after dropping Lutz 3 weeks prior for his bye and getting lucky Succop was there when I did.
. . . And I should've learned my lesson after dropping Lutz 3 weeks prior for his bye and getting lucky Succop was there when I did.
re: Forte or Dion Lewis? PPR
Posted by BrentED on 11/7/17 at 7:15 pm to TechDawg2007
Forte
re: DoD Blended Retirement System
Posted by BrentED on 11/6/17 at 10:16 pm to NaturalBeam
If you're putting in 20+, stay with the current. If you intend to get out before 20 then switch to the new system.
It's not an all or nothing system anymore, meaning if you get out early then in the new system you get to keep some and there's some TSP matching, but the return is much better with the current system if you're in for the long haul.
I have some info on it at work. I'll post more details tomorrow, but the training should spell out my summary above in detail.
It's not an all or nothing system anymore, meaning if you get out early then in the new system you get to keep some and there's some TSP matching, but the return is much better with the current system if you're in for the long haul.
I have some info on it at work. I'll post more details tomorrow, but the training should spell out my summary above in detail.
re: Pick 2 of these 3 for RB and Flex
Posted by BrentED on 10/22/17 at 9:02 am to Upperdecker
Good call. Thanks
Just picked up Ivory. Thanks
Pick 2 of these 3 for RB and Flex
Posted by BrentED on 10/21/17 at 10:44 pm
Debating on my RB 2 and Flex. Options include:
Kamara vs GB
Ivory vs Indy
D Henry vs CLE
D Jax vs BUF
J Landry vs NYJ
T Montgomery vs NO
A Jones vs NO
Standard scoring
Kamara vs GB
Ivory vs Indy
D Henry vs CLE
D Jax vs BUF
J Landry vs NYJ
T Montgomery vs NO
A Jones vs NO
Standard scoring
re: Rams or Bills D this week???
Posted by BrentED on 10/19/17 at 8:10 pm to 1ManWolfPack
If you already have both I'd roll with the Bills this week.
re: Garbage RB2 Dilemma: McGuire or Perine?
Posted by BrentED on 10/19/17 at 7:38 pm to lsutigers1992
Perine.
Looks like Forte is back and Powell may be back as well.
I just dropped McGuire for that reason.
Looks like Forte is back and Powell may be back as well.
I just dropped McGuire for that reason.
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