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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:40 pm to No Colors
Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:40 pm to No Colors
ISW Update June 22 2025
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Key Takeaways:
Russia condemned the recent US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on June 22 amid reports that Iran's foreign minister will meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on June 23.
Iran's possible decision to close the Strait of Hormuz will cause a significant spike in global oil prices, which would greatly economically and financially benefit Russia by reversing months of declining Russian oil revenue and allowing Russia to continue to finance its war against Ukraine in the medium term.
Russian forces have continued to pursue long-standing operational objectives on the battlefield in Ukraine throughout Spring and Summer 2025 and will likely remain committed to these objectives for the coming months.
Russia's intensified force generation efforts appear to be generating a reserve force that Russia will be able to leverage in Ukraine or against NATO in the future, despite current limitations on Russia's offensive capacity in Ukraine.
The Kremlin continues to promote rhetoric designed to undermine Ukrainian legitimacy and sovereignty, demonstrating its steadfast commitment to the complete destruction of Ukraine.
Kremlin officials are leveraging the Russian education system to indoctrinate children into the mythos of the Soviet Union's role in the Second World War and create a centralized state ideology that will shape generations in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukraine, likely to justify a protracted war in Ukraine and a future military conflict against the West.
Ukrainian forces advanced in northern Sumy oblast. Russian forces advanced near Novopavlivka.
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:49 pm to StormyMcMan
Tick toc tick toc Putin time is running out
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:08 pm to TutHillTiger
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Tick toc tick toc Putin time is running out
Having between 1000 to 1500 casualties per day is really not good for morale but they keep doing the same stupid things.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:21 pm to StormyMcMan
One of the clearer battles, but this one with a large Russian assault force. Looks to me like armor needs a force of drone fighters to fend off enemy drones and recon.
This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:04 pm to VolSquatch
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Just saw an old thread started by JB on the first page of the OT so I clicked his profile. Says he's online.
When your account gets suspended, you can still log in but you don't have the ability to post, comment, vote, etc.
If he and PoopedToilet or whateverhisnamewas did get suspended, I think it was probably people over at the Poli board who they rubbed the wrong way rather than here.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:09 pm to Auburn1968
What is so amazing is that despite losing all those tanks and all that armor JB says no one gets killed.
Posted on 6/22/25 at 9:58 pm to Auburn1968
Whenever I see videos, I wish they would state when the action occurred...
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:50 am to cypher
Russian drone and missile attacks kill at least 13, injure 57 across Ukraine over past day
by Anna Fratsyvir June 23, 2025 11:18 AM
Russian attacks have killed at least 13 civilians and injured 57 across multiple oblasts over the past day, Ukrainian officials reported on June 23.
According to the Ukrainian Air Force, Russia deployed 368 aerial weapons, including 352 attack drones, 11 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles, and 5 Iskander-K cruise missiles, striking primarily Kyiv. Ukraine's air defenses destroyed 354 of them.
In Kyiv Oblast, Governor Mykola Kalashnyk said a person was killed in Bilotserkivka district, two were hospitalized, and two others received on-site medical aid. Attacks damaged houses in three districts: Boryspil, Bila Tserkva, where a medical facility in a hotel was destroyed, and Bucha, damaging several houses and vehicles.
In Kyiv city, Mayor Vitali Klitschko and Kalashnyk reported 6 killed and 25 injured, including a pregnant woman and a child rescued from a damaged 25-story building in the Shevchenkivskyi district.
In Kherson Oblast, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said Russian drone, artillery, and air attacks hit numerous settlements, including Kherson city. Infrastructure damage included seven apartment buildings, 14 houses, a gas pipeline, a garage, and vehicles. One person was killed, and six were wounded. Early June 22, three more people were injured across the oblast.
In Donetsk Oblast, Governor Vadym Filashkin reported that a Russian attack killed two residents in Siversk and Myrne, with five more wounded. The numbers exclude casualties in occupied Mariupol and Volnovakha.
In Chernihiv Oblast, Russian missile and drone strikes killed at least three people and injured 11 others, including four teenagers, Governor Viacheslav Chaus said. The attacks damaged houses, businesses, and infrastructure across multiple districts, including Chernihiv, Nizhyn, Pryluky, Korukivka, and Novhorod-Siverskyi.
