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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Lots of meat for the meat waves and grinder


Ukraine is certainly donating alot of meat to the grinder. Over the last 6 months consistent 20-1 dead body ratio.

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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:51 pm to
russian drone terrorism update...

Russian drone attack injures at least 38 in Kharkiv

by Olena Goncharova April 29, 2025 11:48 PM (Updated:
April 30, 2025 2:15 AM

Russian drone attacks struck multiple locations across Kharkiv late on April 29, injuring at least 38 people, including a 5-year-old girl, a 16-year-old boy, and a 24-year-old pregnant woman, local authorities reported. Four civilians have been hospitalized following the attack.

Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city, has endured repeated air assaults throughout the full-scale war.

"There have been 16 strikes on Kharkiv," Mayor Ihor Terekhov wrote on Telegram.

"A high-rise apartment block was hit as well as private residences, a medical facility, and civil infrastructure." He said several parts of the city center were targeted, including the Slobidskyi district, where the apartment building was struck, and the Saltivskyi district. First responders have been dispatched to the sites of attack.

The Kyiv Independent
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:57 pm to
Breaking ? That was a week ago!
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:04 pm to
22:1

Still can’t best Ukraine.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:59 pm to
The Ukrainian Nazis could not even handle the North Koreans in Kursk!

Imagine being defeated by a bunch of malnourished soldiers according to NAFO trolls


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Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:35 pm to
Ukraine wanting to hold on to small pieces of a region they have almost lost is funny. You are going to lose it no matter what but they rather keep killing their soldiers while kidnapping unwilling meat of the streets.

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Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:36 pm to
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Meanwhile Ukraine is pulling men from its rear area air defense units and pulling old and unfit men off the street to flesh out their infantry units at the front.

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A series of interviews with Ukrainian officers, who spoke anonymously, given the sensitivity of the issue, paint a worrying picture for Ukraine’s war effort.

” The people we get now are not like the people who were there in the beginning of the war,” said one soldier currently serving in Ukraine’s 114th territorial defence brigade, who has been stationed in various hotspots over the past two years. “Recently, we received 90 people, but only 24 of them were ready to move to the positions. The rest were old, sick or alcoholics. A month ago, they were walking around Kyiv or Dnipro and now they are in a trench and can barely hold a weapon. Poorly trained, and poorly equipped,” he said.


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Two sources in air defence units told the Guardian the deficit at the front has become so acute that the general staff has ordered already-depleted air defence units to free up more men to send to the front as infantry

“It’s reaching a critical level where we can’t be sure that air defence can function properly,” said one of the sources, saying he had been prompted to speak out by a fear that the situation was a risk to Ukraine’s security.

“These people knew how air defence works, some had been trained in the West and had real skills, now they are sent to the front to fight, for which they have no training,” said the source.

The Guardian - Dec 2024

Anyone who knows history, understand what it means when a county is pulling old men and untrained rear area troops to the front to fight as infantry. It’s been done before…





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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 8:53 pm to
So five months ago Ukraine reached a crisis stage as far as manpower goes. Russia is getting a record number of soldiers signing up.
Ukraine’s are dying at a 22:1 clip. Russian artillery is dominating Ukraine at a 12:1 clop. Air defenses in Ukraine are being canavalized.

My question to you is why aren’t we seeing the results on the battlefield?
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:25 pm to
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So five months ago Ukraine reached a crisis stage as far as manpower goes. Russia is getting a record number of soldiers signing up. Ukraine’s are dying at a 22:1 clip. Russian artillery is dominating Ukraine at a 12:1 clop. Air defenses in Ukraine are being canavalized.

My question to you is why aren’t we seeing the results on the battlefield?


You have to understand the nature of warfare, especially in today’s hyper-political landscape. One of the main weapons of war is propaganda. Basically, you have to sift through the bullshite and use deductive reasoning based on logic and knowledge of military history.

Having said all that, I’d say you should be highly skeptical of any casualty figures released by either side, or even purported by media outlets.

