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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:12 pm to
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I have not reported anything


Let me help you out with the definition of report, since English doesn’t appear to be your first language;

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verb 1. give a spoken or written account of something that one has observed, heard, done, or investigated:


You have reported here for the past six of seven months.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:22 pm to
double b,

Talk about not facing the facts, now you are giving grammar lessons rather than admit just what every news agency in the world and every country involved has reported......Ukraine has few troops left and the "meat grinder" theories of the Russian army are nonsense.

This is what happens when you use what artillery you have for publicity stunts in Russia killing civilians.....instead of troop support on the front lines.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Russian missile attack on Kharkiv on Good Friday kills 1, injures 87


C'mon... not true "good Christian lads" would ever do such a thing!!!
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20236 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:25 pm to
zelensky has to stop this, how much money is enough for this guy? I guess its just ego at this point.

US weapons will be gone in six or seven weeks, lets see what happens then. And who lasts longer, the country of ukraine or cargo pants.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:12 pm to
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US weapons will be gone in six or seven weeks


Is that when Trump is going to change his mind? Because he's been pouring the money and ammo into Ukraine like it's going out of style.
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lets see what happens then.

Is the Ukraine front collapsing again?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Ukraine has few troops left


Russia has said publicly that it has nearly 1 million troops in Ukraine right now. So what's stopping them from rolling on Kiev and ending this?
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Talk about not facing the facts

You were saying?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:19 pm to
Volodymyr Zelenskyy /
@ZelenskyyUa

Emergency response operations are still underway in Kharkiv following the Russian missile strike. Preliminary reports indicate they were cruise missiles—Iskanders. One of the missiles detonated in mid-air over a residential neighborhood; another struck an industrial site near a housing area.

As a result of the strike, ordinary apartment buildings were damaged, and many people were injured—over a hundred. Everyone is receiving assistance. These are completely different people—some elderly, some very young. All they were doing was living their lives in their own country, in their own city — and that alone makes them targets for Russia and its missiles.

One must be an outright scumbag and despise life to carry out such missile strikes on an ordinary city on Good Friday, the eve of Easter. And when we appeal to our partners—primarily the United States—for Patriot systems and missiles for them that can protect against this Russian evil—against cruise missiles and ballistic threats—we are asking for the kind of protection every nation deserves.

There must never be a situation where one nation is deemed more deserving of assistance than another. Besides, helping is the Christian thing to do. Especially when there is a real opportunity to help. And there must never be a situation where one terrorist can somehow escape consequences, even though they destroy lives just as others do. Russia deserves at the very least severe sanctions as retribution for all it is doing.



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This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Talk about not facing the facts, now you are giving grammar lessons rather than admit just what every news agency in the world and every country involved has reported......Ukraine has few troops left and the "meat grinder" theories of the Russian army are nonsense.


I am not debating the fact that Ukraine is outmanned and out gunned. I’m just asking why aren’t the Russians taking full advantage of the situation?

Every week someone trumpets a Russian breakthrough, but when I see a map the actual gains are very small.

It’s obvious to anyone paying attention that these reports are exaggerated, the Russian military is incompetent, or Russia isn’t even trying.

And this is not new. The firehosers bring such reports every other week. Then You come here and tell us the war is over, but it’s been like this for over a yesr now.

The war isn’t over and the breakthroughs are small tactical victories.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:55 pm to
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JUST IN! Bloomberg: U.S. Proposes Recognizing Russian Control Over Liberated Territories and Ukraine’s NATO Withdrawal in Exchange for Ceasefire

According to European officials cited by Bloomberg, the United States has presented a proposal in Paris aimed at ending the conflict, which includes recognition of Russia’s control over the territories it currently holds in Ukraine.

The proposal also calls for Ukraine to abandon its efforts to join NATO — a key demand voiced by Moscow since the beginning of the conflict.

In return, Washington is reportedly willing to consider a gradual easing of sanctions against Russia, provided a ceasefire is reached.

American representatives in Paris stated they aim to achieve a complete cessation of hostilities in Ukraine within the coming weeks.


Truthfully if this actually got a ceasefire accomplished that isn't terrible. US recognition isn't that huge of a deal all things considered. The US didn't recognize Moroccos control of Western Sahara until Trump 45 and nothing really changed before or after

I do think the NATO thing should have a sunset clause but otherwise given the gradual reduction of sanctions to ensure compliance by Russia it doesn't seem super terrible.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:01 pm to
The Ukrainian Army is down so bad they are getting beat up by teenagers in Kiev

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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42747 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 4:28 pm to
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JUST IN! Bloomberg: U.S. Proposes Recognizing Russian Control Over Liberated Territories and Ukraine’s NATO Withdrawal in Exchange for Ceasefire


Russia gets territories and both sides get ceasefire.[

quote]According to European officials cited by Bloomberg, the United States has presented a proposal in Paris aimed at ending the conflict, which includes recognition of Russia’s control over the territories it currently holds in Ukraine[/quote]

Again Russia gets territory

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The proposal also calls for Ukraine to abandon its efforts to join NATO — a key demand voiced by Moscow since the beginning of the conflict.


Ok Ukraine quits trying to get into NATO.

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In return, Washington is reportedly willing to consider a gradual easing of sanctions against Russia, provided a ceasefire is reached.


Russia gets relief from the sanctions.Boyh sides get a ceasefire.

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American representatives in Paris stated they aim to achieve a complete cessation of hostilities in Ukraine within the coming weeks.


Great, but who makes sure the peace is kept?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4689 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:15 pm to
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Great, but who makes sure the peace is kept?


I'm assuming the sanctions threat is there for thar, but I'd prefer and actual UN or EU peace keeping force if I had my magic wand

And now random tweets
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According to Bloomberg, the United States is prepared to internationally recognize the Crimean Peninsula in Southeastern Ukraine, which was captured by Russia during its initial invasion of Ukraine in 2014, as a territory of the Russia Federation, under a peace agreement to end the fighting between Moscow and Kyiv.

LINK

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The EU will not open its airspace to Russian airlines in case of a ceasefire in Ukraine, — Politico.

Without the participation of European countries, Russian airlines will not be able to fly to the US, and the EU is not interested because:

?? The ban is a response to the invasion of Ukraine;
?? The EU has serious questions about the safety of Russian aircraft, which are likely to have uncertified or counterfeit parts;
?? Many Russian planes will be arrested as soon as they land at European airports due to Russia's confiscation of hundreds of Western aircraft on lease after the EU sanctions were imposed.

LINK

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:25 pm to
Putin loses power once this is over and the Russian oligarchs see how he has screwed the economy and them
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 6:21 pm to
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CitizenK


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Putin loses power once this is over




Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 6:44 pm to




Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:09 pm to
You are correct, Putin is batshitt crazy
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13500 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:13 pm to
Dictators are always the last one to be surprised when the noose closes in on them.

The Putin regime has lasted longer than any ruler I can think of in Russian history. When he's gone, Russia will go back to its time proven cycle of collapse, revolution, reformation, expansion, etc. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:21 pm to
‘Ukraine faces heavy losses this summer’ – American journalist David Ignatius

‘Trump, Rubio and their team seem to be preparing to step away from this issue, leaving it in the hands of the Europeans. And I’m sorry to say this, but despite the enormous efforts of the Europeans, they do not have the necessary resources to replace the United States. They are not able to compensate for this gap, which means that unless something changes, Ukraine will find itself in a situation this summer where its losses will become increasingly heavy.’


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