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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:01 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:01 pm to Chromdome35
quote:Do it yourself. You'll learn something.
ETA: Be sure to post whatever prompt you use to generate the response.
F/u your own prompt, the one you listed here, with the suggestion to Grok that it is relying on pro-Ukrainian and liberal sources to compile its answer.
(If you want to bias the result in the opposite direction, simply tell Grok to do better, that the account in question is clearly not Russian and demand Grok give you an unbiased answer to a verbatim repost of your original question). FWIW, I'm not suggesting the Bebo account is or is not Russo-affiliated. Just giving you ways to obtain a completely different AI response to an identical prompt.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:09 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Grok to do better, that the account in question is clearly not Russian and demand Grok give you an unbiased answer to a verbatim repost of your original question)
Isn't seeding the prompt with the statement "is clearly not Russian" clearly introducing bias into the prompt. The core question is "Is @mylordbebo a russian disinformation channel?"
I think a better followup would be "Do better, provide an unbiased answer". Do you agree?
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:21 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
Isn't seeding the prompt
When you can't dispute the facts showing clear video evidence. Try and discredit the source is NAFO Troll 101 tactics
Chromdome35: Showing Putin Speaking is Russian Propaganda!
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:25 pm to John Barron
I have no idea what you are trying to say, but I am sure it's more of this
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:25 pm to Chromdome35
quote:100%!!!!!
Isn't seeding the prompt with the statement "is clearly not Russian" clearly introducing bias
That is why I said
quote:The point being (a) AI starts off political responses with a definitive leftward bias, and (b) AI can be often reworked through suggestions against preprogrammed tendencies to produce an equally biased yet oppositional result to a political prompt. Neither is accurate.
If you want to bias the result ...
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:26 pm to NC_Tigah
You are right, I missed that qualifier.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:29 pm to John Barron
France and Britain failed to implement the idea of deploying European troops in Ukraine - WSJ
**Not a single European country has made a public commitment to send troops to Ukraine.
**Europe fears that the US will not support its military contingent in the event of a Russian attack.
**A number of American officials have already criticized this initiative itself.
**Earlier, following a meeting of the “coalition of the willing,” Macron stated that the intention to send “deterrent forces” to Ukraine remains.
**Not a single European country has made a public commitment to send troops to Ukraine.
**Europe fears that the US will not support its military contingent in the event of a Russian attack.
**A number of American officials have already criticized this initiative itself.
**Earlier, following a meeting of the “coalition of the willing,” Macron stated that the intention to send “deterrent forces” to Ukraine remains.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 4:50 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
You are right, I missed that qualifier.
Not a problem.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:11 pm to Chromdome35
Is the OT now ready to admit this is a lost cause and as the P-board tried to mention years ago.
Tolja so…
DOGE is going to trace out all that circle back money as well.
600,000 lives lost in Biden’s schemings.
Tolja so…
DOGE is going to trace out all that circle back money as well.
600,000 lives lost in Biden’s schemings.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:16 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:20 pm to cypher
US Seeks to Control Investment in Ukraine, Squeezing Out Europe
The US is pushing to control all major future infrastructure and mineral investments in Ukraine, potentially gaining a veto over any role for Kyiv’s other allies and undermining its bid for European Union membership.
President Donald Trump’s administration is demanding the “right of first offer” on investments in all infrastructure and natural resources projects under a revised partnership deal with Ukraine, according to a draft of the document obtained by Bloomberg News.
If accepted, the partnership agreement would bestow enormous power on the US to control investments into Ukraine in projects including roads and railways, ports, mines, oil and gas and extraction of critical minerals. It would represent an unprecedented expansion of US economic influence in Europe’s largest country by area just at the time when it’s attempting to align with the EU.
The agreement would grant the US first claim on profits transferred into a special reconstruction investment fund that would be controlled by Washington. Crucially, the document states that the US regards the “material and financial benefits” provided to Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022 as its contribution to that fund.
