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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/9/22 at 1:45 am to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25139 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 1:45 am to
Yep, really wish administers would do something about it. They have the political board but refuse to use it
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:16 am to
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Sure. Why would anyone be okay with trampeling a just movement for self-determination. If Quebec wants to leave Canada, they should be able to. If Texas wants to leave the US, they should have that right


Literally unconstitutional in the USA (Ref: Texas v. White decided in 1869) affirming Abraham Lincoln's view of the Constitution and the right (or lack there of) for individual state to secede.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:46 am to
Just a few observations about Vlads speech, no mobilization, west is to blame for all invasions because it was planning to attack Crimea. It’s really an honor to die in Ukraine because everyone should die in Ukraine. Your great grandfather probably died in Ukraine and you should carry on the tradition of dying in Ukraine at the behest of a complete fricking tool. I wish this wasn’t the speech but this was it. Just some weak sauce half assed attempt at justifying his war. Old people will love the attachment of the present stupidity with an honorable sacrifice made for all humanity in WWII
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105597 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:46 am to
Victory day parade and speech live feed LINK
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:47 am to
What are you doing up Jimmer?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105597 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 3:08 am to
I rarely sleep.

TL,DW, bellicose speech but no declaration of war and no mobilization announcement. Putin did not look or sound infirm. Parade was rather short, no new equipment revealed. Marching bands are one thing Russia does very well. I enjoyed that part, I must confess.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 5:25 am to
LINK


Commander Denys Prokopenko of the Azov Battalion in Mariupol criticizes other Ukrainian regiments that easily allowed the city to be surrounded within days of the wars beginning.
Prokopenko believes Ukrainians should have put up stiffer resistance in the small strip of land that connects Crimea to Ukraine in the Kherson Oblast city of Henichesk.

Zelenskyy fired 2 Generals as "traitors" from the Kherson region around April 1st (Olehovych & Oleksandrovych). Two major bridges & a damn were supposed to be destroyed there , but it didn't happen & the Russians fairly easily advanced in the region.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:36 am to
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west is to blame for all invasions because it was planning to attack Crimea


Anyone have Russian War justification bingo yet? That has got to be at least the 7th or 8th different reason Russia has given for going go war
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8198 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:39 am to
The lack of message discipline shows how morally corrupt the invasion is.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:42 am to
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I'm answering the same questions asked by other people who are actually interested in discussion


No, you're specifically ignoring my questions because you can't answer them and maintain your current point of view without coming off as a massive hypocrite.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:44 am to
Do not engage the creature.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:45 am to
Nah, people like him need to have their nose rubbed in their own hypocritical shite in public so everyone sees them for who they are.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:47 am to
Fair enough. So it sounds like victory day was a big nothingburger.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:53 am to
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Anyone have Russian War justification bingo yet? That has got to be at least the 7th or 8th different reason Russia has given for going go war
Neo nazi regime in Kyiv, genocide in the Donbas, protect Russian speakers (who are ironically suffering the most due to Russian invasion), Nato expansion, NATO & Ukraine planning to invade Russia,


You lose track.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:55 am to
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Neo nazi regime in Kyiv, genocide in the Donbas, protect Russian speakers (who are ironically suffering the most due to Russian invasion), Nato expansion, NATO & Ukraine planning to invade Russia,


You lose track.


Clearly because you forgot at least 2 more

Poland was going to invade Ukraine
US military biolabs in Ukraine
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13180 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:25 am to
Also to cover up Democrat money laundering in Ukraine.
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
223 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:41 am to
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How do you think Russia will escalate? What forces are they going to use? The only way Russia can escalate is by using chemical or nukes. They are short of troops and do not have the manpower to escalate. Any talk of mobilization is a Russian pipe dream that won’t bear fruit for several months. That will be too late.


It’s amazing how willing people are to believe that there’s a “secret playbook” that leaders have been hiding.

We should know
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
75495 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:44 am to
The whereabouts of Judge Crater, Jimmy Hoffa, Amelia Earhart, and JonBenét Ramsey’s killer all are in the discussion as well.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28906 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 8:47 am to
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US military biolabs in Ukraine

Forgot all about the biolabs. That was the rally cry of the Q crowd for the first month of the war.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 9:57 am to
Here is Reuters translation of parts of the speech
LINK

quote:


"Despite disagreements in international relations, Russia has always advocated the creation of a system of equal and indivisible security, a system that is vital for the entire international community.

"In December last year, we proposed the conclusion of an agreement on security guarantees. Russia called on the West to enter an honest dialogue, in search of reasonable compromise solutions, to take each other’s interests into account. It was all in vain."

"NATO countries did not want to listen to us, meaning that they in fact had entirely different plans, and we saw this. Openly, preparations were under way for another punitive operation in Donbas, the invasion of our historical lands, including Crimea.

"In Kyiv, they announced the possible acquisition of nuclear weapons, the NATO bloc began actively taking military control of territories adjacent to ours. As such, an absolutely unacceptable threat to us was systematically created, and moreover directly on our borders.

"Everything indicated that a clash with the neo-Nazis, the Banderites [Ukrainian Nazi sympathisers], backed by the United States and their junior partners, was inevitable."

"We saw military infrastructure being ramped up, hundreds of military advisers working and regular deliveries of modern weapons from NATO. (The level of) danger was increasing every day. Russia preventively rebuffed the aggressor. It was necessary, timely and ... right. The decision of a sovereign, strong, independent country."

"Today, the volunteers of the Donbas, together with the soldiers of the Russian Army, are fighting on their own lands ...

"I am now addressing our Armed Forces and the Donbas volunteers. You are fighting for the Motherland, for its future, so that no one forgets the lessons of the Second World War. So that there is no place in the world for executioners, punishers and Nazis."

"The death of each one of our soldiers and officers is our shared grief and an irreparable loss for their friends and relatives. The state, regions, companies and public organisations will do everything to care for and help these families. We will give special support to the children of dead and wounded comrades. A Presidential Decree on this was signed today."

"The United States, especially after the collapse of the Soviet Union, began talking about its exclusivity, abasing not only the whole world but also its satellites, which have to pretend that they don't see anything and obediently swallow it up. But we are a different country. Russia has a different character. We will never abandon our love for the Motherland, our faith and traditional values, the customs of our ancestors and our respect for all peoples and cultures."

"We know that American veterans who wanted to attend the parade in Moscow were practically barred from doing so. But I want them to know: we are proud of your exploits, your contribution to the common victory."

"We honour all the soldiers of the allied armies – the Americans, the British, the French, the participants in the Resistance and the partisans of China – all those who defeated Nazism and militarism."

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