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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:33 am to CitizenK
Posted on 6/13/25 at 3:33 am to CitizenK
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To be certain, X has a lot of ignorant posts on it from the like of Tucker the Stupid Phucker, Mike Benz, etc... who have zero clue and no experience in the matter
Which compromise the accuracy of data compilers, something that enhances misinformation. As the Russians well know.
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:12 am to Coeur du Tigre
Aviation fuel depot at Engels is still burning after seven days.
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A fire is reported at the "Kry Stal" oil depot in Engels, Russia. Local groups say another fuel tank is burning, with smoke covering the city. The plant stores various fuels, including aviation fuel for Engels' military infrastructure and Russia’s long-range aviation. This is the third strike this year.
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:39 am to cypher
more russian lies debunked.
SPRAVDI — Stratcom Centre
@StratcomCentre
Rusian Lie: “400,000 fighters are considered missing in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.”
That’s the claim being spread by Russian state outlet RIA Novosti, citing a distorted quote from a former Ukrainian official.
Reality: The number mentioned refers to total inquiries made to the Red Cross—not missing soldiers. And it includes civilians from temporarily occupied territories, not just military personnel.
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) confirmed: over 116,000 requests have been submitted by both Ukrainian and Russian families, covering a wide range of cases.
Andriy Yusov, Deputy Head of Ukraine’s Coordination Headquarters for the Treatment of Prisoners of War, called the Russian spin “completely incorrect or deliberately manipulative.”
He added: “Ukraine knows the real numbers, and they are many times smaller. The ICRC has once again become a propaganda tool for Russian murderers.”
Russia lies. Ukraine tracks its people.
SPRAVDI — Stratcom Centre
@StratcomCentre
Rusian Lie: “400,000 fighters are considered missing in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.”
That’s the claim being spread by Russian state outlet RIA Novosti, citing a distorted quote from a former Ukrainian official.
Reality: The number mentioned refers to total inquiries made to the Red Cross—not missing soldiers. And it includes civilians from temporarily occupied territories, not just military personnel.
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) confirmed: over 116,000 requests have been submitted by both Ukrainian and Russian families, covering a wide range of cases.
Andriy Yusov, Deputy Head of Ukraine’s Coordination Headquarters for the Treatment of Prisoners of War, called the Russian spin “completely incorrect or deliberately manipulative.”
He added: “Ukraine knows the real numbers, and they are many times smaller. The ICRC has once again become a propaganda tool for Russian murderers.”
Russia lies. Ukraine tracks its people.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 4:54 am to cypher
Russian Airstrikes Hit Chernihiv and Kharkiv Region, Killing One Person and Injuring Seven
Jun 13, 2025 11:41
The aftermath of the Russian attack on Zolochiv, the Kharkiv region, Ukraine, on June 13, 2025. (Source: State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region)
Russian forces attacked a Ukrainian border village in the Novhorod-Siverskyi district of the Chernihiv region on the evening of June 12. A 46-year-old local resident was killed in the strike, which was carried out using an FPV drone.
This was reported by Viacheslav Chaus, Head of the Chernihiv Regional Military Administration.
Earlier the same day, the village of Zolochiv in the Bohodukhiv district came under Russian airstrikes. An aerial bomb strike partially destroyed two residential houses and several outbuildings.
The aftermath of the Russian attack on Zolochiv, the Kharkiv region, Ukraine, on June 13, 2025. (Source: State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region)
A woman and her 11-year-old son were trapped beneath the rubble of a collapsed cellar. Emergency service workers, together with police officers, managed to extract them and hand them over to medics.
Overall, over the past 24 hours, seven settlements in the Kharkiv region came under Russian attack. Seven civilians were injured, including one child.
On June 12, Russian forces launched a wave of drones on Kharkiv overnight, igniting multiple fires and injuring at least 15 people, including four children—a 2-year-old boy and three girls aged 12, 16, and 17.
United24
Jun 13, 2025 11:41
The aftermath of the Russian attack on Zolochiv, the Kharkiv region, Ukraine, on June 13, 2025. (Source: State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region)
Russian forces attacked a Ukrainian border village in the Novhorod-Siverskyi district of the Chernihiv region on the evening of June 12. A 46-year-old local resident was killed in the strike, which was carried out using an FPV drone.
This was reported by Viacheslav Chaus, Head of the Chernihiv Regional Military Administration.
Earlier the same day, the village of Zolochiv in the Bohodukhiv district came under Russian airstrikes. An aerial bomb strike partially destroyed two residential houses and several outbuildings.
The aftermath of the Russian attack on Zolochiv, the Kharkiv region, Ukraine, on June 13, 2025. (Source: State Emergency Service of Ukraine in the Kharkiv region)
A woman and her 11-year-old son were trapped beneath the rubble of a collapsed cellar. Emergency service workers, together with police officers, managed to extract them and hand them over to medics.
