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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:00 am to
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Anyone acting like we haven't lived up to our side of the bargain is a complete fool. Its a nonsensical point.


The results were not favorable for Ukraine despite what we have done despite what we did.

But what we did was too little too late anyway. Russia tested the waters in 2014 and got away with it remember?
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:14 am to
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Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:26 am to
It’s Wednesday April 16th and Ukraine is still losing. Did they ever recapture those trees in Kursk
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:08 am to
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It’s Wednesday April 16th and Ukraine is still losing. Did they ever recapture those trees in Kursk


Ukraine still holds part of Kursk and within easy range of the giant natural gas metering station.

Edit: The metering station is occupied by Ukraine.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:30 pm to
Ukrainian parliament extends martial law and mobilisation until 6 August

STANISLAV POHORILOV — Wednesday, 16 April 2025, 11:16

The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) has extended martial law and mobilisation in Ukraine for three months until 6 August.

Source: Ukrainian MP Yaroslav Zhelezniak on Telegram

Quote: "For the 15th time in this convocation, the parliament has approved No. 13172 to extend martial law until 06 August (for 90 days)."

Details: The decision has been approved by 357 MPs, with 1 voting against.

MPs also approved draft law No. 13173 to extend mobilisation until 6 August, with 346 voting in favour, 1 against and 1 abstaining.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Russia Spending $22M Per Day on Military Recruitment


Source: Moscow Times...a USAID funded rag located in Amsterdam


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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Source: Moscow Times...a USAID funded rag located in Amsterdam


USAID????? Nope.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 5:58 pm to
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It’s Wednesday April 16th and Ukraine is still losing. Did they ever recapture those trees in Kursk


That's one hell of a three week special operation.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:13 pm to
When will Russia claim its shadow fleet tanker which was actually flying a false flag when Estonia detained it? Oh, with a Chinese captain. I guess Russia is lacking skilled mariners.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:22 pm to
ISW Update April 16 2025

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Key Takeaways:

The White House reiterated that the United States will not engage in economic agreements with Russia until Russia agrees to a ceasefire, amid continued Russian efforts to deflect blame onto Ukraine for the Kremlin's rejection of such a ceasefire.

Russia is reportedly heavily dependent on North Korean artillery ammunition as North Korea continues to learn lessons from Russia's war against Ukraine.

Russian authorities recently detained former Kursk Oblast Governor Alexei Smirnov, likely as part of the Kremlin efforts to scapegoat Kursk Oblast officials for their failure in responding to Ukraine’s August 2024 incursion into Kursk Oblast.

Ukrainian officials reported that Russian forces recently executed at least one unarmed Ukrainian prisoner of war (POW) near Rozdolne (northeast of Velyka Novosilka).

Russian forces recently advanced near Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Velyka Novosilka.


Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:50 am to
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Ukrainian Domestic missile production increases eightfold in 2024

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Strategic Industries Minister Herman Smetanin said the country increased cruise missile production eightfold in 2024 compared to the previous year. He highlighted the progress since 2022, when Ukraine was only able to manufacture a single type of cruise missile, the Neptune.

Ukraine has also more than doubled its production of long-range drones in 2024 compared to the previous year, which is a 22-fold increase compared to 2022. In total, 324 new types of weapons were developed in Ukraine by the end of 2024.

Smetanin said Ukraine produced $9 billion worth of arms in 2024, and the defense industry is on track to nearly quadruple that amount by the end of 2025. “We already foresee growth this year,” he said. “By the end of 2025, we will have the capacity to produce $35 billion worth of military equipment domestically.”

Ukraine has been rapidly developing its domestic arms industry since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022. In December 2024, President Volodymyr Zelensky said the country aims to produce 30,000 long-range drones and 3,000 missiles. As of November 2024, Ukraine had produced its first 100 domestically made missiles.
LINK
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:09 am to
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Pentagon officials have reached out to “an unspecified allied state,” urging them to halt their continued arms supplies to Ukraine. However, that country rejected the request.

Two comments here:

First, this development was entirely predictable. The U.S. administration’s plan to pressure Ukraine into capitulation is clearly failing. While the U.S. has cut all aid, European countries have stepped up their support.

Now, the U.S. is shifting its pressure onto them, trying to force Europe to capitulate as well.

