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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:55 am to doubleb
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:55 am to doubleb
quote:Why? Russia and Putin are pure distilled evil. Right?
But you can back Ukraine and not advocate direct US involvement.
If Ukraine falls so will all of Europe. Putin will conquer it all, starting with Poland. Right? I'm pretty sure those are positions espoused here.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
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Why? Russia and Putin are pure distilled evil. Right? If Ukraine falls so will all of Europe. Putin will conquer it all, starting with Poland. Right? I'm pretty sure those are positions espoused here.
I’ve made my position clear.
But I do agree with you about Putin and Russia’s government, they are evil.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:15 am to doubleb
quote:
But I do agree with you about Putin and Russia’s government, they are evil.
Agreed. Is Zelensky and the top brass in Ukraine any different?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:18 am to BugAC
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Agreed. Is Zelensky and the top brass in Ukraine any different?
A lot different. They haven’t started any wars.
There is no discussion.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:31 am to StormyMcMan
We gave our blessing to land mines, which is barbaric.
We are the USA - we are necessarily held to higher standards than third world shitholes
We are the USA - we are necessarily held to higher standards than third world shitholes
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:32 am to doubleb
Zelenskyy is filth
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:38 am to SirWinston
US Defense Secretary explains decision to send anti-personnel mines to Ukraine
Khrystyna Bondarieva — Wednesday, 20 November 2024, 16:00
The Biden administration’s decision to send anti-personnel mines to Ukraine for the first time was prompted by a shift in Russian tactics on the battlefield.
Source: US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, quoted by CNN, as reported by European Pravda
Details: Austin noted that Russian forces have been so unsuccessful in their combat operations that they have altered their tactics.
Quote: "They don’t lead with their mechanised forces anymore. They lead with dismounted forces who are able to close and do things to kind of pave the way for mechanised forces."
Austin highlighted the need for Ukrainian forces to have "things that can help slow down that effort."
While the US has provided Ukraine with anti-tank mines since the start of the full-scale war in 2022, the decision to supply anti-personnel mines marks another significant shift in Biden’s administration policy.
Quote: "The land mines that we would look to provide them with are land mines that are not persistent. We can control when they would self-activate, self-detonate, and that makes it far safer eventually than the things that they are creating on their own."
He stressed the importance of Ukraine responsibly recording the locations where these mines are deployed.
Ukrainska Pravda
Khrystyna Bondarieva — Wednesday, 20 November 2024, 16:00
The Biden administration’s decision to send anti-personnel mines to Ukraine for the first time was prompted by a shift in Russian tactics on the battlefield.
Source: US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, quoted by CNN, as reported by European Pravda
Details: Austin noted that Russian forces have been so unsuccessful in their combat operations that they have altered their tactics.
Quote: "They don’t lead with their mechanised forces anymore. They lead with dismounted forces who are able to close and do things to kind of pave the way for mechanised forces."
Austin highlighted the need for Ukrainian forces to have "things that can help slow down that effort."
While the US has provided Ukraine with anti-tank mines since the start of the full-scale war in 2022, the decision to supply anti-personnel mines marks another significant shift in Biden’s administration policy.
Quote: "The land mines that we would look to provide them with are land mines that are not persistent. We can control when they would self-activate, self-detonate, and that makes it far safer eventually than the things that they are creating on their own."
He stressed the importance of Ukraine responsibly recording the locations where these mines are deployed.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:45 am to SirWinston
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We gave our blessing to land mines, which is barbaric.
Further proof this is our proxy war and we are in charge of calling the shots.
Seems like we were right from day one.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:52 am to AU86
quote:
. Negotiate peace with security guarantees
How? That’s the rub, how would a ceasefire be enforced?
No way without European or American direct help.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:55 am to VolSquatch
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If we end up in this conflict, I think all of you should be the first ones over there. If Ukraine is that important to you, step up to the plate big dawg.
lol
If this, if that.
If there is a WWIII they aren’t going to look at a message board to see who is for it agsinst Ukraine. They will draft anyone.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:57 am to doubleb
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If there is a WWIII they aren’t going to look at a message board to see who is for it agsinst Ukraine.
No, they won't. But if you are this rah rah for increasing the conflict, then by all means you should be the first to volunteer, hypothetically. Correct?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:01 am to doubleb
quote:If that were true, the questions would not have been posed.
I’ve made my position clear.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:08 am to BugAC
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No, they won't. But if you are this rah rah for increasing the conflict, then by all means you should be the first to volunteer, hypothetically. Correct?
Hypothetically no. Hypothetically, I would tell them to go get Vol, Winston, NC Tigah and you first.
I’m against increasing the conflict, but when Russia ratchets up their attacks by bringing if in Iranian help, N Korean help, and blasts away at Ukraine from distance and hordes materials for war at a distance, I believe we should help Ukraine defend themselves.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
No he has definitely made his position clear you just like to play in strawman arguments and ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:11 am to NC_Tigah
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If that were true, the questions would not have been posed.
WRONG
You just love being obtuse on here. You know better.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:13 am to SirWinston
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We gave our blessing to land mines, which is barbaric.
You know what else is barbaric, invading your neighbor. Live look of sir winston when he heard Ukraine will use them to defend themselves...
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:48 am to MoarKilometers
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:05 am to doubleb
quote:
there is a WWIII they aren’t going to look at a message board to see who is for it agsinst Ukraine. They will draft anyone.
Hence why I said “should”, moron
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:10 am to doubleb
lol of course this pussy doesn’t want to fight the battles he supports 
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:24 am to VolSquatch
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You don’t think Trump and Elon are fundamentally different animals than a Biden, Clinton, Bush, or Pelosi? People who have made it in the private world vs leeches latched on to the tit of the American tax payer?
The Bush family was way at the top long before going into politics.
Trump and Elon were born wealthy... that plays the biggest part in their "making it," because it has allowed them to get financing after failures way beyond what you would ever be allowed.
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