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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:46 am to
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Russian state media largely misrepresented the report by ignoring assessments about Russia's systemic mistreatment of Ukrainian POWs.


Torturing, beating and murdering surrendering troops is likely to result in Ukrainians fighting to the death rather than surrendering.



Russia does this because it wants its own troops to fight to the death rather than surrender... in the early days, too many Russians were surrendering, since the Chechens were waiting to kill anybody who retreated.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:35 am to
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When Russia helps Iran go nuclear, will the US stop intercepting missiles Iran fires into Israel?


I didn’t know Routh could post from jail. What a nutty nutty comment


Truth

His boy Obama.and Biden/Harris have bankrolled the mullahs.

I bet Leon is one of those "Free Palestine" losers. A self hater. What do you have against the Jews Leon?
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:39 am to
You're incorrect.

The Palestinians have never had leaders that didn't try to get them killed for the cause. There's also nutbags in Israel who are determined to exterminate every non-Jew in the area. Netanyahu aligns himself with the latter to stay in power, which doesn't help anything. Iran is wishing Hamas had never pulled that shite on October 7...
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:20 pm to
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There's also nutbags in Israel who are determined to exterminate every non-Jew in the area.

21% of the population of Israel is not Jewish...those nutbags are not doing a very good job.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:31 pm to
but they're still trying to rid Gaza and the West Bank of Arabs... they believe it's their destiny. I don't know what they plan to do with the non-Jews in Israel itself...
Posted by BoardReader
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:37 pm to
Then they're managing the most piss poor genocide in the history of genocides.

In Genocides, the target population goes down; over 60% in the European Holocaust, 60% in the Rwandan nightmare, 60% in areas of Yugoslavia.

Palestinian populations have *increased* by 550% over the last 70 years.

shite poor management from the Jooz that control the world?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:37 pm to
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I don't know what they plan to do with the non-Jews in Israel itself...
Hopefully something far more humane than happened to Jews in Arab countries?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 4:48 pm to
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Cargo pants needs to stop crying like a child for something he cannot defend like a man.
Yikes.

I get your post given the bent of this tread. I do.

But Ukraine acquitted itself admirably on the ground, militarily.
It kicked the Russians' butts.

The problem was "cargo pants" political inexperience prior to Feb 22, diplomatic/political inexperience in Apr 22, and his complete trust in untrustworthy allies led to an inability to translate Ukrainian bravery on the ground to its best deal available at the negotiating table.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:32 pm to
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Hopefully something far more humane than happened to Jews in Arab countries?


and European countries... no argument from me there...

The situation is just "nuanced," which doesn't play here
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:38 pm to
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Then they're managing the most piss poor genocide in the history of genocides.

In Genocides, the target population goes down; over 60% in the European Holocaust, 60% in the Rwandan nightmare, 60% in areas of Yugoslavia.

Palestinian populations have *increased* by 550% over the last 70 years.

shite poor management from the Jooz that control the world?


don't try to tag anti-semitism on me, pal... the reality of the settlers was pointed out to me by Jewish friends who lived in Israel. They irritate a big part of the Israeli population...
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:42 pm to
But none of it matters... since Hamas and Hezbollah became proxies of Iran, the Arabs in the region no longer give a shite about the Palestinians (Egypt hasn't given a shite since they had to try to administer Gaza, themselves, decades ago...).

October 7 happened in part to scuttle Saudi Arabia officially normalizing relations with Israel, joining Egypt and Jordan... Saudi Arabia actually announced it will still pursue that once things settle down in Gaza. They would rather deal with sensible Israel than Iranian proxies.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:59 pm to
ISW Update Oct 2

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Key Takeaways:

Ukraine continues efforts to expand domestic production of significant military equipment and maintain its drone advantage over Russia.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov condemned the Israel Defense Force's (IDF) ground operation in southern Lebanon during a meeting with the Lebanese ambassador to Russia on October 1.

Latvian forces enhanced air defense near the Russian border following a recent Russian drone crash in the country.

Russian and Ukrainian forces continued assaults in Kursk Oblast.

Russian forces recently marginally advanced near Svatove, Siversk, and Vuhledar and east and southeast of Pokrovsk

Russian defense enterprises are recruiting tens of thousands of new workers due to acute personnel shortages amid increased production of weapons due to the war in Ukraine.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 6:10 pm to
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Hopefully something far more humane than happened to Jews in Arab countries?
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and European countries...

Care to expound?
e.g., France has the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after Israel and the United States
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 7:35 pm to
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Care to expound?
e.g., France has the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after Israel and the United States


Look up history... Jews weren't allowed to legally exist in England for Centuries... France had pogroms that forced them out of the country... I don't think I need to mention Germany or the Slavic countries...
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 7:50 pm
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:56 pm to
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France has the third-largest Jewish population in the world, after Israel and the United States


A bit like Jim Crow, as long as they stay in their neighborhoods they're fine
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:41 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13223 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Russian forces recently marginally advanced near Svatove, Siversk, and Vuhledar and east and southeast of Pokrovsk

I thought Russia had taken Vuhledar?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:54 pm to
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How is this even possible if the stories from WWII are legit?


Interesting enough there was a private Humanist school in Bavaria, Germany, Max-Rill-Schule Reichersbeuern, which did have Jews who were safe throughout Hitler's reign. They were well connected, and enough money paid to the right officials. A now deceased biz friend, Jochen "Joe" Tobeck, went to school there during that time. Stereo typical German, blonde with blue eyes, about 6'2" strongly built, ran the 100 meters and shot put in high school. He could drown a fish with the amount of whiskey he could drink in an evening. President of Otto Wolff America handling distribution of tin plate (for cans), from the company steel mills in Germany and petcoke exports to Europe, the largest is both in the 1980's, most of it went to Livorno Italy for distribution in Europe. He loved going to strip clubs but didn't play with the girls. A competitor sent a girl to his hotel once and he turned her down. VEry married.
Posted by UnAnon
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Member since Sep 2013
6614 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:40 pm to
Most recorded war in history and the only video evidence of blocking troops is from Ukraine drones
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