The Kyiv Independent
by Anna Fratsyvir June 23, 2025 11:18 AM
Russian attacks have killed at least 13 civilians and injured 57 across multiple oblasts over the past day, Ukrainian officials reported on June 23.
According to the Ukrainian Air Force, Russia deployed 368 aerial weapons, including 352 attack drones, 11 Iskander-M/KN-23 ballistic missiles, and 5 Iskander-K cruise missiles, striking primarily Kyiv. Ukraine's air defenses destroyed 354 of them.
In Kyiv Oblast, Governor Mykola Kalashnyk said a person was killed in Bilotserkivka district, two were hospitalized, and two others received on-site medical aid. Attacks damaged houses in three districts: Boryspil, Bila Tserkva, where a medical facility in a hotel was destroyed, and Bucha, damaging several houses and vehicles.
In Kyiv city, Mayor Vitali Klitschko and Kalashnyk reported 6 killed and 25 injured, including a pregnant woman and a child rescued from a damaged 25-story building in the Shevchenkivskyi district.
In Kherson Oblast, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said Russian drone, artillery, and air attacks hit numerous settlements, including Kherson city. Infrastructure damage included seven apartment buildings, 14 houses, a gas pipeline, a garage, and vehicles. One person was killed, and six were wounded. Early June 22, three more people were injured across the oblast.
In Donetsk Oblast, Governor Vadym Filashkin reported that a Russian attack killed two residents in Siversk and Myrne, with five more wounded. The numbers exclude casualties in occupied Mariupol and Volnovakha.
In Chernihiv Oblast, Russian missile and drone strikes killed at least three people and injured 11 others, including four teenagers, Governor Viacheslav Chaus said. The attacks damaged houses, businesses, and infrastructure across multiple districts, including Chernihiv, Nizhyn, Pryluky, Korukivka, and Novhorod-Siverskyi.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 6/23/25 at 6:01 am to cypher
Russia kills at least 6 in Kyiv as missiles, drones hit residential areas
June 23, 2025, 03:03 AM
PhotoStory
Photos of the aftermath, published by Reuters, show damage from what Ukrainian officials described as a combined attack involving ballistic missiles and drones.
The New Voice of Ukraine
June 23, 2025, 03:03 AM
PhotoStory
Photos of the aftermath, published by Reuters, show damage from what Ukrainian officials described as a combined attack involving ballistic missiles and drones.
The New Voice of Ukraine
Posted on 6/23/25 at 7:29 am to doubleb
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What is so amazing is that despite losing all those tanks and all that armor JB says no one gets killed
Notice that it's not just JB. There was a handful of Putin cheerleaders on here the past couple of years celebrating every village and cross roads captured the vaunted Red Army.
Russia is advancing
The front is collapsing
Ukraine running out of men
No reason for Russia to negotiate while they're winning
Trump will cut off the gear and they'll be forced to capitulate
Ukraine needs to surrender while they still have a country left to negotiate with
All of those voices are pretty much gone.
They've come to the realization that Putin cant quit. He demands that Ukraine demilitarize, when they have the third largest military in Europe. And it's growing.
His economy and his power structure are built around this war. He's going to prosecute it until he's dead. He doesn't have a choice.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 7:37 am to Lee B
I have noticed that since JB went silent so did Pooped Riser. Given Poop's vehement defense of anything JB spewed out, it feels like more evidence that it was just a JB alter, or coworker.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:50 am to Chromdome35
Free John Barron!
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:52 am to Lee B
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If he and PoopedToilet or whateverhisnamewas did get suspended, I think it was probably people over at the Poli board who they rubbed the wrong way rather than here
John Barron is beloved on the Poli Board. He was honoured with our prestigious "Poster of the Year" award after the 2024 elections. A great Patriot.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:58 am to No Colors
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Russia is advancing
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Ukraine running out of men
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No reason for Russia to negotiate while they're winning
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Ukraine needs to surrender while they still have a country left to negotiate with
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He demands that Ukraine demilitarize, when they have the third largest military in Europe. And it's growing.
