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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:21 pm to
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So Russia wants peace, but no peacekeepers???

Then all the Russian ptopaganda will be exposed. We will see who really wants peace and who really wants the war to continue.



Do you know how retarded you sound? How about we send China Peacekeepers. They seem more neutral than Europe considering they have not been supplying Tanks and Missles to Russia. 100k China troops for "Peacekeeping" should be ok with Zelensky. If not that means he never really wanted peace
Posted by 94LSU
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:21 pm to
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But after all this how do we get peace?
Stop encroaching on Russian borders with, you know, NATO troops?
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:26 pm to
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But after all this how do we get peace?


The first step is Ukraine and Europe have to acknowledge reality. Those idiots in Europe are still treating Zelensky like a rock star. They need to force him to the negotiating table by saying if you want any continued support this war has to end now. This is what you are going to do. The problem is they are as stupid as he is. They live in a fantasy world.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Do you know how retarded you sound? How about we send China Peacekeepers


Far better than Russian “peacekeepers”.

The problem you guys are having now is after three years of riding Europe for not stepping up, they finally are and now you are deriding that. That’s obvious.

I’ve seen post after post saying it’s a European war, the US needs to stay out.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Stop encroaching on Russian borders with, you know, NATO troops?


In a deal where you have a peacekeeping force both sides have to agree on who they are.

What is Russia’s counter offer?
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Far better than Russian “peacekeepers”.


That is what you are going to have if this war continues. But instead they will be occupiers.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:36 pm to
Russia just sunk a Cargo Ship caring U.K. weapons in Odessa


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Posted by AU86
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:38 pm to
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The problem you guys are having now is after three years of riding Europe for not stepping up, they finally are and now you are deriding that. That’s obvious.



Do you honestly believe they can match what the US has done? Let Europe go down this path, maybe their globalist governments will continue to collapse.

If you do, you.live in a fantasy world.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Do you honestly believe they can match what the US has done?


They are offering to send troops to keep the peace. We are not.

As for aid, I’ve read the aid rendered to date is about even. They are increasing aid and we are lowering our aid.

Of course we could do much more, but that isn’t reality. Trump made that clear. No troops and he is holding back on the aid.

Again I ask you, what do you suggest? Ukraine surrender?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:45 pm to
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That is what you are going to have if this war continues. But instead they will be occupiers.


Yes

And also if Ukraine surrenders.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:45 pm to
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In a deal where you have a peacekeeping force both sides have to agree on who they are.

What is Russia’s counter offer?


In actuality peacekeepers are normally assigned through the UN for a certain period. That is the standard protocol. Russia has a veto.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:47 pm to
Ukraine never should have invaded Russia!
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:49 pm to
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In actuality peacekeepers are normally assigned through the UN for a certain period. That is the standard protocol. Russia has a veto.


That’s fine by me. But what if Rusdia vetoes everybody?

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Yes

And also if Ukraine surrenders.


So you are admitting that will be the final scenario either way. Do you realize what you just said? What about the thousands of dead people and further destruction that could be avoided.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:54 pm to
Belfast factory to supply 5,000 missiles to Ukraine

John Campbell
BBC News NI economics and business editor

The Thales missile factory in Belfast is to supply 5,000 air defence missiles to Ukraine, the Prime Minister has announced.

The deal is worth up to £1.6bn and will involve recruiting 200 additional staff.

Thales is a French-owned company which one of Europe's biggest arms manufacturers.

The order is for lightweight multirole missiles (LMMs) which Ukrainian forces are already using.

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer announced the order as he laid out a four point plan to "reach peace and defend Ukraine".

A £162m contract announced in September last year saw 650 LMMs supplied to Ukraine as an initial order to ramp up production, with the first deliveries in December.

The new order is much bigger: it is worth an initial £1.16bn with the potential for around a further £500m of work to be added in collaboration with a Ukrainian industry partner.

The partner firm will manufacture launchers and command and control vehicles for the missiles in Ukraine.

The UK Ministry of Defence said it is the largest contract ever received by Thales in Belfast.

The Defence Secretary John Healey said the deal would "help protect Ukraine against drone and missile attacks and help deter further Russian aggression following any end to the fighting".

The contract has been placed by the MoD's procurement arm Defence Equipment & Support on behalf of the Ukrainian Government.

BBC
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:54 pm to
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That’s fine by me. But what if Rusdia vetoes everybody?


Then Ukraine is more fricked than anyone with a brain realizes.

I have heard the possibility of Indian troops maybe.
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Those idiots in Europe are still treating Zelensky like a rock star. They need to force him to the negotiating table by saying if you want any continued support this war has to end now.
Way too late for that. Zelensky has proven repeatedly that his word means nothing. He will be removed, Ukraine will surrender and forced to fully demilitarize. The only questions are when and how many more Ukrainians (and now Europeans) have to die first.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/2/25 at 1:59 pm to
Keir Starmer unveils four-point plan for Ukraine peace to present to Donald Trump

Keir Starmer met with 18 leaders in London on Sunday, including Volodymyr Zelensky, to try thrash out a deal to end the war in Ukraine.

First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine now.

“Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine’s sovereignty and security, and Ukraine must be at the table.

Third, in the event of a peace deal, we will keep boosting Ukraine’s own defensive capabilities to deter any future invasion.

“Fourth, we will go further to develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace. Not every nation will feel able to contribute but that can’t mean that we sit back. Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency, the UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others. Europe must do the heavy lifting.”

LINK
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