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Posted on 2/24/25 at 5:25 am to Stinger_1066
Posted on 2/24/25 at 5:38 am to Lee B
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and I would guess the Greens (Grüne) will do as they usually do and partner with SPD, putting them in the coalition with the CDU/CSU... with the AfD serving as a mutual enemy and uniting force.
The CDU under Merkel had effectively drifted over to being centre-left... I wonder where exactly Merz will land it, especially since he's depending on the centre-left parties to form a governing coalition!
Yes, I agree. The Greens did poorly yesterday and will have little leverage in the Bundestag. Their neutral stance on Ukraine and all their crying wolf over US gas prices hurt them.
Right now, many national politicians in Germany are putting in the hardest work of their careers - trying to save their cush jobs in Berlin. The bloated size and cost of the Bundestag forced a complicated downsizing from 735 members to 630 members for this session, so the number of seats for the musical chairs has decreased considerably. The prospect of being forced to go out and actually work for a living is too frightening to behold, so a massive arse-kissing festival is expected to move through Berlin this week.
There will be huge doses of Schadenfreude in seeing the likes of Scholz, Sahra Wagenknecht and indirectly Die Grosse Arschloch Comrade Merkle slink back under their rocks. Green Party Minister Robert Habeck, who drove a €15 billion renewable energy program by closing all nuclear power plants against the advice of... well, like everyone except his tree-hugger party members, will hopefully join that list as well. i could go on with this list but the German press will be deliciously covering it all going forward. Stay tuned campers.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:11 am to Coeur du Tigre
Ukraine's General Staff confirms attack by intelligence drones on oil refinery in Russia's Ryazan
Ukrainska Pravda — Monday, 24 February 2025, 10:34
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has confirmed that drones of Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) struck the Ryazan Oil Refinery in Russia on the night of 23-24 February.
Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Telegram
Quote: "Units of the Unmanned Systems Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and DIU in cooperation with other components of the defence forces struck the Ryazan oil refinery in the Ryazan Oblast on the night of 23-24 February 2025, which is involved in supplying the Russian occupation army."
Details: According to the General Staff, five explosions were recorded in the area of the Ryazan refinery. A fire broke out within the ELOU AT-6 primary oil refining unit. The aftermath is being confirmed.
In addition, General Staff reported that units of Ukraine's Unmanned Systems Forces attacked an oil depot on 23 January, causing a fire in the area of the 8 March plant in Tula Oblast of the Russian Federation.
Ukrainska Pravda
Ukrainska Pravda — Monday, 24 February 2025, 10:34
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has confirmed that drones of Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) struck the Ryazan Oil Refinery in Russia on the night of 23-24 February.
Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Telegram
Quote: "Units of the Unmanned Systems Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and DIU in cooperation with other components of the defence forces struck the Ryazan oil refinery in the Ryazan Oblast on the night of 23-24 February 2025, which is involved in supplying the Russian occupation army."
Details: According to the General Staff, five explosions were recorded in the area of the Ryazan refinery. A fire broke out within the ELOU AT-6 primary oil refining unit. The aftermath is being confirmed.
In addition, General Staff reported that units of Ukraine's Unmanned Systems Forces attacked an oil depot on 23 January, causing a fire in the area of the 8 March plant in Tula Oblast of the Russian Federation.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:26 am to cypher
Posted on 2/24/25 at 6:51 am to Coeur du Tigre
The Green Party was originally funded by the USSR.
It was shocking to me that they supported Ukraine. They've been for anything that helps Germany with energy, including big anti "fracking" even though the technique has been used in Germany's limestone formations for decades. Very large reserves of oil and gas bearing shale straddles the French/German border.
As for the AfD it is a predominant in former East Germany which is not exactly productive part of the nation. Dow Chemical bought a chemical complex there built by the commies and spent a fortune cleaning up that environmental disaster. It got rid of the plant a decade later, meant to be a crown jewel of its European operations. The engineer who was head of that cleanup was appointed head of the Union Carbide Demolition project which was to remove all of the idle process units in former Union Carbide plants after the merger. Dude was a dumbass all he did was hire URS (Feinstein's husband owned a controlling interest) to provide assessment and scope at each location. At least at the Taft, LA complex the most FUBAR scope I've ever witnessed which was the only walk through I made. I was told by all other bidders that it was worse by a lot everywhere else, mainly at Texas City and in West Virginia. Neither the engineer nor the URS dudes knew the difference in stainless steel and carbon steel. Yes, the engineer was East German.
