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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:29 am to doubleb
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:29 am to doubleb
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I’m part of the pro Ukranian crowd, and I want to keep supporting Ukraine as long as they are willing to fight for their freedom from Russian domination.
Are you donating out of your own pocket, or are you relying on theft through taxation to maintain the funding?
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Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:36 am to Stinger_1066
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Are you donating out of your own pocket, or are you relying on theft through taxation to maintain the funding?
I pay a lot of taxes out of my own pocket.
Taxation isn’t stealing. It just seems that way.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:38 am to Stinger_1066
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pro-USAID bros
I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump set up a similar organization to USAID. The stated mission is a good one.
Its also clear that its reach far exceeds its intended scope to the point where its broken beyond repair.
Those who are screeching about the need to preserve it in its current state should lose any and all credibility. I can get on board with someone who acknowledges the reality of USAID and wants to remake it with tighter restrictions.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:42 am to doubleb
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Taxation isn’t stealing. It just seems that way.
It is when it is used to fill the pockets of foreign despots like Z-Man, and US politicians like Dementia Joe.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:44 am to doubleb
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I’m part of the pro Ukranian crowd, and I want to keep supporting Ukraine as long as they are willing to fight for their freedom from Russian domination.
I think an issue with statements like that is that there is a lot of room for interpretation.
What if Ukraine wants to keep fighting but Russia offers them a realistic deal? Like I guess "best case scenario" deal would be a good way to put it. But Zelensky says that isn't good enough and wants to continue and take his chances...... do you still want to send them money and weapons? I wouldn't want to.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:57 am to VolSquatch
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What if Ukraine wants to keep fighting but Russia offers them a realistic deal? Like I guess "best case scenario" deal would be a good way to put it. But Zelensky says that isn't good enough and wants to continue and take his chances...... do you still want to send them money and weapons? I wouldn't want to.
I think there’s a point where I would say enough is enough. I wouldn’t give them a blank check.
And this is where Trump comes in. I trust him to tell Z when enough is enough.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:58 am to Stinger_1066
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There was one guy a couple of days ago trying to convince us that USAID was small potatoes, but in the very same post he said cutting it off would "ruin the country and the world". That made absolutely no sense.
You're too dumb to understand it.
It is roughly half of 1% of the Federal Budget... but the results it yields are creating pro-US governments and sentiment around the world, as opposed to pro-Putin and pro-China governments and sentiment.
But since you support Trump bullying and alienating our allies, anyway, that won't make sense to you.
And alienating the rest of the world makes it a more dangerous world... the delusion that we can just sit here and hermetically seal ourselves and not get the blowback from what else goes on should have been shattered with Pearl Harbor.
And that's without having to protect Greenland and our new territory in Gaza, which I'm sure will NEVER have an terrorist activity directed at it, right?
Trump is senile at this point and never has been one to think ahead in the least bit.
Elon... is an opportunist pursuing his own agenda, and I can't say I get what that agenda is, unless he really is some Bond villain who wants to accelerate the destruction of America and the world so there's an apocalyptic event and he can seed to future of humanity with his own DNA safely from his secure compound in Texas, or on Mars.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:00 am to Stinger_1066
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For all you pro-USAID bros:
This is what our President thinks of you:
Your President is getting his arse kicked in courts on this one.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:05 am to doubleb
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Boom
Hammer meet nail.
Trump and Musk lie about their "evidence," though... but you guys will not investigate that...
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:23 am to Lee B
quote:Here's part of the list.
russian military pilots and their families are panicking. Ukrainian journalists who conducted an independent investigation found and declassified the classified documents of military pilots, military unit 75715, who carried out strikes on Ukrainian civilians. Names, surnames, ranks, social media profiles, photos, posted all the information in the public domain on the Internet, right down to the addresses of their families. They report that the families of the russian pilots raised a howl when they found out that they were exposed: "They will find us and kill us all."
quote:Yes, home addresses for all of them as well. Should be fun.
Alexander [Kapsha, currently the Acting Commander of the unit and Acting Chief of the Engels Air Base.] uses the password "meinkampf1488" and is also a user of the site sexclub.ru. Address: Saratov Region, Engels, St. Odesa, bldg. 83, sq. 109
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:29 am to Coeur du Tigre
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uses the password "meinkampf1488"
This can't be real
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:32 am to cypher
another gift for Putin...
U.S. funding freeze threatens Ukraine investigations of alleged Russian war crimes
By Anthony Deutsch and Dan Peleschuk
February 10, 20259:24 AM CST
Summary
Funding freeze affects $89 million in U.S.-backed projects
Nearly 40 experts halted work due to funding issues
Ukrainian NGOs seek alternative funding amid budget cuts
THE HAGUE/KYIV, Feb 10 (Reuters) - The Trump administration's freeze of foreign funding has begun impacting an international effort to hold Russia responsible for alleged war crimes in Ukraine, according to eight sources and a Ukrainian document seen by Reuters, halting dozens of jobs and tens of millions of dollars in aid.
Ukraine has opened more than 140,000 war crime cases since Moscow's February 2022 invasion, which has killed tens of thousands, ravaged vast swathes of the country and left behind mental and physical scars from occupation. Russia consistently denies war crimes have been committed by its forces in the conflict.