Overall, over the past 24 hours, seven settlements in the Kharkiv region came under Russian attack. Seven civilians were injured, including one child.
On June 12, Russian forces launched a wave of drones on Kharkiv overnight, igniting multiple fires and injuring at least 15 people, including four children—a 2-year-old boy and three girls aged 12, 16, and 17.
United24
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:19 am to cypher
Then post a picture of it.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 6:20 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:21 am to John Barron
If you posted something sourced by "a business associate" you would get (rightfully) dragged for it.
But if it reinforces their world view they are all for it.
Kind of sad, really.
But if it reinforces their world view they are all for it.
Kind of sad, really.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:23 am to doubleb
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How about Chrome ask Grok. He does a great job.
Well at this point it's not about the information itself, I have credibility issues with both of these posters so they could just provide proof and help their own cases. The argument has become more about credibility than the information itself kind of like the thread as a whole almost half the time now.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 6:26 am
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:33 am to VolSquatch
I'll jump on this trend
ChatGPT
ChatGPT
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What is the breakeven price for a barrel of oil in Russia.
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?? 1. Production Breakeven (Cost of extraction)
According to IIF (Institute of International Finance), Russia’s production breakeven—the cost to extract a barrel of oil—is approximately $41–44/barrel .
Other expert estimates similarly cite $42–47/barrel, significantly higher than in Middle Eastern producers but below some others
?? 2. Fiscal Breakeven (Budget balance)
This is the oil price needed to balance the federal budget:
Historical estimates: ~$62 (2021), rising to $94 (2024) .
IIF estimates that Russia could reach budget balance in 2025 at this production cost, implying around $44/barrel once accounting for reduced spending .
Russia’s 2025 budget assumed Urals at $54–60), prompting deficits .
?? 3. External Breakeven (Current account balance)
.The oil price required to stabilize Russia’s balance of payments:
IIF notes an external breakeven of around $77/barrel .
? Summary Table
Break-even TypeDescriptionApprox. PriceProduction CostCost to extract 1 barrel$41–47
Fiscal/BudgetNeeded to balance federal budget$44–70*
ExternalTo balance current account / FX inflows~$77
* The fiscal breakeven varies: recent estimates suggest ~$44 by 2025 under revised spending assumptions, though pre-wartime logic pegged it near $70.
Why such variation?
Higher fiscal/external breakevens reflect additional layers: transportation, insurance, subsidies, taxes, military spending, and projected budget needs.
Current market conditions (discounts on Urals crude and sanctions pressures) result in revenues below assumed budget levels, forcing Moscow to tap reserves or run deficits.
?? So what's the headline breakeven?
Extraction cost: ~$41–47
True fiscal breakeven today: closer to $60–70, depending on budget policy and revenue assumptions.
External/currency stability: needs ~$77.
In short: while it only costs Russia around $42/barrel to extract oil, the real oil price needed to balance its 2025 budget sits at roughly $60–70/barrel, and to avoid draining its foreign reserves, it needs exports to fetch around $77/barrel.
Let me know if you'd like a deeper dive into any of these categories!
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:57 am to cypher
Russia condemns Israel's strike on Iran as 'unprovoked aggression'
by Anna Fratsyvir June 13, 2025 1:16 PM (Updated: June 13, 2025 2:32 PM)
Editor's note: This story was updated to include a comment from Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Heorhii Tykhyi.
Russia's Foreign Ministry expressed "extreme concern" on June 13 over Israel's recent strike on Iran, calling it a dangerous escalation that violated the United Nations Charter and international law.
Moscow, which currently wages war against Ukraine, the largest conflict on the European continent since World War II, condemned Israel's attack as an "unprovoked aggression."
Earlier on June 13, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israeli forces had launched "Operation Rising Lion," a preemptive strike targeting Iran's nuclear program. In a televised address, Netanyahu claimed Israeli forces struck Iran's main nuclear enrichment site in Natanz and targeted key nuclear scientists.
In a statement, the Russian Foreign Ministry denounced Israel's overnight attacks as "unprovoked military strikes" targeting a sovereign U.N. member's nuclear facilities. The ministry said the international community "cannot remain indifferent" to such actions that undermine global and regional stability.
The statement called it "cynical" that the strikes occurred during a session of the International Atomic Energy Agency and just before another round of indirect Iran–U.S. talks in Oman, scheduled for June 15.
Moscow said this timing undermined diplomatic efforts aimed at reducing confrontations over Tehran's nuclear program.
The ministry accused Western countries of fueling "anti-Iranian hysteria" in international forums and warned that military solutions cannot resolve the Iranian nuclear issue. It urged all parties to show restraint to avoid a full-scale regional war.
Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Heorhii Tykhyi responded to Russia's statement, saying it was "one of those awkward moments when the Russian Foreign Ministry comments on the Middle East but forgets to look at the mirror."