His economy and his power structure are built around this war. He's going to prosecute it until he's dead. He doesn't have a choice.
All of those can coexist and be true.
I think Russian state media is quite good at what they do (lying) so they could sell even just holding what they currently have as a win, so I don't personally buy the "he can't quit" thing. But its certainly possible.
But lets say it is the truth.... I think a lot of people have a mental block around the fact that someone might not have any other option than to continue doing what they are doing, but that it also might still work out for them regardless. The long term cost in that scenario would be the issue.
And despite all of thier issues, blunders, and ineptitude, I haven't seen a single credible person try to make the case that Ukraine is winning, or even that they can win long term given current trajectories. Now if Ukraine can consistently do what they did to Russia's bomber fleet to multiple aspects of their economy and military, that trajectory can be altered. But it can be a one off, they have to keep doing it.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 9:59 am to Chromdome35
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I have noticed that since JB went silent so did Pooped Riser. Given Poop's vehement defense of anything JB spewed out, it feels like more evidence that it was just a JB alter, or coworker.
Maybe JB is just really into Juneteenth and hasn't stopped celebrating
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:11 am to SirWinston
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John Barron is beloved on the Poli Board
Not by all. Many on the PB complained about him about his stances regarding China, etc.
JB had worn out his welcome on the PB with a lot of folks.
He didn't bother me. I always knew his mission and laughed about it.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:29 am to VolSquatch
I don't repost stuff here that just seems TOO "Ukraine is winning!!!" But it's out there... and some of it does not seem like nonsense.
Russia is fighting a War of Attrition (the only kind of hot it war it knows how to fight).
Ukraine can't fight that war... so they aren't, and never have been from the start.
Bottom line: it will take Russia forever to conquer "all of Ukraine," and then they will have to occupy it forever after that militarily... if the Ukrainians would accept being a rump state, they would've in 2012, and none of this would've happened. Unless Putin plans on exterminating the Ukrainian population, he's stuck in another Afghanistan. And while he's tied up in that he loses Georgia or the -Stans start turning away (look at Kazakhstan right at this moment). When Russia "takes" territory, they've reduced it to only rubble and in the process lost lots of men and machinery... which makes it useless, so it's a series of Pyrrhic victories and those supply lines get longer and longer and more vulnerable.
So, Russia is "winning" incremental lines on a map and destroying civilian buildings. Those missiles and even Shahed drones are expensive for attacks that don't diminish Ukraine's military, and don't seem to be making its civilians demand the government surrender to Putin.
Ukraine is "winning" with strategic blows to Russia's ability to wage the war and its overall economy, and in exacting heavy casualties and costs for every inch taken... and if the West was not still holding it back some from going full out on REALLY destroying the Russian oil and natural gas infrastructure, they'd be doing even more damage.
The metaphor a Russian ex-pat used was "A Sumo wrestler fighting a small child who is a black belt in Martial Arts. Who do you bet your money on in that match-up? The child would be smarter than to try to grapple with the Sumo wrestler. That would be suicidal. So he lets him wear himself out charging at him, and strikes pressure points when he can. It's over when the Sumo wrestler is exhausted and collapses, which he will be long before the child. Russia went through this in Afghanistan, just as the US had gone through it in Vietnam."
Ukraine's offensive a few summers ago was something the Pentagon pushed/rushed them into because "lines on a map" are what WE value in showing some success. We're a Sumo Wrestler, ourselves... and a hardheaded one, but hopefully we're learning something from this...
Russia is fighting a War of Attrition (the only kind of hot it war it knows how to fight).
Ukraine can't fight that war... so they aren't, and never have been from the start.
Bottom line: it will take Russia forever to conquer "all of Ukraine," and then they will have to occupy it forever after that militarily... if the Ukrainians would accept being a rump state, they would've in 2012, and none of this would've happened. Unless Putin plans on exterminating the Ukrainian population, he's stuck in another Afghanistan. And while he's tied up in that he loses Georgia or the -Stans start turning away (look at Kazakhstan right at this moment). When Russia "takes" territory, they've reduced it to only rubble and in the process lost lots of men and machinery... which makes it useless, so it's a series of Pyrrhic victories and those supply lines get longer and longer and more vulnerable.