In effect, this would mean the Trump administration would compel Ukraine to pay for all of the US military and economic support provided since the start of the war before Kyiv received any income from the partnership fund.
The US delivered a revised agreement to officials in Kyiv last weekend after plans for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to sign an earlier accord fell apart following a tense Oval Office confrontation with Trump last month. The White House said last week that the administration was moving beyond the previously negotiated deal covering critical minerals in Ukraine.
Discussions are continuing between the two sides and the final draft may contain revisions to the terms. Ukraine will likely respond to the US document with its own amendments this week, a person familiar with the matter told Bloomberg News.
Bloomberg
The US is pushing to control all major future infrastructure and mineral investments in Ukraine, potentially gaining a veto over any role for Kyiv’s other allies and undermining its bid for European Union membership.
President Donald Trump’s administration is demanding the “right of first offer” on investments in all infrastructure and natural resources projects under a revised partnership deal with Ukraine, according to a draft of the document obtained by Bloomberg News.
If accepted, the partnership agreement would bestow enormous power on the US to control investments into Ukraine in projects including roads and railways, ports, mines, oil and gas and extraction of critical minerals. It would represent an unprecedented expansion of US economic influence in Europe’s largest country by area just at the time when it’s attempting to align with the EU.
The agreement would grant the US first claim on profits transferred into a special reconstruction investment fund that would be controlled by Washington. Crucially, the document states that the US regards the “material and financial benefits” provided to Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022 as its contribution to that fund.
In effect, this would mean the Trump administration would compel Ukraine to pay for all of the US military and economic support provided since the start of the war before Kyiv received any income from the partnership fund.
The US delivered a revised agreement to officials in Kyiv last weekend after plans for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to sign an earlier accord fell apart following a tense Oval Office confrontation with Trump last month. The White House said last week that the administration was moving beyond the previously negotiated deal covering critical minerals in Ukraine.
Discussions are continuing between the two sides and the final draft may contain revisions to the terms. Ukraine will likely respond to the US document with its own amendments this week, a person familiar with the matter told Bloomberg News.
Bloomberg
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:23 pm to cypher
‘With or without the US’ — France, UK harden line over Ukraine at ‘Coalition of the Willing’ summit
by Kateryna Denisova March 27, 2025 5:05 PM
Several European countries have moved forward with plans to send troops to Ukraine as part of a "reassurance force" in case of the ceasefire with Russia, French President Emmanuel Macron announced on March 27 at a summit of European leaders in Paris, which was also attended by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Leaders from 31 countries gathered at the event to coordinate military aid for Ukraine and discuss steps toward a just and lasting peace. The summit follows U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's proposal to form a "coalition of the willing" to support Kyiv.
The initiative is co-led by France and the U.K., which will both send military delegations to Ukraine in the coming days to discuss the so-called "reassurance force," as well as the future shape of Ukraine's army, Macron said.
France is pushing for the deployment of a Europe-led force somewhere along the Dnipro River in central Ukraine, away from the front line, the Associated Press (AP) reported on March 27, citing an unnamed French official.
According to the official, other options under consideration include deploying "reassurance force" in Ukraine's west or in a neighboring country.
Though Starmer still publicly held out for a coalition deployment to be supported by a U.S. "backstop," Macron said that it could take place "with or without" Washington's involvement.
"It does not have unanimity, but we do not need unanimity to do this," Macron said, adding that Europe will send its troops to Ukraine "with or without the U.S."
The Kyiv Independent
by Kateryna Denisova March 27, 2025 5:05 PM
Several European countries have moved forward with plans to send troops to Ukraine as part of a "reassurance force" in case of the ceasefire with Russia, French President Emmanuel Macron announced on March 27 at a summit of European leaders in Paris, which was also attended by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Leaders from 31 countries gathered at the event to coordinate military aid for Ukraine and discuss steps toward a just and lasting peace. The summit follows U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's proposal to form a "coalition of the willing" to support Kyiv.