So, what does that leave us? Well, let’s lay out some facts:

The war is in its third year. And it’s been stalemated for almost two years. So, the one definite fact we know about this war is it’s a stalemate. So, what is the nature of a stalemated war? What decides the outcome of such a war? Again, history gives us the answer. And that answer is exhaustion. The side who runs out of men and resources first, will lose.

So, and you’ll have to do a bit of homework here, I suggest if you want really understand how this war will end, look into which country, Russia or Ukraine, has the advantage in manpower and resources.

As for what we’re seeing on the battlefield, I’ll again refer you to the nature of this war, the nature of a stalemated war. As always history can guide us. Specifically WWI, more specifically, the Western Front of WWI. In that war, stalemate descended on the front in 1914. Between 1914 and the end of the war in 1918, the front barely moved. In fact, if you read the daily updates from this war; about how the Russians advance here and take this and that village sometimes the Ukrainians advance a few kilometers and take this or that village, it reads exactly like updates written in 1916.

All that to say, when the end in WWI came, it came suddenly. In summer 1918, it looked as though the war would drag on for at least two more years or longer. Tens of thousands were dying monthly on both sides. Then, in the fall of 1918, the German lines finally started to crack and rapidly began to crumble all together. The Germans had reached their breaking point. That’s how a stalemated war ends. One moment appears that it will go on for the foreseeable future, until it doesn’t. And when that point comes, the losing side degenerates rapidly.

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Posted on 4/29/25 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:18 pm to
I understand all that, but consider this.

One side is attacking a fortified front recklessly with minor successes. These attacks have to be costing more troops than ghd defense is losing, right?

These troops being used are not good fighting men. They rushed through training to the front lines. Again there is an enormous waste.

I’ve read that Russia is not getting the numbers of volunteers that they were getting previously. That is having an impact.

I believe Russia should eventually force Ukraine to surrender, but because of the inefficient use of troops and the lack of elite units and the lack of motorized units the Russian superiority in numbers is not presenting a decisive force against Ukraine. Consequently, when they eventually gain a tactical advantage they are unable to act decisively to take full advantage.


Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:31 pm to
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I’ve read that Russia is not getting the numbers of volunteers that they were getting previously. That is having an impact.


No you didn't. You just read a tweet from Rob Lee who is pro Ukrainian saying Russian volunteers are increasing. This is the problem with you NAFO trolls, you deny reality no matter who is giving you the information


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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:40 am to
NAFO trolls trying to grift more money just like Zelensky. Unbelievable


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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:46 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:08 am to
The NAFO trolls told me China was going to abandon Russia


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Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:15 am to
DPRK Bros singing Katyusha...This timeline


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Posted on 4/30/25 at 4:22 am to
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So five months ago Ukraine reached a crisis stage as far as manpower goes. Russia is getting a record number of soldiers signing up. Ukraine’s are dying at a 22:1 clip. Russian artillery is dominating Ukraine at a 12:1 clop. Air defenses in Ukraine are being canavalized.

My question to you is why aren’t we seeing the results on the battlefield?

Exactly. The answer to your retorical question is of course, drones. The Ukrainians are producing over four million drones per year now and have enough trained drone operators to cover every part of the front line. They average one drone operator per eight kilometers of front and operate from safe positions well behind the lines. This is why women are increasingly filling these positions.

Using observation drones to monitor this frontage, they can quickly apply FPV drones to attack any developing targets and call in other operators for backup when it develops into a turkey shoot.

You don't need trenches full of experienced soldiers to defeat a Russian attack when you have this coverage with these weapons. So any discussion of Russian manpower advantages are based on historical comparisons, not the realities of this war today.

It is a stalemate, but militarily time is very much on Ukraine's side. Ukrainian casualty rates are dropping, both in numbers and percentage of units. Ukrainian offensive operations have changed in size and scope to inflict maximum damage but with the primary focus on minimizing casuaties. They carefully pick their fights because they can. There is no need for any massed attacks or defenses to the last man. They have the Russians on the ropes and control the tempo of the fighting.

The Russian attacks on civilians are putting pressure on Kyiv, but the Russian attacks on the front lines are just killing an average of 1100 Russian soldiers per day. And showing nothing for it. If it weren't for the Russian attacks on civilians, I doubt the Ukrainians would be asking for peace.
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