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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:56 pm to
Telegram (translated)

quote:

channel 24

In Vasylivka, Zaporizhia, the occupiers destroyed sewage treatment plants. Return water from the city now enters the Dnieper River without any treatment.

This was stated in the Zaporozhye regional military administration.


That's shitty.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:04 pm to
This is from half a day ago.

Twitter

quote:

Oliver Carroll
@olliecarroll

Melitopol continues to fight back against occupation and the kidnapping of its mayor. Things likely to take a dark turn but I wouldn’t want to be one of these Russian soldiers.


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

If I rob and bank and am caught I should get to keep the money anyway?
no. Do I get to take it from you and give to whomever I want if I call myself an activist?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:07 pm to
Lots of bombings taking place across Ukraine right now.

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17361 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:11 pm to
USA should announce all aid to India cancelled.

UK should announce all aid to India cancelled.

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17361 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

no. Do I get to take it from you and give to whomever I want if I call myself an activist?



This is democracy in action. The government declared the building was to be seized as it is owned by one of the sanctioned oligarchs, and the people support this declaration but the officials haven't gotten around to actually doing it yet because Oligarchs have them all bought up so these activists are simply enacting the will of the government and the people.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.



Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

USA should announce all aid to India cancelled.

UK should announce all aid to India cancelled.

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.



no but we should threaten them. we need close ties to india and to make them a true ally to take the place of china eventually.

just like we need japan to rearm to balance out china
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22597 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:21 pm to
Hell yeah… like a modern day womens march on Versailles.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:29 pm to
About the Germans not having 2 dozen fighter jets

Reuters - Germany purchasing 35 F35s
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36296 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

USA should announce all aid to India cancelled.

UK should announce all aid to India cancelled.

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.


But why? This is a regional conflict involving two non-NATO members. Why do we need to force ourselves into this and require other non-factor countries to force themselves into it as well?

We are not the world police.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:38 pm to
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But why? This is a regional conflict involving two non-NATO members. Why do we need to force ourselves into this and require other non-factor countries to force themselves into it as well?

We are not the world police.


Further, why would you trade this regional non-NATO conflict for one between India and Pakistan who both have nukes, shitload more people, and less regard for life?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46549 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:38 pm to
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We are not the world police.



The Pakistan bit was over the top, but you do understand cancelling aid to persuade another country to change direction politically is not being "the world police" right?

It's called using soft power to achieve the political outcome you want that is best for your own country.

....and we've been doing it for thousands of years.


Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.


Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:49 pm to
Twitter (translated)

quote:

World Bank: Sanctions on Russia harm the global economy more than the war in Ukraine
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139066 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

USA should announce all aid to India cancelled.

UK should announce all aid to India cancelled.

Both should say all aid is doubled - and sent to Pakistan instead along with a great amount of military equipment.






You know India has been in the process of buying over a million AK's from Russia too, right?
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 1:55 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36484 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:50 pm to
Twitter

quote:

Kylie Atwood
@kylieatwood

NSA Sullivan met Chinese officials today & raised concerns abt “PRC support to Russia in the wake of the invasion & implications that any such support would have" for US-China relations & China's relations w/ the world, per @StateDeptSpox. Doesn't say if support has been shared.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:51 pm to
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It's called using soft power to achieve the political outcome you want that is best for your own country.



Well said.

And lets be clear, the Russians have presented the US and the Eu with an opportunity to set them back decades, with the level of GDP they can put to the military their military may never recover.

The Russians, not us, have taken themselves out of the big 3. And we arent taking our foot off their neck, this opportunity may never come back around.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Well said.

And lets be clear, the Russians have presented the US and the Eu with an opportunity to set them back decades, with the level of GDP they can put to the military their military may never recover.

The Russians, not us, have taken themselves out of the big 3. And we arent taking our foot off their neck, this opportunity may never come back around.



im not sure im following, can you elaborate?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 2:00 pm to
We are using soft power (lots of military aid, sanctions and money) to bleed the Russians dry militarily and economically. And its working AND not one dead American so far.
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