It was shocking to me that they supported Ukraine. They've been for anything that helps Germany with energy, including big anti "fracking" even though the technique has been used in Germany's limestone formations for decades. Very large reserves of oil and gas bearing shale straddles the French/German border.
As for the AfD it is a predominant in former East Germany which is not exactly productive part of the nation. Dow Chemical bought a chemical complex there built by the commies and spent a fortune cleaning up that environmental disaster. It got rid of the plant a decade later, meant to be a crown jewel of its European operations. The engineer who was head of that cleanup was appointed head of the Union Carbide Demolition project which was to remove all of the idle process units in former Union Carbide plants after the merger. Dude was a dumbass all he did was hire URS (Feinstein's husband owned a controlling interest) to provide assessment and scope at each location. At least at the Taft, LA complex the most FUBAR scope I've ever witnessed which was the only walk through I made. I was told by all other bidders that it was worse by a lot everywhere else, mainly at Texas City and in West Virginia. Neither the engineer nor the URS dudes knew the difference in stainless steel and carbon steel. Yes, the engineer was East German.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:12 am to Stinger_1066
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He offered to resign for something unattainable. His offer is worthless.
Go tell Ttump that he is wasting his time. Peace between Russia and Ukraine is unattainable.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:12 am to doubleb
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I know it’s complicated, but here is what Webster’s says;
You're dense. But thats predictable coming from someone who can't answer a yes or no question.
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It doesn’t say anything about getting land back, but you can continue to make up stuff if you so choose.
I'm not making up anything. I said we have to know what his definition is, because I guarantee you that he has some ideas about what a peace for Ukraine looks like that has nothing to do with tranquility or any of that bullshite.
Do you believe Ukraine can have a peace without concrete security guarantees? Because I know Zelensky doesn't. Nor should he, thats an understandable ask.
I am simply asking what else does he want in order to resign (because like the OU fan said, he could just do it and he hasn't. Why is that?) and also stating that if his asks are unrealistic then the offer wasn't made in good faith. We don't know that for sure, which is why I want to know what his definition of peace is.
I know this stuff is hard for you, but you'll catch up eventually,
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:12 am to doubleb
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Go tell Ttump that he is wasting his time. Peace between Russia and Ukraine is unattainable.
You understanding basic concepts is unattainable
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:21 am to cypher
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"Are you ready to resign as President if it means peace for Ukraine?"
"Yes, if it means peace for Ukraine. Or I can exchange it for joining NATO," - President Zelenskyy.
This is the version from the Gerashchenko tweet. CNN has a different version of this quoute.
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“If (it guarantees) peace for Ukraine, if you really need me to resign, I am ready. I can exchange it for NATO.”
No "or" before the NATO bit. So if the CNN quote is correct, he is only offering to resign if it gets NATO membership.
Seems different outlets have different versions.
ABC:
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"If for peace for Ukraine, it's truly necessary for you that I leave my post, I am ready," Zelenskyy replied to Pannell asking if he was prepared to step down it if could help peace. "We can exchange it for NATO membership. If those are the terms, then let's do it without delay.
That also is implying he would do it only for NATO membership.
Maybe some outlets were just lazily quoting him and left the "or" out, but it changes the meaning of this by quite a bit if the ABC and CNN versions are accurate.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:27 am to doubleb
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Go tell Ttump that he is wasting his time. Peace between Russia and Ukraine is unattainable.
Peace? Yeah, probably.
But again, you don't get what American First means.
Trump's primary goal is to get America out of this mess, while at the same time finding some mutually agreeable solution.
All Trump needs is for Cargo Pants to throw him a realistic bone.
But instead, the only thing Cargo Pants does is insult Trump and offer up unattainable concessions.
