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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:45 am to
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"It is an absolute priority to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible, so that we achieve independence from the US, step by step."



That's a big score for Trump. EU's military parasitism in NATO is coming to an end.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:47 am to
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Chancellor Merz


Pro tranny, pro Covid passport, pro Muslim immigration. Of course you’d be a huge fan!
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 10:57 am to
I thought for a few minutes you were being truthful. Shame on me.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:06 am to
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I thought for a few minutes you were being truthful. Shame on me.


I am always truthful. We have cold hard facts of deaths on the Russian side from actual death records at 95k. Say there is bodies that have not been recovered at 50% which would be high but still get close to the actual 150k number I estimated. Show some actual data besides fantasy numbers for the 867k number. We know those numbers are complete fantasy even if you wanted to include KIA/WIA because losing that many men would mean the War is over
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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:12 am to
The document was supported by 93 states.

The United States, Russia, Belarus, Israel, and several other countries voted against it.

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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:28 am to
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The Green Party was originally funded by the USSR.

It was shocking to me that they supported Ukraine. They've been for anything that helps Germany with energy, including big anti "fracking" even though the technique has been used in Germany's limestone formations for decades. Very large reserves of oil and gas bearing shale straddles the French/German border.


A friend who's a Brit ex-pat here always tells me "you can't get a read on the rest of the world's politics using the US lens... I mean, Britain is a Socialist country, so even Tories like my Dad are to the left of the Democrats on most things."

The German Left of the past was defined by friendliness to the USSR/East Germany and friendliness to Communism and opposition to Capitalism.

The German Right of the past was defined by defense of Capitalism and opposition to Communism and the USSR/East Germany.

All of them were Socialist.

Now... the German Right is pro-Russia/Putin and Euroskeptic... the Centre-Right and Centre-Left are almost the same and pro-European... The German Left is kind of confused and doesn't know what it's supposed to be, exactly...

The Greens might've been bankrolled by the USSR, initially, but now they are the affluent urban and college-town types. They like the Centre parties get their hands dirty with dependance on Russian natural gas and then could pursue their environmentally-driven stuff based on that being in place. When that gas got shut off... they're kind of rudderless... solar makes little sense in a place that's overcast most of the year.

Western Europe as a whole was a little too eager to want to think that post-Soviet Russia would play nice and become like other European countries if they just helped its wealth, and of course, Germany took this as far as it could be taken. And got screwed.

The AfD would've been a far-Left party in the past... now they're a far-Right party. As pointed out, they're kind of a regional party that is nostalgic for Communism that they're remembering as Nationalist Socialism.

But one thing I've seen is that AfD votes were actually enabled by the CDU being so securely out front in polls before the election, because it became a safe protest vote. Weidel did not win the seat in her own area... Scholdtz won his... that hints that it allowed a lot of people to send a message without having to deal with anything actually resulting from it.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:37 am to
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But one thing I've seen is that AfD votes were actually enabled by the CDU being so securely out front in polls before the election,


You literally cope and make excuses for every subject you are wrong about Nothing will change in Germany while the CDU and SPD coalition government locks out the Afd. The Afd will be perfectly positioned in 2029

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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:37 am to
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The Green Party was originally funded by the USSR.

It was shocking to me that they supported Ukraine.


I've found that foreign groups who supported or were supported by the USSR aren't attached to the country itself, its the ideology.

Whereas for Russians its about the country itself, empire, power (or at least perceived power) etc.

There was a faction of the IRA that would have had Ireland be to the UK what Cuba was to us for a long time. They supported and were supported by the USSR. A lot of IRA factions got weapons from the USSR but didn't necessarily support them.


And the USSR just funded anything that stirred shite up for the West
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:43 am to
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You losers are now having to pin your hopes on Germany. Desperate. Still panic posting. You and Keith are circle jerking at the thought.

Their economy is shot and their military is a joke.



BTW: that statement that you made about the AfD not getting 20% didn't age well did it? I believe that you said 19.5.

They got almost 21%.




And they have no power in the government and are a pariah.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:50 am to
Major Economic Deal Between Russia and the US


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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:59 am to
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with the US possibly siding with Russia and China against a western European-backed show of support for Kyiv.


Metternich-Lindbergh Theory, again

and here's David Brooks in the first 2 minutes of this stating it even more crudely as Trump's worldview/aim: "Russia having hegemony over its region, the US having hegemony over our region, and China having hegemony over its region. Three ruthless mafioso nations. And anything that stands in the way of ruthless mafiosos is being eliminated."

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41414 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:02 pm to
This war is effectively over. Imagine being a Russian or Uke in the final weeks getting killed over nothing. Sad
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:02 pm to
Any Comments on Trump’s statement about a major Economic Deal with Russia? President Trump is showing you Ukrainian Bros how to properly lead
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:06 pm to
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We all get who decides but the idea that Ukraine has an easy path to NATO membership even with US support is simply not true. 3 road blocks being Hungary, Slovakia and Turkey.

It was actually Ukraine joining the EU which drew Russia's ire. The fact is that Ukraine cleaning up its act enough to join the EU would mean that Russian fomented corruption would be gone as would its influence in Ukraine.


1000%.

And to make it worse, Russians could drive over on the weekends and gauge how much better the EU is than Russia's system. Another reason for Russia increasingly trying to cause trouble for the Baltic states, too, which are improving quickly... except for the Ethnic Russian populations, according to things I've read...

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:10 pm to
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New German Chancellor Merz is Anti US. No surprise considering he worked for Blackrock. He is a globalist puppet so he will be against President Trump. This is a War against President Trump. Trump vs The Globalist/Deepstate


He is maybe Anti-Trump, not Anti-US (as most of the free world will be in short irder because he acts like a jerk to them)... but his statement is that Europe cannot depend on the US under Trump to be an ally... and where is the lie in that statement?

I saw something about Canada considering EU membership, now, because of Trump... also gaming out how to deliver its oil to other markets instead of the US.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3191 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:11 pm to
So the leader of Poland is named Donald Tusk, and the leader of Germany is named Fred Mertz?!

I insist these two get into a conflict, because that's hilarious.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:12 pm to
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"After the latest statements made by Donald Trump last week, it is clear, that the Americans — at any case these Americans, this administration — mostly don't care about the fate of Europe one way or another."

"It is an absolute priority to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible, so that we achieve independence from the US, step by step."



Also, you guys keep saying this is what you want, and that Trump is awesome for forcing it...

So why are you complaining when the result is what you desired?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:18 pm to
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That's a big score for Trump.


Yeah... I thought this was what MAGA wanted? Now I'm starting to think that meant "being defenseless so Putin could just roll over them."

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EU's military parasitism in NATO is coming to an end.


You have to remember that we (the US) actually wanted things the way they were, no matter what we sometimes might've said for US domestic consumption... we wanted weak individual states in Europe dependent on/subservient to us as the big boss... Also, not a single damned person on this planet until maybe 20 years ago wanted a militarily strong Germany (or Japan).
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 2/24/25 at 12:21 pm to
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quote:
Chancellor Merz


Pro tranny, pro Covid passport, pro Muslim immigration. Of course you’d be a huge fan!


Once again... Putin and oppressive despotism is preferable to "Woke?"

You guys are not advocates of freedom and liberty. You want complete social control.
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