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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:29 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:29 pm to VolSquatch
I am not playing your two year old brat games.
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:44 pm to CitizenK
That's what I thought.
Makes claims, can't back them up. Been doing it as long as I've been reading this thread.
What a fricking grifter.
Makes claims, can't back them up. Been doing it as long as I've been reading this thread.
What a fricking grifter.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:10 pm to VolSquatch
That is your game. You play like or actually don't understand a lot and the "why can't I stick my finger in a light socket" type question. Quite similar to podcasters with " we are just asking questions" when they have an obvious looney tunes guest on with fake history and fake data,
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:15 pm to CitizenK
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You play like or actually don't understand a lot and the "why can't I stick my finger in a light socket" type question. Quite similar to podcasters with " we are just asking questions" when they have an obvious looney tunes guest on with fake history and fake data,
Yet you don't have any links or specific examples to back this up.
IIRC some posted proved the "revolutionary technology" you were working on has actually existed for decades, right?
Ultimately this boils down to the fact that you're just mad at me for calling out obvious bullshite, both in regards to you and Ukraine. That's fine, I understand many older folks are very prideful and it hurts to realize that you might actually be pretty stupid.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:41 pm to VolSquatch
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The attack killed up to 20 drone operators, the statement read. Russian forces reportedly used the facility to prepare, equip, and launch reconnaissance, strike, and FPV (first-person-view) drones.
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Had they struck a missile site the war crime argument would have actual legs, given Russian's propensity to hit playgrounds and hospitals instead of actual military targets.
russian war crime via strike drone update:
Russian Drone Strikes Kill Child, Injure Others in Ukraine
The strikes follow a major Russian assault on April 24 that involved over 200 missiles and drones. One North Korean-made missile hit a residential building in Kyiv, killing 12 people.
by Kyiv Post | April 29, 2025, 8:30 am
The aftermath of the drone attack in the Dnipropetrovsk region. (Photo by the State Emergency Service of Ukraine on Telegram)
Russian drone strikes killed a 12-year-old girl and injured several others in Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk region overnight, local officials said Monday.
Ukrainian air defenses shot down seven drones over the region, but one attack caused significant damage in a residential area, said Serhiy Lysak, head of the regional military administration.
A six-year-old girl and two adults were wounded in Russia’s attack on the civilian target and are receiving outpatient care. Residents pulled both children from the rubble of a damaged apartment building, but the older girl died on the way to the hospital.
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:59 pm to John Barron
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:05 pm to John Barron
When do you expect this to manifest on the battlefield?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:22 pm to Chromdome35
Russian take on what's going on
LINK
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JD Vance is a smart guy, but he sacrifices logic for a false, self-serving narrative.
He says Ukraine isn't winning the war — fair enough. But in the next breath, he warns that this means millions more will die, the war could go nuclear, and invokes concerns about "nightmare demographics" in "these countries."
But it's not about any of that. It's about the US pouring in billions while Ukraine keeps losing. If the US stops, Ukraine collapses, the war ends — and no one else has to die.
But. America can't afford to take a massive L — not with its ego and power projection at stake in the region.
The US excels at two things: starting wars abroad and spinning the narrative at home.
Again. America is not a peace broker in Ukraine. It's a central actor.
Trump admin sees that Ukraine is losing, so now they want to cut losses and freeze Russian gains on American terms. To pause and restart the conflict at will, in line with their behaviorist religion.
Saving their proxy-army in the face of defeat has nothing to do with a genuine desire for peace.
LINK
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:01 pm to VolSquatch
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I guess you missed this part:
No, but it doesn't change the fact that drones have killed civilians. Your implication about going after missile sites/stockpiles hinges on those being the only weapon used to target civilians, so they should have gone after that if punishing war crimes was the aim.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:08 pm to StormyMcMan
Vance-
If millions more die and a million or so has fied already, then while Ukraine is losing so is Russia. Russia is losing a lot.
The author/
So the US is the bad guy here? What about the billions Russia is pouring in? Oh, and why are the Europeans spending more in NATO and why are they donating billions to Ukraine.
The author asserts that people are dying because the US supported Ukraine and prevented a Russian takeover. But the real reason people are dying is because Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.
The author-
I submit that Russia has way more to lose than we do. In fact they have already lost hundreds of thousand of young men and billions of dollars. They have already lost respect from their poor performance and every day the war continued they lose more and more. Putin sees all this, but he can’t quit. If he does he might not last very long.
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He says Ukraine isn't winning the war — fair enough. But in the next breath, he warns that this means millions more will die, the war could go nuclear, and invokes concerns about "nightmare demographics" in "these countries."