The initiative is co-led by France and the U.K., which will both send military delegations to Ukraine in the coming days to discuss the so-called "reassurance force," as well as the future shape of Ukraine's army, Macron said.
France is pushing for the deployment of a Europe-led force somewhere along the Dnipro River in central Ukraine, away from the front line, the Associated Press (AP) reported on March 27, citing an unnamed French official.
According to the official, other options under consideration include deploying "reassurance force" in Ukraine's west or in a neighboring country.
Though Starmer still publicly held out for a coalition deployment to be supported by a U.S. "backstop," Macron said that it could take place "with or without" Washington's involvement.
"It does not have unanimity, but we do not need unanimity to do this," Macron said, adding that Europe will send its troops to Ukraine "with or without the U.S."
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:24 pm to BarberitosDawg
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Is the OT now ready to admit this is a lost cause and as the P-board tried to mention years ago.
Can you expand on what you are talking about? What is a lost cause exactly?
Posted on 3/27/25 at 5:27 pm to John Barron
Looks like Putin learned his lesson with trusting Europe after the Minsk Agreements
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 3/27/25 at 6:34 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/27/25 at 6:36 pm to John Barron
Stall
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:08 pm to cypher
quote:
The US is pushing to control all major future infrastructure and mineral investments in Ukraine, potentially gaining a veto over any role for Kyiv’s other allies and undermining its bid for European Union membership.
they shouldn't sign it.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:43 pm to John Barron
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If tweet fails to load, click here. They have been saying this for months. The problem is no one listens to what the Russians are telling you. They basically tell you where their stance is or what their demands are. And so far, they have not budged an inch.
The Zelenskyites live in an echo chamber and only listen to Ukrainian propaganda.
The Putin boys do the same on their side.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:53 pm to AU86
I do not have twitter. I only get my news from Lord John Barron’s firehose of bullshite. The truth is likely the opposite of what he posts because he’s owned by the Russians and all they do is lie.
Based on my interpretation of Lord Barrons diarrhea of lies Putin is gonna keep killing until Ukraine collapses, his assassins finally decapitate the Ukrainian leadership, or his alcohol soaked criminal shite hole country itself collapses.
Based on my interpretation of Lord Barrons diarrhea of lies Putin is gonna keep killing until Ukraine collapses, his assassins finally decapitate the Ukrainian leadership, or his alcohol soaked criminal shite hole country itself collapses.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:44 pm to Camp Randall
ISW Update March 27 2025
quote:
Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated on March 26 that discussions are ongoing about the details of the temporary ceasefire agreements on energy infrastructure strikes and maritime operations in the Black Sea.
Russia continues to strike Ukrainian critical and civilian infrastructure under the cover of the ceasefire on energy infrastructure strikes — which is not in line with US President Donald Trump's goal of using the temporary ceasefire to facilitate a lasting peace in Ukraine.
The Ukrainian General Staff reported that the March 19 to 20 Ukrainian drone strike against Russia's Engels Airbase destroyed a large number of cruise missiles and strategic fuel reserves as Ukrainian officials reported that Russia is prioritizing the production of high-precision missiles.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Russia is preparing for a spring offensive in Sumy and Kharkiv oblasts.
Ukraine's European allies met in Paris for a Coalition of the Willing summit on March 27 to discuss their ongoing support for Ukraine, a monitoring system to ensure ceasefire compliance, and the possible deployment of a "deterrent force" in Ukraine.
Ukrainian forces recently advanced near Borova, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Kurakhove. Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk and Sumy oblasts; near Lyman, Toretsk, and Pokrovsk; and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
The Volunteer Society for Assistance to the Army, Aviation, and Navy of Russia (DOSAAF), which promotes patriotic and military education and has been involved in Russian volunteer recruitment efforts, elected Denis Dobraykov as the new DOSAAF Chairperson on March 27.
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