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re: Laura - President Trump visits Lake Charles, Louisiana for Hurricane Response Update

Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:52 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:52 am to
Oh 2020. Just frick off.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:52 am to
That post isn't about 2 storms combining. It is about 2 storms being in the gulf at the same time.

And to answer your questions, no storms won't combine into a bigger storm.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95029 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Wow, a possible Fujiwhara effect in the GOM!!! frick you 2020...


Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147175 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:53 am to
quote:

So... this is actually a serious question... could the systems actually absorb into one another and form a massive storm? Or, would they work like sticking opposite ends of magnets together and push each other away (further east and further west)? How does this work? I don't recall seeing two systems in the smaller gulf next to each other around the same time frame.

ETA: who tf keeps downvoting me? This is actually a serious question. The above post talks about in the past there has only been two occasions where this has happened. But what did the storms do?

weather.gov

quote:

Fujiwhara Effect

When two hurricanes spinning in the same direction pass close enough to each other, they begin an intense dance around their common center. If one hurricane is a lot stronger than the other, the smaller one will orbit it and eventually come crashing into its vortex to be absorbed. Two storms closer in strength can gravitate towards each other until they reach a common point and merge, or merely spin each other around for a while before shooting off on their own paths. But often, the effect is additive when hurricanes come together — we usually end up with one massive storm instead of two smaller ones.

Last week, we saw this rare phenomena happen twice; once between hurricanes Hilary and Irwin in the East Pacific and another between typhoon Noru and tropical storm Kulap in the West Pacific.


Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:54 am to
Painfully waiting on the 12z GFS to get out far enough. Out to 78 hrs now.
Posted by SomethingLikeA
Member since Jul 2013
1232 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:54 am to
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I'm gonna wait for the edit where he changes the 2nd "west" to "wet"


WAP side
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41084 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

That's true... I guess if they were in the gulf at the same time as larger systems, it would be different.


Fujiwhara Effect says they can interact with each other if within about 900 miles. There will be a point when they are within 900 miles of each other, if both move as modeled, but, not for long as likely 14 will make landfall and fall apart.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:57 am to
96 hr on the 12z GFS. Kinds of has TD 13 looking like crap at that point

Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22733 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:57 am to
12z GFS has TD14 in Vermilion Bay at 102 hrs
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:57 am to
102 hrs

This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
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80941 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:58 am to
Would two at the same time cause them to both be weak due to them competing for energy?

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41084 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:58 am to
quote:

96 hr on the 12z GFS. Kinds of has TD 13 looking like crap at that point



Is that 13 or 14 depicted? Why only showing one?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21749 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:59 am to
They become a double ended dildo.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Is that 13 or 14 depicted? Why only showing one?

14 is the one in the Gulf there. 13 is there between FL and Cuba but just doesn't look good at that hour.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22733 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:00 am to
13 is at the southern tip of Florida in that graphic
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:01 am to
108 hrs. TD 13 has made a landfall in FL. TD 14's center sitting just offshore

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:01 am to
quote:

That post isn't about 2 storms combining. It is about 2 storms being in the gulf at the same time.



Right, I understand that. I just was curious what the impact on one, or both storms would be should it play out that way.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16420 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:02 am to
I don’t think there has ever been 2 hurricanes in the gulf at the same time/

Maybe 2 tropical storms or a combo deal with hurricane, tropical storm and maybe a depression but not 2 hurricanes at the same time
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51732 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:03 am to
120 hrs

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11962 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Vermilion Bay


Seems like anytime there is a system in the gulf and landfall could be between brownsville Tx to Bama coast, the GFS has that fricker going right up Vermilion Bay's booty hole
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