So, Russia is "winning" incremental lines on a map and destroying civilian buildings. Those missiles and even Shahed drones are expensive for attacks that don't diminish Ukraine's military, and don't seem to be making its civilians demand the government surrender to Putin.
Ukraine is "winning" with strategic blows to Russia's ability to wage the war and its overall economy, and in exacting heavy casualties and costs for every inch taken... and if the West was not still holding it back some from going full out on REALLY destroying the Russian oil and natural gas infrastructure, they'd be doing even more damage.
The metaphor a Russian ex-pat used was "A Sumo wrestler fighting a small child who is a black belt in Martial Arts. Who do you bet your money on in that match-up? The child would be smarter than to try to grapple with the Sumo wrestler. That would be suicidal. So he lets him wear himself out charging at him, and strikes pressure points when he can. It's over when the Sumo wrestler is exhausted and collapses, which he will be long before the child. Russia went through this in Afghanistan, just as the US had gone through it in Vietnam."
Ukraine's offensive a few summers ago was something the Pentagon pushed/rushed them into because "lines on a map" are what WE value in showing some success. We're a Sumo Wrestler, ourselves... and a hardheaded one, but hopefully we're learning something from this...
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 11:36 am
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:38 am to VolSquatch
What you and a lot of others miss is there are degrees of the truth.
As far as winning, think about WWI. Yes the allies won and the Central powers lost; but what did England and France really win.
Millions of their young men died, billions of dollars went into the war instead of their homelands, and twenty years later they were fighting for survival,
Sure Russia is winning, but look at the costs. What will the future hold as a result?
As far as winning, think about WWI. Yes the allies won and the Central powers lost; but what did England and France really win.
Millions of their young men died, billions of dollars went into the war instead of their homelands, and twenty years later they were fighting for survival,
Sure Russia is winning, but look at the costs. What will the future hold as a result?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:39 am to cypher
Odesa region terrorism update. June 23, 15:11
Ballistic missile destroyed a lyceum (high school).
A destroyed lyceum in Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi, Odessa region, as a result of a Russian attack. June 23, 2025. Odessa Region State Emergency Service/Facebook
The Russian army attacked the city of Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi in the Odessa region with ballistic missiles . The attack killed two people and injured 14 others.
This was announced by the head of the Odessa Oblast Autonomous Region, Oleg Kiper.
According to him, the Russians destroyed a local educational institution. There may be people under the rubble - adult teaching staff. There were no children in the institution because of the summer holidays.
Ballistic missile destroyed a lyceum (high school).
A destroyed lyceum in Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi, Odessa region, as a result of a Russian attack. June 23, 2025. Odessa Region State Emergency Service/Facebook
The Russian army attacked the city of Bilhorod-Dnistrovskyi in the Odessa region with ballistic missiles . The attack killed two people and injured 14 others.
This was announced by the head of the Odessa Oblast Autonomous Region, Oleg Kiper.
According to him, the Russians destroyed a local educational institution. There may be people under the rubble - adult teaching staff. There were no children in the institution because of the summer holidays.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/23/25 at 11:41 am to Lee B
BTW, I will say this about Iran.
My view of Trump is that he has the sensibilities of a bully. Of course he couldn't resist attacking Iran when it had been proven they're completely defenseless to air attacks.
What he has done with this, though, is embarrass Putin... being an ally of Putin does not shield you from attacks on this scale. Paired with the outcome in Syria, that makes Putin look weak... and that's probably going to bring some disproportionate response somewhere to keep people INSIDE the Russian sphere in line.
My view of Trump is that he has the sensibilities of a bully. Of course he couldn't resist attacking Iran when it had been proven they're completely defenseless to air attacks.
What he has done with this, though, is embarrass Putin... being an ally of Putin does not shield you from attacks on this scale. Paired with the outcome in Syria, that makes Putin look weak... and that's probably going to bring some disproportionate response somewhere to keep people INSIDE the Russian sphere in line.
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