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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:45 am to
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Ukraine Strikes Deep into russian Territory with the Storm Shadow Missiles, the Target Is Suspected Buried Presidential Command Post

The strike reportedly occurred near the historic estate of the Baryatinsky family, now a sanatorium under the Administrative Directorate of the President of the russian Federation. Speculation suggests that a deeply buried military command post, potentially serving as a communications hub, was the primary target. The area’s strategic value, particularly with the presence of North Korean forces in the region, raises the possibility of high-profile military personnel, possibly even North Korean generals, being present at the site.

The use of the Storm Shadow missiles in this context is significant. These precision-guided weapons, equipped with the BROACH-type warheads, are specifically designed for hardened targets. The warhead employs a two-stage system: an initial shaped charge breaches the structure, followed by a fragmentation-explosive warhead to destroy interior defenses. This capability has previously been demonstrated in strikes on fortified command posts, such as the russian Black Sea Fleet’s reserve command post in Verkhnosadove.

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Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:46 am to
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Can the Russia bros
What an effing ignorant premise. Sorry, but that is just base stupid.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:51 am to
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Imagine saying this with a straight face


That’s almost as bad as a three day military operation.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:05 pm to



Would North Korea Really Send 100,000 Troops to Fight in Ukraine?

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Could North Korea Beef Up Russia with Another 100,000 Troops?: You may have seen photos of Russia’s Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong Un grinning profusely while shaking hands during the announcement of a new joint defense pact.



As a result, Kim has already sent at least 10,000 North Korean troops to Russia who have deployed to the Kursk region of western Russia for a counter-offensive against Ukrainian forces there.

But the 10,000 soldiers could be a drop in the bucket. One report from the G20 group of nations claims that Kim might have plans to send a whopping 100,000 of his troops to Russia.

What happens if this comes to pass? How could such a move change the outcome of the Ukraine war?


https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/would-north-korea-really-send-100000-troops-to-fight-in-ukraine/
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3957 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:05 pm to
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That’s almost as bad as a three day military operation.


Curious... do you think the US military would just wade into long-term trench warfare, there?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:12 pm to
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What an effing ignorant premise. Sorry, but that is just base stupid.


I get called a Ukraine bro every day, so I'm sorry, but them's the rules
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139666 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I get called a Ukraine bro every day
Are you?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21020 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:22 pm to
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How would you describe it?

Is it a provocation? Is it significant? Is it largely a nothingburger?

And based on that, how much increased risk is posed to the US and her interests as a result of that answer?


The anti-personnel mines and ATACMS permissions will have an impact, but they aren't gamechangers in and of themselves. It's similar to when we first authorized armored vehicles to be sent to Ukraine, or when we authorized F-16s, or when we sent cluster munitions (each of which also faced the same duality of claims). These kinds of aid have a cumulative effect.

The greatest risk in this conflict, by far, has always come from a Russian victory that would strengthen the CRINKs alliance against us (China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea).
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
26800 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:31 pm to
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In Trump's case, after he blew through the money he inherited and he was too toxic for banks to to touch in the 90s,


Everything in real estate was toxic in those days.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16087 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:42 pm to
Chinese vessel reportedly has a Russian captain via other sources

LINK

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:56 pm to
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Can the Russia bros decide whether giving Ukraine mines and ATACMS permission is:

1) Meaningless and will have zero impact on Russia's imminent victory, or

2) An extraordinary escalation that will result in WWIII?


It would be really nice if y'all would pick. Thx.


3) A sign Ukraine is losing
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 12:57 pm to
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I get called a Ukraine bro every day,


Gee, I wonder why that is?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21020 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Gee, I wonder why that is?



Because I support the security interests of the United States from idiots who want a world dominated by our enemies?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:09 pm to
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3) A sign Ukraine is losing


If that’s the case what does 20,000 NK regulars shipping out to Russia mean?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5722 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:12 pm to
video of SCALP strike on russian command bunker
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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:13 pm to
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If that’s the case what does 20,000 NK regulars shipping out to Russia mean?



That would be a sign they are losing as well, if we didn't know about everything else going on in the last 6 months
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42746 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:17 pm to
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That would be a sign they are losing as well, if we didn't know about everything else going on in the last 6 months


Thank you
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:26 pm to
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Because I support the security interests of the United States from idiots who want a world dominated by our enemies?



How exactly would Russia be any closer to dominating the global pecking order even if they took the entire country? Be specific.

I'm actually interested to hear someone explain how them taking territory that they controlled within most of our lifetimes, not even that long ago, is going to tip the geopolitical scales.

The USSR at its peak wasn't even close to as strong as the US has been post-WW2 until present. They held a lot more territory than they do right now, including Ukraine.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Because I support the security interests of the United States from idiots who want a world dominated by our enemies?




Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Anybody who followed W Bush and wasn't an aggressive NEOCON was going to be a Nobel Prize-winning international hero. McCain even probably would've gotten it...


Hey Leon.

You praise that worthless prick Obama for not being a Neocon. Yet here you are lusting for war and ignoring death and suffering.

Of course you guys love those neocons now don't you?
Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney, John Bolton, John McCain, Bill Kristol.

Oh boy. Pack your shite for Lithuania. They can make you a general with some of your homies here while you whip Ivan in 1.5 days.
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