re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Here is a War update from Rob Lee. A very Pro Ukrainian NAFO Fella

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Ukraine is not an independent state. They are a failed state.

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Ukraine ranks 58th in the world GDP. Ahead of many Russian allies such as Venezuela, Cuba, Serbia, Slovenia, and of course your big friend North Korea.

It has elections, which is something you Russian communists don't appreciate.

Your logic is so without merit. But of course you're not a real person. You're just a paid troll. What a sad life. 80 posts a day here and no telling how many on some other message boards. But I guess it's not bad work for a communist.

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It has elections

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This is a lie. They haven’t held a presidential election since trumps first term

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This is a lie. They haven’t held a presidential election since trumps first term

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Ok that's enough. The little part about being invaded by a criminal dictator. And the fact that their consitution prohibits elections while at war. But I know that you don't know anything about elections or constituions or what not.

I should have ignored you months ago. But I will take my own advice now.

I don't think Putin has much choice anymore; there is a far greater risk to Putin if he stops the war now than if he continues it.

I pulled the data from ChatGPT

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Question:
What is the typical cost of a russian BUK anti air missile

Answer:
The typical cost of a Russian Buk (SA-11 or SA-17) surface-to-air missile is estimated to be in the range of:

$1 million to $3 million per missile, depending on the variant and year of production.

Breakdown by Variant:
Buk-M1 (SA-11 "Gadfly"): ~$1 million per missile

Buk-M2 (SA-17 "Grizzly"): ~$1.5–2 million

Buk-M3 (latest version): ~$2.5–3 million per missile

These are rough estimates based on defense analysis, export data, and procurement disclosures, as Russia does not publish official per-unit costs for these systems.

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I also asked Deepseek R1 (China's AI)

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Answer:
The cost of an individual 9M38 or 9M317 missile for the Russian BUK (Buk-M1, Buk-M2, or Buk-M3) anti-aircraft missile system is estimated to be between
500,000 to 1.5 million per missile, depending on the variant and source.

Breakdown by Variant:
9M38 / 9M38M1 (Buk-M1 missile) – Around 500,000 to 800,000 per missile.
9M317 (Buk-M2 missile) – Approximately 900,000 to 1.5 million per missile.
9M317M / 9M317ME (Buk-M3 missile) – Likely over $1.5 million due to advanced capabilities (e.g., increased range, improved guidance).

Factors Affecting Cost:
Export vs. Domestic Price (Russia sells missiles cheaper to allies like Belarus or Syria).
Older vs. Newer Models (early 9M38 missiles are cheaper than modern 9M317 variants).
Bulk Purchases (large orders may reduce per-unit cost).

For comparison, Western equivalents like the Raytheon SM-2 (U.S.) or Aster 30 (France/Italy) cost $2 million+ per missile, making the Buk system relatively cost-effective.

Would you like details on a specific Buk missile variant?

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I don't think Putin has much choice anymore; there is a far greater risk to Putin if he stops the war now than if he continues it.

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We are going to start calling you Comrade Projection...

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35I don't think Putin has much choice anymore; there is a far greater risk to Putin if he stops the war now than if he continues it.

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Correct, and now he’s got to be the macho man in comparison to Trump. He can’t compromise.

More Grok 3 truth bombs for our little russian fireman

Question
How did Putin win the russian presidential elections with 87.97% of the vote?

Answer:
Vladimir Putin won the Russian presidential election in March 2024 with 87.97% of the vote, according to initial official results, through a combination of tight political control, suppression of opposition, and orchestrated electoral processes. The election, held over three days from March 15-17, was widely criticized as neither free nor fair by independent observers and Western governments. Several factors contributed to this landslide:

First, Putin faced no credible opposition. Serious challengers were systematically eliminated—Alexei Navalny, his most prominent critic, died in prison in February 2024 under suspicious circumstances; others, like Boris Nadezhdin, were barred from running due to alleged irregularities in their candidacy paperwork; and the remaining candidates—Nikolai Kharitonov (Communist Party), Vladislav Davankov (New People), and Leonid Slutsky (Liberal Democratic Party)—were Kremlin-approved figures who avoided criticizing Putin or his policies. These candidates collectively garnered less than 13% of the vote, with Kharitonov at around 4.3%, Davankov at 3.85%, and Slutsky at 3.2%, per official tallies.

Second, the electoral process was heavily manipulated. Independent monitoring was severely restricted—domestic watchdog Golos, labeled a "foreign agent," was banned from observing, and the OSCE declined to participate due to lack of invitation from Russia. Reports of irregularities were rampant, including ballot stuffing, coercion of public sector workers and students to vote, and pressure on voters in occupied Ukrainian territories, where elections were also held illegally under international law. Statistical analyses by independent Russian media, like Novaya Gazeta, estimated fraud on an unprecedented scale, suggesting 22 to 36 million votes (out of 76 million total) may have been falsified. In regions known as "electoral sultanates" (e.g., Tatarstan, Chechnya), turnout and Putin’s vote share routinely exceeded 90%, often approaching 100%, with little regard for plausibility.

Third, the Kremlin leveraged state resources to ensure high turnout and support. Nationwide turnout reached 74.22%, surpassing the 67.5% of 2018, partly due to administrative mobilization—state employees and corporate workers were reportedly required to vote and provide proof, while online voting, introduced for the first time, remained an opaque "black box" impossible to independently verify. Propaganda through state-controlled media portrayed Putin as a unifying figure amid the ongoing war in Ukraine, begun in 2022, framing the election as a patriotic endorsement of his leadership.

Finally, dissent was crushed. Public criticism of Putin or the war was stifled through harsh laws and repression following the Ukraine invasion. Navalny’s death left the opposition leaderless, and his allies’ "Noon Against Putin" protest—encouraging voters to spoil ballots or vote for anyone else at midday on the final day—saw some participation but couldn’t alter the outcome under such controlled conditions. Despite these efforts, the official result, later adjusted to 87.28% by the Central Election Commission, was presented as a mandate, though critics argue it reflects coercion and fabrication rather than genuine support.

In short, Putin’s victory stemmed from eliminating competition, rigging the vote, mobilizing state machinery, and silencing opposition—a formula that ensured an overwhelming, if hollow, triumph.