At some point Trump will have no choice other than to say "I tried", pull out, and tell Putin to have at it. Then it will be up to the Europeans to wear the albatross around their neck alone.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:29 am to CitizenK
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The Green Party was originally funded by the USSR.
It was shocking to me that they supported Ukraine.
I've found that foreign groups who supported or were supported by the USSR aren't attached to the country itself, its the ideology.
Whereas for Russians its about the country itself, empire, power (or at least perceived power) etc.
There was a faction of the IRA that would have had Ireland be to the UK what Cuba was to us for a long time. They supported and were supported by the USSR. A lot of IRA factions got weapons from the USSR but didn't necessarily support them.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:29 am to StormyMcMan
Random tweets
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In reference to prisoners
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??Ukraine and the US are in the final stage of negotiations on a mineral agreement, writes Deputy Prime Minister Olha Stefanishyna.
According to her, the meeting with the Americans "was very constructive and almost all key details have been agreed".
At the same time, the head of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Foreign Policy Merezhko noted that the agreement with the States must comply with the Constitution, otherwise it will be invalid.
LINK
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Zelenskyy stated that Ukraine is ready for an "all-for-all" exchange, emphasizing that this is a fair option and an important step toward restoring trust - trust that Russia has completely lost.
"Such a step could lead to the release of thousands of Ukrainians held in Russia, some of whom have been in captivity not only since 2022 but since 2014." - the President said at the Support Ukraine conference.
In reference to prisoners
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British Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced the UK’s largest military aid package to date during a televised remote speech before Ukrainian and European Union (EU) decision-makers. The package, valued at $5.6 billion, has been announced alongside additional sanctions from both the EU and the UK against Russian and Chinese entities and frameworks that support the Russian war effort in Ukraine. Additionally, Prime Minister Starmer reiterated past statements that he is willing to put troops on the ground in Ukraine, but caveated his statement by adding that the right conditions must be in place and such a move must be done in concert with other European powers.
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??Details of the EU sanctions package:
??13 russian banks will be disconnected from SWIFT,
??73 ships will be subject to sanctions,
??53 companies and individuals,
??8 russian media outlets will be banned from broadcasting and aluminum imports will be banned.
Australia and the UK have also announced the largest sanctions packages against russia in three years.
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The US sent a letter to UN members urging them to vote for US version of the resolution, where the war is called a conflict and Russia is not an aggressor.
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JUST IN
Trump Orders Shutdown of U.S. Military Base in Greece
Greek media reports that President Trump has ordered the closure of the U.S. military base in Alexandroupoli, following a joint request from Putin and Erdogan.
The base, a key NATO logistical hub, had been a point of contention, particularly with Turkey.
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BREAKING
Bloomberg: U.S. to Pledge Support for a “Free, Sovereign, and Secure” Ukraine in Upcoming Minerals Deal, Draft Text Reveals.
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According to Ukrainian media, Putin held a phone conversation today with Chinese leader Xi Jinping.
Kremlin stated that China supports Russia-U.S. dialogue on finding "ways to peacefully resolve" the war. The two sides also reportedly agreed to strengthen cooperation in various fields, including economy and trade, investment, culture, education, and sports.
The call took place against the backdrop of visits by European and Canadian leaders to Kyiv on the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion.
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BREAKING
National Security Advisor Mike Waltz Rules Out U.S. Troop Deployment to Ukraine After Peace Deal and NATO Membership.
“That is not back on the table. I do not see the United States allowing Ukraine to join NATO and then having U.S. troops immediately obligated under Article 5 for Ukraine’s defense.”
“That is a very different scenario, and I want to be clear on that. We have President Macron coming, and we have Prime Minister Starmer of the United Kingdom coming, but that is distinct from the U.S. commitment to NATO and its existing member states.”
“We are absolutely committed to NATO as a whole and to our Article 5 treaty obligations with member countries. However, security guarantees for Ukraine are a separate discussion.”
