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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:49 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 9:49 am to
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the Germans abandon their constitution to send weapons those are earth shattering moves. Behind the scenes they are preparing for war.
Germans are really good at it btw.

Their air force had 15 combat ready planes in 2019.

Have they hit two dozen yet?
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:09 am to
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Their air force had 15 combat ready planes in 2019.

Have they hit two dozen yet?


So this is what 1930's message boards would have looked like
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:12 am to
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So this is what 1930's message boards would have looked like

The 1941 Wehrmacht ain’t walking through that door anytime soon.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:15 am to
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The warmongers are really pushing the Putin is worse than Hitler take


Aka the single most absurd take on the planet. There was not a single weapon Hitler was sitting on that he didn't/wouldn't have used.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:16 am to
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The 1941 Wehrmacht ain’t walking through that door anytime soon


Do we consider Belarus to be playing the role of Vichy France in this scenario?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:17 am to
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Meanwhile the fricking Chinese are getting ready to bail Russia out. If we let this happen the odds of WW3 starting soon go up 500% at least.
We need to threaten to boycott everything made there now, and by we I mean the free world.



no they fricking arent. its a no win situation for china if they do that and they know that. articles coming out explaining what is happening and why they shouldnt back russia all over in china. those are plant articles, not liek they have free press.

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When the swiss abandon neutrality, and the Germans abandon their constitution to send weapons those are earth shattering moves. Behind the scenes they are preparing for war.
Germans are really good at it btw. They aren’t going to just blow this off anytime soon. We aren’t going back to normal anytime soon.


no the germans are not that good at it. they have some mythical reputation when it isnt deserved. multiple blunders over and over again right after uk and france declared war on them allowed them to take france. only 1 german general even thought they had a chance to win and his plan was the fake out to the north and blitzkreig to the south. it worked because the french ignored all of thier recon and intellegence due to old ways.

and the germans have less than 20 combat ready planes, they dont have the industrial might they once had and have no way of catching up. their military is as laughable as the russians.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38222 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:18 am to
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So this is what 1930's message boards would have looked like



jesus what an uniformed take.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34907 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:28 am to
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I guess gassing Jews in chambers was not a biological weapon


Yeah, I was just about to say, "Zyklon B isn't a chemical weapon?"
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13004 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:29 am to
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There was not a single weapon Hitler was sitting on that he didn't/wouldn't have used.

Well, except chemical weapons. Nazis invented sarin gas.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4682 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:30 am to
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Their ultimate goal is to come out of this strong in a way that helps them - there is not a reality where they can throw enough assets, manpower, or intelligence at Russia to pull them out of this mess. They can, however be position themselves to have a strong say about how Russia gets handled once this is over. I cannot help but think that is what they are most focused on.
I agree. Putin has been shown to be weak and vulnerable, certainly not someone the Chinese choose to support. They will see their opportunity as (best case) controlling the selection of a new Russian leadership, or alternatively, guiding his replacement towards their viewpoint, looking to China as an economic protector during the post-sanction reset. Either way, Russia's days as a major power are over.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:34 am to
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Meanwhile the fricking Chinese are getting ready to bail Russia out.


As of now they aren't. If anything they've been quietly putting a little distance between themselves and Putin.

With the crash of the Ruple Russia might not even be able to afford Chinese weapons.

Also consider that China is still going with a "Covid-zero" approach and dealing with an active outbreak. They are going to be very hesitant to do any of the International travel, or even letting the Russians in, that would be needed to actually support the act of transferring equipment.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:56 am to
@olliecarrol
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Melitopol continues to fight back against occupation and the kidnapping of its mayor. Things likely to take a dark turn but I wouldn’t want to be one of these Russian soldiers. LINK


We are eventually going to see Russians firing on unarmed protesters in one of these occupied cities. When that happens, don't be surprised when the "NATO must do something!" ramps up to a fever pitch.

Video at the link shows protesters getting handsy with some Russian troops.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:00 am to
Hey, even the local homeless meth heads are getting in on the Russian sanctions:

@phildstewart
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(Reuters) - Police in riot gear moved in to evict squatters who had occupied a London mansion suspected of belonging to Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, who was placed on Britain's sanctions list last week in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:01 am to
@phildstewart
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(Reuters) - A convoy of over 160 cars left Mariupol on Monday, local officials said, in what appeared to be the first successful attempt to arrange a "humanitarian corridor" to evacuate civilians from the encircled Ukrainian city.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2417 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:03 am to
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Trump was Putin’s puppet.


If this was the case Putin would have invaded Ukraine while Trump was in office?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:03 am to
Russia backtracking after being left on read by china?

@phildstewart
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(Reuters) - Russia has not asked China for military assistance and has sufficient military capability to fulfil all of its aims in Ukraine in time and in full, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.


quote:

(Reuters) - The Kremlin said on Monday that Russian forces could take full control of major Ukrainian cities and it had sufficient military clout to fulfil all of its aims in Ukraine without any help from China.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32843 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:05 am to
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@JackDetsch
NEW: The U.S. assesses that "almost all" of Russian military advances in Ukraine remain stalled, including stiff resistance against advances outside of Kyiv and Kharkiv, the country's two-largest cities: senior U.S. defense official


What is happening here? Strategic pause?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:06 am to
This comrade is going to need a new pair of underwear and a shot of vodka:

@RALee85
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Video of a Russian Su-25 attack aircraft that managed to make it back to its airbase after being struck by a MANPADS in Ukraine.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:16 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:08 am to
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What is happening here? Strategic pause?


The pause has coincided with a ramp up in bombings. Probably a little of both, stall and strategy.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105534 posts
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:08 am to
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Russia’s unprovoked war on Ukraine is now entering its third week and the much-anticipated fall of Kyiv, estimated by various Western officials last month to be likely within the space of about 72 hours, has not yet occurred. Nor has Russia managed to sack any major population center. The one city it “holds,” the provincial capital of Kherson, is restive: Ukrainians turn out daily to protest their armed occupiers, and now fresh reports are trickling in of mass arrests of civilians and anyone thought to have been associated with Ukrainian authorities.

One country in Europe has been bolder in making projections that this war will not end in Putin’s favor: Estonia, for which Russia has historically been the overriding national security and military preoccupation at all levels of government. On Feb. 28, Mikk Marran, the head of Välisluureamet, Estonia’s foreign intelligence service, told New Lines that he didn’t believe Putin could “keep up an intensive war for more than two months” and that ultimately “Russia will not win this war.”

A senior Estonian analyst with years of experience tracking Russia’s military affairs concurs with that assessment but doesn’t even think it’ll take another two months to bear fruit — it already is doing so.

As this source asked to remain anonymous, we will refer to him as “Karl.”

“If Russia does not achieve a remarkable advance by the end of this week, it is difficult to see how [the advance] should come at all,” Karl said late this week.
Lots more in the article on the state of the Russian army in the field. Worth reading LINK
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