If millions more die and a million or so has fied already, then while Ukraine is losing so is Russia. Russia is losing a lot.
The author/
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But it's not about any of that. It's about the US pouring in billions while Ukraine keeps losing. If the US stops, Ukraine collapses, the war ends — and no one else has to die.
So the US is the bad guy here? What about the billions Russia is pouring in? Oh, and why are the Europeans spending more in NATO and why are they donating billions to Ukraine.
The author asserts that people are dying because the US supported Ukraine and prevented a Russian takeover. But the real reason people are dying is because Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.
The author-
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But. America can't afford to take a massive L — not with its ego and power projection at stake in the region.
I submit that Russia has way more to lose than we do. In fact they have already lost hundreds of thousand of young men and billions of dollars. They have already lost respect from their poor performance and every day the war continued they lose more and more. Putin sees all this, but he can’t quit. If he does he might not last very long.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:44 pm to DakIsNoLB
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No, but it doesn't change the fact that drones have killed civilians. Your implication about going after missile sites/stockpiles hinges on those being the only weapon used to target civilians, so they should have gone after that if punishing war crimes was the aim.
Civilians have been killed in nearly every single conflict in the history of mankind. We both know a few incidents isn't getting anyone tried for war crimes.
We've seen the Russians use multimillion dollar missiles that end up hitting playgrounds. Misfires can happen, but its been happening so much (especially lately) that obviously not all of them are misfires. They don't give a frick about the accuracy of a $1,000 drone though.
So yeah, if you're actually doing it because of "war crimes" you would be targeting the missile sites.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:46 pm to cypher
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The Kyiv Post
Even in the "article" you shared:
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One North Korean-made missile hit a residential building in Kyiv, killing 12 people.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:50 pm to StormyMcMan
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JD Vance is a smart guy, but he sacrifices logic for a false, self-serving narrative.
He says Ukraine isn't winning the war — fair enough. But in the next breath, he warns that this means millions more will die, the war could go nuclear, and invokes concerns about "nightmare demographics" in "these countries."
But it's not about any of that. It's about the US pouring in billions while Ukraine keeps losing. If the US stops, Ukraine collapses, the war ends — and no one else has to die.
But. America can't afford to take a massive L — not with its ego and power projection at stake in the region.
The US excels at two things: starting wars abroad and spinning the narrative at home.
Again. America is not a peace broker in Ukraine. It's a central actor.
Trump admin sees that Ukraine is losing, so now they want to cut losses and freeze Russian gains on American terms. To pause and restart the conflict at will, in line with their behaviorist religion.
Saving their proxy-army in the face of defeat has nothing to do with a genuine desire for peace.
That is surprisingly accurate and honest take of the Russian point of view. Especially considering how the Biden admin treated Ukraine. Obviously Russia could just stop, which Russians will never admit. But some of the other points besides "the US is actually the bad guy" are pretty spot on.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:09 pm to VolSquatch
latest war crime victim, murdered via strike drone...
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:25 pm to VolSquatch
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Civilians have been killed in nearly every single conflict in the history of mankind. We both know a few incidents isn't getting anyone tried for war crimes.
This isn't up to you, me, or anyone else. Perhaps it won't be enough to charge for a war crime, but I'm not stuck on this guy using the term literally.
The articles specifically mention the targeting of civilians. That's not the collateral damage you are alluding to, and Ukraine has struck missile sites. Both are sources of civilian casualties due to direct targeting.
This isn't a gotcha on Ukraine for stating what they stated.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:49 pm to John Barron
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:23 pm to Chromdome35
Kellogg is irrelevant and that is why he was Replaced with Witkoff. In that video Kellogg lies and says Ukraine has agreed to the terms when just last week Rubio canceled the meeting in London because Zelensky refused to agree to the terms in Trump's peace proposal. Kellogg is lying about things that just happened last week
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:02 pm to DakIsNoLB
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This isn't up to you, me, or anyone else.
No one was saying it was, I'm making an observation about something that will almost undoubtedly end up being an accurate one.
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but I'm not stuck on this guy using the term literally
Yeah because he's not Russian
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:06 pm to Chromdome35
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When do you expect this to manifest on the battlefield?
Lots of meat for the meat waves and grinder.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:09 pm to doubleb
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The author asserts that people are dying because the US supported Ukraine and prevented a Russian takeover. But the real reason people are dying is because Putin wants to revive the Soviet Union.
Putin said that Communism couldn't be made to work no matter how hard they tried. However, he also fashions himself in the image of Peter the Great and wants to restore the Russian Empire sans communism.
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