Second, the U.S. doesn't true "allied states" anymore. European trust in the U.S. has eroded significantly. The European Commission has begun issuing burner phones and basic laptops to staff traveling to the U.S. — a precaution once reserved for trips to China — to “avoid the risk of espionage.”

Sources: The Economist, Financial Times


More failure from Shine Boy and his house drunk Hegseth. Trump needlessly destroyed all leverage we had with EU countries with his attempted (and failed) tariffs. Now he expects them to take his phone calls?

By now, the Europeans know Trump is just following instructions from the Kremlin. Any proposals coming from Trump originate with Putin.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4595 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:31 am to
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Trump rejected Ukraine's proposal to buy Patriot missiles for $50bn by using EU funds and frozen Russian assets. Zelensky proposed buying missiles at €5.5 million per unit following recent Russian attacks in Kryvy Rih and Sumy that killed 56 civilians, including 11 children
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The entire basis of Trump's refusal to help Ukraine was that it was costing US taxpayer's money. Now Zelensky wants to buy over $50 billion worth of Patriot batteries for defending Ukrainian civilians from Russian missle attacks. No US taxpayer's money used, a great deal of support for American defense companies and their employees for defensive-only weapons.

But Putin said no.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5723 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:19 am to

5 killed, 68 injured in Russian attacks on Ukraine over past day


by Tim Zadorozhnyy April 17, 2025 11:25 AM

At least five people were killed and 68 injured in Russian attacks across Ukraine over the past day, regional officials reported on April 17.

Russia launched 75 drones, including Shahed-type drones, two Iskander-M ballistic missiles, and three S-300/400 anti-aircraft guided missiles against Ukraine overnight, according to the Air Force.

Air defenses intercepted 25 drones, while 30 vanished from radars — likely deployed as decoys to overwhelm Ukraine's air defense systems.

The assault was repelled by a combination of Ukraine's electronic warfare units, aviation, anti-aircraft missile troops, and mobile fire groups.

In Dnipro, a drone strike killed three people, including a child, and injured 30, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Governor Serhii Lysak said. Five of the injured are children. The strike damaged a dozen apartment buildings, numerous houses, a school, a dormitory, and a gymnasium.

In Kherson Oblast, one person was killed and 15 others wounded, including a child, Governor Oleksandr Prokudin said. Russian forces targeted residential areas and critical infrastructure.

Russian attacks in Kharkiv Oblast left 16 people injured, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported. The strikes damaged residential buildings and civilian infrastructure across multiple communities.

In Donetsk Oblast, a resident of Pokrovsk was killed, and six others were injured across the region, according to Governor Vadym Filashkin.

In Zaporizhzhia Oblast, a 55-year-old man was injured, and Russian forces carried out 350 strikes on 15 settlements during the day, Governor Ivan Fedorov reported.

The widespread attacks come amid continued Russian rejection of a full ceasefire agreement and follow recent intensification of strikes on civilian areas across Ukraine.

The Kyiv Independent
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2876 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:20 am to
A bad move on Trump's part.

If the his (and many others) issue is with spending US money, he should be satisfied that it isn't US dollars. I guess the administration could make the argument that these nations can support Ukraine because of the US defense of Europe but that would be a weak argument.

Not selling the Patriots could be considered consistent with his calls for peace... Russia/Putin would see it that way. Again - I think it's a weak argument.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4595 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:39 am to
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Not selling the Patriots could be considered consistent with his calls for peace
I would agree with you if these were offensive weapons. But they are strictly used to defend against air attacks. And with the daily terror attacks by Russia on civilian targets, there is absolutely no reason to deny the Ukrainians these weapons.

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I think it's a weak argument.

Yes it is, absolutely. Until you think of what possible reason could justify his denial... Those Epstein tapes must be worse than we can imagine. How young were those girls anyway?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:39 am to
Maybe if you want a country to stop doing something, using money seized from that country to buy weapons to use against it isn't the best idea?

Trump has absolutely gone too far towards the capitulation side of de-escalation multiple times already, but this to me isn't one of those times.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:01 am to
Lunatic Cope is binge posting again. He is deranged and delusional. How many posts per day is he allowed in solitary? He's a nut.




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