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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:10 am to WeeWee
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:10 am to WeeWee
Looks like Ukraine's 72nd was able to pull out of Vuhledar. That is 10km move by Russia in a decade.
Trinidad's and Lima Whiskey's trans grandchildren may live to see Russia conquer all of Ukraine at this rate of advance.
Trinidad's and Lima Whiskey's trans grandchildren may live to see Russia conquer all of Ukraine at this rate of advance.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:16 am to CitizenK
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Looks like Ukraine's 72nd was able to pull out of Vuhledar. That is 10km move by Russia in a decade.
At that rate they will reach the border of the Donbas by the time Putin's eligibility to be president ends.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:17 am to WeeWee
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That is because you are a narcissist
Brings to mind a funny story.
A lawyer once asked Dr. Denton Cooley in open court if he considered himself to be the best heart surgeon in the world.
“Yes,” Cooley replied.
To which the lawyer asked if he thought this was being rather immodest.
“Perhaps,” Cooley responded,
“But remember, I’m under oath.”
quote:Which in this instance is a non sequitur, as the facts are simply not in evidence.
do not acknowledge things that don't prove you right.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:25 am to CitizenK
quote:In the history of our country, the largest loss of American lives on a battlefield in a single day occurred in Maryland in 1862
FWIW, the "Union" had little to no fear of actual invasion by 1862
quote:West Virginians might beg to differ
in 1864
Regardless, the point simply is, it could be done.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:28 am to CitizenK
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Not Great Britain during WWII. They were suspended. FWIW, the "Union" had little to no fear of actual invasion by 1862 and definitely didn't by 1864. I state this as a descendent of a Confederate general
I took Civil War history at LSU and don’t remember a foreign power intervening.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:44 am to Lee B
quote:Negative. Hence the legislation passed regarding elections.
The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits holding elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine under martial law.
quote:An interesting, if nonsensical, opinion. The legislative body is (was) elected. It's powers as a body cannot be suspended under ML. e.g., Zelenskyy cannot dissolve the parliament.
in my opinion, it is straightforward and says clearly that the powers of the parliament, which operates during martial law, cannot be terminated. Accordingly, there can be no elections if the legislative branch’s powers cannot be suspended during martial law
quote:Yep.
Aren't you the "muh reading comprehension!" guy?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:48 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
That is because you are a narcissist
Brings to mind a funny story.
A lawyer once asked Dr. Denton Cooley in open court if he considered himself to be the best heart surgeon in the world.
“Yes,” Cooley replied.
To which the lawyer asked if he thought this was being rather immodest.
“Perhaps,” Cooley responded,
“But remember, I’m under oath.”
quote:
do not acknowledge things that don't prove you right.
Which in this instance is a non sequitur, as the facts are simply not in evidence.
Deflect and ignore things that don't make you right. Just what someone with narcissistic personality disorder would do.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:51 am to doubleb
quote:I guess about 100K casualties during various CSA incursions in the North speak to the quality of that course.
I took Civil War history at LSU
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:54 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits holding elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine under martial law.
Negative. Hence the legislation passed regarding elections.
quote:
quote:
Article 83 of the Ukrainian Constitution states that if the term of the Verkhovna Rada expires under martial law, it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law.
quote:LINK
Article 19 of Ukraine’s martial law legislation specifically forbids conducting national elections.
The result is the same. It is illegal for Ukraine to conduct elections during a time of national emergency. Does it really matter if it is in the Constitution of Ukraine or in the Marshal Law of Ukraine which Ukraine allows for?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:57 am to WeeWee
quote:The fact is I don't know what you're talking about. E.g., During the recent Ukraine invasion, and upon destruction of major Russian arsenals, I posted here. Your perception notwithstanding.
as the facts are simply not in evidence.
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Deflect and ignore things that don't make you right.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:02 am to WeeWee
quote:Ah, interesting. This narcissist did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.
it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:11 am to NC_Tigah
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I guess about 100K casualties during various CSA incursions in the North speak to the quality of that course.
That’s not close to what has happened in Ukraine. It was a Civil War. There was no foreign power involved. The north was never occupied. 20% or more of the population did not leave the country.
Contrast the conditions with the conditions in Ukraine. Russia occupies Crimea and major parts of eastern Ukraine. Refugees left their homes and many left the country.
Their parliament voted to implement Marshall law. That was done per their constitution. I can understand why they curtailed elections.
Zekensky was elected in April of 2019 getting right at 75% of the vote. He took office the following May. He has served just over a year longer. How long will he continue? Who knows?
Edited to correct typo, thanks
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:22 am to NC_Tigah
Yes, the Union bravely defied the threat of Confederate drone and ballistic missile attacks and held elections! There was also an online voting option for the people who were scared to venture out.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:27 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law.
Ah, interesting. This narcissist did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.
Yep and the presidential declaration of marshal law has to be renewed by the Rada every 90 days. If the Rada does not renew the declaration then marshal law ends and elections have to be held within 3 months. Is it a perfect setup? No. Could it be abused and lead to a dictatorship? Yes. Were the laws written by Zelensky or any of the people in charge at present? No.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:28 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
quote:
it shall automatically be extended until a new Rada is seated following the end of martial law.
Ah, interesting. This narcissist did not know that. I stand corrected. Thanks.
It was in the original link I posted, and then I posted it again to highlight it... and you ignored it and argued against it...
he's just reposting it yet again...
Mr. Reading Comprehension...
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:30 am to WeeWee
quote:Regardless, your point leaves me feeling far better about the Ukrainian election situation than I did previously. Thanks again.
Yep and the presidential declaration of marshal law has to be renewed by the Rada every 90 days. If the Rada does not renew the declaration then marshal law ends and elections have to be held within 3 months. Is it a perfect setup? No. Could it be abused and lead to a dictatorship? Yes
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:32 am to doubleb
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Zekensky was elected in April of 2029 getting right at 75% of the vote. He took office the following May. He has served just over a year longer. How long will he continue? Who knows?
you mean 2019... I'm not pedantic, but you know the people here who seize on an obvious typo like this and make that the total of the conversation
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:07 pm to CitizenK
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Looks like Ukraine's 72nd was able to pull out of Vuhledar. That is 10km move by Russia in a decade.
Trinidad's and Lima Whiskey's trans grandchildren may live to see Russia conquer all of Ukraine at this rate of advance.
I get why you mock the slow rate of Russian advance but isn't Ukraine supposed to be moving the Russians back into Russia?
What is the plan for that? I know Ukraine had high hopes for a big offensive last year but it went the wrong way as I recall.
What is the Ukraine plan for victory or for at least halting the slow Russian advances?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:18 pm to Tiger985
Russia is entrenched, but they have to defend their new positions. And Russia has been running on fumes. No need for Ukraine to overextend if they are able to contain Russian advancement to a snails pace right now. Can Russia keep it up?
Ukraine has been steadily attacking the Russian logistics and supply depots. Ukraine has been making advancements in their long range technology and has been seeing good results so far.
It is Russia is who is finding the need to answer more questions right now.
Ukraine has been steadily attacking the Russian logistics and supply depots. Ukraine has been making advancements in their long range technology and has been seeing good results so far.
It is Russia is who is finding the need to answer more questions right now.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 12:28 pm to Lee B
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you mean 2019... I'm not pedantic, but you know the people here who seize on an obvious typo like this and make that the total of the conversation
Yes thanks
Fat fingers
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