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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:13 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:13 am to
Peskov kind of looks like a younger Uncle Lewis from Christmas Vacation
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:45 am to
[quote]You told us it was already over six months ago....and that the Ukraine front was collapsing....and that Russia was breaking through....and that Trump was gonna cut off the weapons..../[quote]

Fixed it again
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 7:57 am to
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How many dead are enough, how many? hamas of the west, zelensky, needs to end this.


You insane dipshit, it isn't his decision to make alone. Unless, of course, you mean capitulation. Which we both know you do. You are a retarded ghoul.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:12 am to
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it isn't his decision to make alone. Unless, of course, you mean capitulation.


Ultimately the argument comes down to whether or not you think Russia will eventually break through or not.

I don't think Ukraine can hold on forever. Everything that has been supposed to make a huge difference for Ukraine or swing the war in their favor hasn't thus far. So to me the the issue becomes "capitulate now or don't exist later", and the answer in that scenario is pretty simple.

For all the talk about posters calling for a Ukrainian demise that hasn't come yet, we've had PLENTY of talk about a Russian one (mostly economic) that also hasn't come. I think people are still clinging to economic trends from a year or two ago saying that Russia can't sustain this, and ignoring that they've built up a wartime economy that has changed the calculus.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:22 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:31 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:39 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:17 am to
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New anti- Shahed weapon being developed by Ukraine. AI-Powered Turret That Hunts Russian Missiles and Drones? Meet Sky Sentinel Ukraine’s New Air Defense

Very nice.
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What makes the system especially clever is its use of standard heavy machine guns with conventional bullets—no guided munitions involved. Every shot lands thanks to precise, real-time ballistic calculations All the software that makes this possible? Written entirely by Ukrainian engineers.

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Each unit costs around $150,000. Effectively protecting a city would require 10 to 30 turrets, which is still cheaper than a single interceptor missile from many traditional air defense systems. And with each Shahed-136 estimated to cost about $100,000, Sky Sentinel offers a cost-effective answer to a relentless threat.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:30 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 9:49 am to
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Stroivka
Village
Stroivka is located in Kharkiv OblastStroivkaStroivka
Country Ukraine Oblast
Kharkiv Oblast Raion Kupiansk Raion Population (2001) • Total 31
Postal code 62712


Well it does have a zip code.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:15 am to
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So to me the the issue becomes "capitulate now or don't exist later", and the answer in that scenario is pretty simple


That is the same thing, as capitulation now would be a very poor negotiating position.

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 think people are still clinging to economic trends from a year or two ago saying that Russia can't sustain this, and ignoring that they've built up a wartime economy that has changed the calculus


None of that matters with respect to Russian goals unless they actually win in a massive way on the battlefield. They have parts of four oblasts now but they want far more. We've seen that economies can be resilient to sanctions, but Russia has to produce meaningful gains, which hasn't occurred in at least two years. Again, if the idea of Ukrainian capitulation rests on the West losing interest in Ukraine, that's a terrible position to be in, even in a wartime economy.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:25 am to
"So to me the the issue becomes 'capitulate now or don't exist later', and the answer in that scenario is pretty simple"

Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:40 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:46 am to
I think Russia propaganda is trying to sell that because they have not realized the gains expected. They are trying to discourage the West as well.

The fact is Ukraine is not collapsing and they aren’t as desperate as the Russians would have you think.

This is just my opinion, but for all the talk of manpower shortages and air defenses collapsing, I’ve yet to see Russian making significant gains.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:48 am to
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New anti- Shahed weapon being developed by Ukraine.

AI-Powered Turret That Hunts Russian Missiles and Drones? Meet Sky Sentinel Ukraine’s New Air Defense


Out of the "garages". Sure.




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Very nice.


Cope started the day with cope.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:52 am
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:49 am to
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You insane dipshit, it isn't his decision to make alone. Unless, of course, you mean capitulation. Which we both know you do. You are a retarded ghoul.


Look here, you mouthy twat, since his tax dollars are going to it, he has a say. Now shut your ukrainian trap.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 10:55 am to
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Russian massive drone and missile attacks don’t matter, Ukraine retaliates and they don’t want peace! Understand?


Who is "they"? Zelensky regime, sure. But I bet there isn't a single credible survey done that shows how many actual Ukrainians living in Ukraine want this to end.

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I am a scumbag and a rube


FIFY

This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:08 am to
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Reading through the 10 or so pages I missed during memorial day weekend...

Speaking of which, it's very telling to see who was really active during an American holiday weekend and who had better things to do (like celebrate those who sacrificed everything for America).

Got a couple Russians and Ukranians that must have missed the memo this weekend.


Several of these trolls are Ukrainian for sure, but they could be migrants living in US or EU. This site has several thousand members, some less active than others, out of those few thousands, there's gotta be at least a dozen of ukros in there. There's a goddamn two ukro-born Congress reps- Spartz and Vindman(the brother of the other traitorous fat shite).

They are very mouthy, so the few of them here will certainly find their way into a thread like this.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:22 am to
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