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EXCLUSIVE:
The US will commit to a “free, sovereign and secure” Ukraine and a “lasting peace” as part of a minerals deal that now appears imminent, according to a recent draft text seen by Bloomberg
US will agree a “durable partnership” between Washington and Kyiv, texts shows
US will signal intent to invest in Ukraine
US will also say those who “acted adversely” to Ukraine in the war should not “benefit from its reconstruction”
Ukraine’s Deputy PM Olha Stefanishyna says the minerals deal is in the “final stages”
Person familiar says a new draft has almost been agreed and is awaiting a reply from the US
Text still not final and subject to change
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:32 am to Stinger_1066
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But again, you don't get what American First means.
Trump's primary goal is to get America out of this mess, while at the same time finding some mutually agreeable solution.
All Trump needs is for Cargo Pants to throw him a realistic bone.
But instead, the only thing Cargo Pants does is insult Trump and offer up unattainable concessions.
At some point Trump will have no choice other than to say "I tried", pull out, and tell Putin to have at it. Then it will be up to the Europeans to wear the albatross around their neck alone.
I think its funny that people don't understand that 'America First' means that yes, some other places won't get X thing from us anymore and that will be bad for them, thats a feature not a bug. Trump's job is to pick and choose (hopefully with a lot of help from what I think is a pretty good team around him) which things aren't worth it for the US to be helping with.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:36 am to Stinger_1066
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You pro-Z-Man bros should read this:
Does he discuss Russia trying to assassinate the future Ukrainian President yuschenko via poisoning in 2004? No? Shocking. Didn’t think so. Not interested in BRICS apologists.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 7:44 am to StormyMcMan
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Ukraine and the US are in the final stage of negotiations on a mineral agreement, writes Deputy Prime Minister Olha Stefanishyna.
This likely has to be passed by Ukraine's legislature.
My big question is which company(s) have the rights to this. We know that before the 2014 invasion by Russia, rights to oil/gas were held by Shell, Exxon and Chevron which cancelled their deals in 2014. Shell has the Donbas, Chevron had Crimea and offshore, Exxon has west of the Dnipro to explore and develop. Onshore was tight shale formations to be developed. Ukraine once had a lot of reserves of conventional oil/gas which have been mostly depleted over time. Shale formations are the souce of all oil and gas previously produced in the world.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:27 am to Coeur du Tigre
You losers are now having to pin your hopes on Germany. Desperate. Still panic posting. You and Keith are circle jerking at the thought.
Their economy is shot and their military is a joke.
BTW: that statement that you made about the AfD not getting 20% didn't age well did it? I believe that you said 19.5.
They got almost 21%.
Their economy is shot and their military is a joke.
BTW: that statement that you made about the AfD not getting 20% didn't age well did it? I believe that you said 19.5.
They got almost 21%.
This post was edited on 2/24/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:58 am to VolSquatch
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know this stuff is hard for you, but you'll catch up eventually,
You have to be a lawyer, or you just like to argue.
It’s not complicated, Zekensky said he would resign if it brought peace or if it got Ukraine in NATO. Withall the recent talk of him being a dictator and an obstacle to peace, I believe offering to resign is smart.
And it’s not hard to imagine a deal where Ukraine retreats ftom Kursk, Crimea becomes Russian and the battle lines in Eastetn Ukraine become the new boundary and all hostilities cease. And Zelensjy would resign and new elections would be held.
But keep playing the troll, keep playing word games, and keep agitating posters. It seems to be your hobby.
Meanwhile, I’m watching to see how Trump reacts.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:00 am to cypher
Posted on 2/24/25 at 9:01 am to doubleb
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It’s not complicated, Zekensky said he would resign if it brought peace or if it got Ukraine in NATO. Withall the recent talk of him being a dictator and an obstacle to peace, I believe offering to resign is smart.
And if thats all it is, then thats great!
I'm simply asking if there are other conditions that he considers necessary for their to be "peace".
I already laid out one, security guarantees. Do you think he would resign if he did not get any security guarantees in a "peace" deal? Can you answer that question?
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But keep playing the troll, keep playing word games, and keep agitating posters. It seems to be your hobby.
One of my posts is more insightful than any 10 of yours, so if I'm trolling I'm doing a bad job of it.
Glad you're agitated though, because I really don't mind agitating dishonest actors.
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