Reuters
U.S. funding freeze threatens Ukraine investigations of alleged Russian war crimes
By Anthony Deutsch and Dan Peleschuk
February 10, 20259:24 AM CST
Summary
Funding freeze affects $89 million in U.S.-backed projects
Nearly 40 experts halted work due to funding issues
Ukrainian NGOs seek alternative funding amid budget cuts
THE HAGUE/KYIV, Feb 10 (Reuters) - The Trump administration's freeze of foreign funding has begun impacting an international effort to hold Russia responsible for alleged war crimes in Ukraine, according to eight sources and a Ukrainian document seen by Reuters, halting dozens of jobs and tens of millions of dollars in aid.
Ukraine has opened more than 140,000 war crime cases since Moscow's February 2022 invasion, which has killed tens of thousands, ravaged vast swathes of the country and left behind mental and physical scars from occupation. Russia consistently denies war crimes have been committed by its forces in the conflict.
Reuters
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 10:34 am
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:43 am to Stinger_1066
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It is when it is used to fill the pockets of foreign despots like Z-Man, and US politicians like Dementia Joe.
That’s not stealing from me, that would be stealing from the country. If they are caught, I say lock em up.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:47 am to doubleb
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:52 am to John Barron
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:02 am to Lee B
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but the results it yields are creating pro-US governments and sentiment around the world
Recent examples?
World opinion of the US has been in the toilet since Bush Jr if not before that.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:43 am to cypher
As US cuts Ukraine funding, EU's lending arm steps in with nearly 1 billion euros in investments
by Liliane Bivings February 10, 2025 7:03 PM
The European Union's lending arm, the European Investment Bank (EIB), has signed agreements to mobilize close to 1 billion euros ($1.03 billion) in investments into Ukraine’s public and private sectors as the U.S. moves to cut funding to development projects in the country.
U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to freeze all foreign assistance has cast uncertainty on the future of projects in Ukraine in nearly every sector, from critical infrastructure to civil society development.
Nadia Calvino, the EIB's president, said at a press briefing on Feb. 10 that she had discussed Ukraine’s urgent funding needs with Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal to see where the bank could fill the gaps if international partners withdraw their support.
"We discussed the priority areas where the EIB could step up its support — for example, in the areas of border management, transport, energy, and municipalities," Calvino said in Kyiv during her first visit to the country since taking up office as head of the EIB a year ago.
"We’re working very closely with the government to finance the necessary investments to rebuild, repair, and make national infrastructure more resilient," she said.
The investment announced on Feb. 10 includes 420 million euros ($433 million) in Ukraine’s public sector to help restore critical infrastructure such as energy, heating, water supply, hospitals, schools, and social housing.
On the private sector side, the bank has signed an agreement to mobilize close to 500 million euros ($515 million) in financing for small and medium-sized businesses throughout the whole country, including in front-line regions, Calvino said.
The Kyiv Independent
by Liliane Bivings February 10, 2025 7:03 PM
The European Union's lending arm, the European Investment Bank (EIB), has signed agreements to mobilize close to 1 billion euros ($1.03 billion) in investments into Ukraine’s public and private sectors as the U.S. moves to cut funding to development projects in the country.
U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to freeze all foreign assistance has cast uncertainty on the future of projects in Ukraine in nearly every sector, from critical infrastructure to civil society development.
Nadia Calvino, the EIB's president, said at a press briefing on Feb. 10 that she had discussed Ukraine’s urgent funding needs with Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal to see where the bank could fill the gaps if international partners withdraw their support.
"We discussed the priority areas where the EIB could step up its support — for example, in the areas of border management, transport, energy, and municipalities," Calvino said in Kyiv during her first visit to the country since taking up office as head of the EIB a year ago.
"We’re working very closely with the government to finance the necessary investments to rebuild, repair, and make national infrastructure more resilient," she said.
The investment announced on Feb. 10 includes 420 million euros ($433 million) in Ukraine’s public sector to help restore critical infrastructure such as energy, heating, water supply, hospitals, schools, and social housing.
On the private sector side, the bank has signed an agreement to mobilize close to 500 million euros ($515 million) in financing for small and medium-sized businesses throughout the whole country, including in front-line regions, Calvino said.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:48 am to doubleb
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That’s not stealing from me, that would be stealing from the country. If they are caught, I say lock em up.
I agree. But there would have to be proof... not just someone insisting they know it's happening... and there's never proof when real scrutiny is applied.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:57 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Yes, home addresses for all of them as well. Should be fun.
Publishing the addresses of family members
But remember, they are the good guys here
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:04 pm to VolSquatch
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Recent examples?
World opinion of the US has been in the toilet since Bush Jr if not before that.
W Bush and The Project For A New American Century burned through the goodwill of the world and inside this country... let's face it, most Republicans hate them as much as the farthest Left at this point. They broke the country... and at the time trying to point that out just got you attacked by the same people now screaming that they were awful.
from 2024, under Biden
If you know any people from France or Canada or Australia, those results are no surprise to you... they think we're “obnoxious, unsophisticated yahoos...”and contraliarly to how we probably think of Canadians and Australians, they mostly live in concentrated urban megacities (90% of the Canadian population lives below Seattle, WA, in that pocket of the Great Lakes region) and there's barely any "rural" populations in both places because it's just too isolated of an existence.
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