The Kyiv Independent
by Anna Fratsyvir June 13, 2025 1:16 PM (Updated: June 13, 2025 2:32 PM)
Editor's note: This story was updated to include a comment from Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Heorhii Tykhyi.
Russia's Foreign Ministry expressed "extreme concern" on June 13 over Israel's recent strike on Iran, calling it a dangerous escalation that violated the United Nations Charter and international law.
Moscow, which currently wages war against Ukraine, the largest conflict on the European continent since World War II, condemned Israel's attack as an "unprovoked aggression."
Earlier on June 13, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israeli forces had launched "Operation Rising Lion," a preemptive strike targeting Iran's nuclear program. In a televised address, Netanyahu claimed Israeli forces struck Iran's main nuclear enrichment site in Natanz and targeted key nuclear scientists.
In a statement, the Russian Foreign Ministry denounced Israel's overnight attacks as "unprovoked military strikes" targeting a sovereign U.N. member's nuclear facilities. The ministry said the international community "cannot remain indifferent" to such actions that undermine global and regional stability.
The statement called it "cynical" that the strikes occurred during a session of the International Atomic Energy Agency and just before another round of indirect Iran–U.S. talks in Oman, scheduled for June 15.
Moscow said this timing undermined diplomatic efforts aimed at reducing confrontations over Tehran's nuclear program.
The ministry accused Western countries of fueling "anti-Iranian hysteria" in international forums and warned that military solutions cannot resolve the Iranian nuclear issue. It urged all parties to show restraint to avoid a full-scale regional war.
Ukrainian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Heorhii Tykhyi responded to Russia's statement, saying it was "one of those awkward moments when the Russian Foreign Ministry comments on the Middle East but forgets to look at the mirror."
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:17 am to VolSquatch
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Well at this point it's not about the information itself, I have credibility issues with both of these posters so they could just provide proof and help their own cases. The argument has become more about credibility than the information itself kind of like the thread as a whole almost half the time now.
As the self anointed arbiter of credibility, why don't you do it
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:01 am to MoarKilometers
I'm not the arbiter of anything, it's just extremely easy for cypher to post a screenshot and for JB to answer a simple question.
Interesting how "back up what you say" is only controversial when someone with a Ukraine slant is asked to do it ...
Interesting how "back up what you say" is only controversial when someone with a Ukraine slant is asked to do it ...
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:03 am to VolSquatch
I’d like to know at what price does Russia need to sell a barrel of oil to break even.
I’m a businessman and I know the difference between bringing in revenue and bringing in profit, but at the end of the day if your revenues do not exceed the cost of doing business you are spinning your wheels.
I’m a businessman and I know the difference between bringing in revenue and bringing in profit, but at the end of the day if your revenues do not exceed the cost of doing business you are spinning your wheels.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:05 am to cypher
I am stunned by the difference in Russia’s initial air operations versus Ukraine and Israel’s initial air operations against Iran.
All I can say is wow.
All I can say is wow.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:11 am to doubleb
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I’d like to know at what price does Russia need to sell a barrel of oil to break even.
I’m a businessman and I know the difference between bringing in revenue and bringing in profit, but at the end of the day if your revenues do not exceed the cost of doing business you are spinning your wheels.
I think its interesting too and helps build a view of how things might go with this conflict going forward.
But I'd also like to know how honest two posters who absolutely flood this thread with what I think is mostly bullcrap at best and propaganda at worst are, and this is a chance to get some context on that.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:27 am to StormyMcMan
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Let me know if you'd like a deeper dive into any of these categories!
Good post. You provided the question and unedited answer.
Now where's the screenshot?
kidding...
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:29 am to VolSquatch
Might have to order one of these
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:30 am to cypher
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Now where's the screenshot?
So you will understand:
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Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:31 am to VolSquatch
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But I'd also like to know how honest two posters who absolutely flood this thread with what I think is mostly bullcrap at best and propaganda at worst are, and this is a chance to get some context on that.
Are you serious? I posted the exact screenshot question and full answer from Grok of what a Barrel of Oil cost in Russia to produce which is $15. Cypher refused to post his screenshots and CitizenK told us his source was "a business associate from Gazprom"
Then CitizenK started talking about "Fiscal Breakeven" price which has nothing to do with the Production cost of a barrel of oil.
Common Sense would tell you If the "Breakeven" price was $50-$70 like these clowns are claiming then Russia would not be able to fund a 3.5 year War against NATO and the $300 billion given to Ukraine in Aid and Weapons.
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:32 am to John Barron
You've certainly provided more that Cypher has been willing to
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:38 am to VolSquatch
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You've certainly provided more that Cypher has been willing to
I provided everything I possibly could. The screenshot of the exact question and full answer. They keep trying to use "Breakeven" price now because that has to do with the Russian Fiscal Budget but nothing to do with what the production of a barrel of Oil cost. Like I said previously, if the "Breakeven" price was $50-$70 per Barrel Russia would of been bankrupt after 2 years of fighting this War
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