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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:39 pm to trinidadtiger
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:39 pm to trinidadtiger
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You missed math class bless your heart.....
No, i quite clearly recognized 0% saying it wasn't the war, but laundering instead.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:40 pm to trinidadtiger
Ukraine war latest: ICC issues arrest warrants for Russia's ex-Defense Minister Shoigu, Russian army Chief Gerasimov
Key developments on June 25:
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Russia's Shoigu, Gerasimov
Czech PM confirms Ukraine received first batch of shells under Prague-led initiative
European Court of Human Rights finds Russia guilty of violating human rights in occupied Crimea
Ukraine brings back 90 POWs from Russian captivity
Ukraine's military intelligence says it set fire to ammunition depot in Russia's Voronezh Oblast
The International Criminal Court (ICC) announced on June 25 that it has issued arrest warrants for two Russian security officials leading the country's war effort.
Sergei Shoigu, head of Russia's Security Council, and Valery Gerasimov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian army, are charged with war crimes, particularly "directing attacks at civilian objects," and "causing excessive incidental harm to civilians or damage to civilian objects."
Shoigu and Gerasimov are accused of the "crime against humanity." The charges relate to Russian strikes on Ukraine's energy infrastructure between October 2022 and March 2023, the ICC said.
Shoigu served as Russia's defense minister at the time of the alleged crimes.
The court found that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the alleged strikes were directed against civilian objects."
While the energy infrastructure "may have qualified as military objectives at the relevant time," the ICC said that "the expected incidental civilian harm and damage would have been clearly excessive to the anticipated military advantage."
The Kyiv Independent
Key developments on June 25:
International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Russia's Shoigu, Gerasimov
Czech PM confirms Ukraine received first batch of shells under Prague-led initiative
European Court of Human Rights finds Russia guilty of violating human rights in occupied Crimea
Ukraine brings back 90 POWs from Russian captivity
Ukraine's military intelligence says it set fire to ammunition depot in Russia's Voronezh Oblast
The International Criminal Court (ICC) announced on June 25 that it has issued arrest warrants for two Russian security officials leading the country's war effort.
Sergei Shoigu, head of Russia's Security Council, and Valery Gerasimov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian army, are charged with war crimes, particularly "directing attacks at civilian objects," and "causing excessive incidental harm to civilians or damage to civilian objects."
Shoigu and Gerasimov are accused of the "crime against humanity." The charges relate to Russian strikes on Ukraine's energy infrastructure between October 2022 and March 2023, the ICC said.
Shoigu served as Russia's defense minister at the time of the alleged crimes.
The court found that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the alleged strikes were directed against civilian objects."
While the energy infrastructure "may have qualified as military objectives at the relevant time," the ICC said that "the expected incidental civilian harm and damage would have been clearly excessive to the anticipated military advantage."
The Kyiv Independent
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:01 pm to cypher
Ukrainian troops destroyed two Pantsir-S1 systems in the Belgorod region
The Ukrainian Defense Forces detected and destroyed two Russian Pantsir-S1 air defense systems in the Belgorod region.
Soldiers of the 3rd Rapid Reaction Brigade “Spartan” of the National Guard of Ukraine showed the damaged systems.
“After that, Russian combat vehicles were hit and disabled,” the military said.
The first Pantsir-S1 SAM was discovered in a field between the city of Belgorod and the village of Dubove.
The Pantsir-S1 system was constantly on duty at this location and did not change its position, as evidenced by the traces of the vehicle.
The second air defense system was discovered by reconnaissance drones near Borisovka.
US M142 HIMARS rocket systems presumably hit both systems.
The destruction of the Pantsir-S1 in the Belgorod region allows Ukrainian forces to deter the Russian offensive in the Kharkiv region more effectively.
The Pantsir-S1 was used to shoot down reconnaissance drones and GMLRS projectiles launched from HIMARS.
Such a defeat forces the Russian command to withdraw other systems to safer areas, reducing the effectiveness of overall air defense in this sector.
As previously reported, this possibility was made possible by the fact that the United States allowed the Ukrainian military to use American weapons on Russian territory.
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The Ukrainian Defense Forces detected and destroyed two Russian Pantsir-S1 air defense systems in the Belgorod region.
Soldiers of the 3rd Rapid Reaction Brigade “Spartan” of the National Guard of Ukraine showed the damaged systems.
“After that, Russian combat vehicles were hit and disabled,” the military said.
The first Pantsir-S1 SAM was discovered in a field between the city of Belgorod and the village of Dubove.
The Pantsir-S1 system was constantly on duty at this location and did not change its position, as evidenced by the traces of the vehicle.
The second air defense system was discovered by reconnaissance drones near Borisovka.
US M142 HIMARS rocket systems presumably hit both systems.
The destruction of the Pantsir-S1 in the Belgorod region allows Ukrainian forces to deter the Russian offensive in the Kharkiv region more effectively.
The Pantsir-S1 was used to shoot down reconnaissance drones and GMLRS projectiles launched from HIMARS.
Such a defeat forces the Russian command to withdraw other systems to safer areas, reducing the effectiveness of overall air defense in this sector.
As previously reported, this possibility was made possible by the fact that the United States allowed the Ukrainian military to use American weapons on Russian territory.
LINK
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:22 pm to cypher
Lol. The ICC. Netanyahu is giggling
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:26 pm to notiger1997
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I'm not sure that theirs is better than ours. We've had some pretty awesome stuff for at least a decade now.
Of course they are using theirs in a more unconventional way and having success, so I agree there are some learnings from this.
Ukraine is effectively using masses of drones costing hundreds or a few thousand while our Switchblades and Javelins cost between $60k and $176k each. That's our problem.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:29 pm to No Colors
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We built out an AI driven drone swarm program that is hyper complex and extremely expensive. They are making it work with $2000 FPV drones with $200 mortar rounds zip tied to them.
Their way is better, because it was born of necessity and adapted to real world conditions. Those are always the best solutions to problems. They make the ones dreamed up by beltway techno war whores look ridiculous.
Not sure it looks more like a racket or ridiculous.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:39 pm to GOP_Tiger
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For me, the big takeaway from letting US contractors in Ukraine is that all the additional air defense equipment and rockets along with F-16s, will, by the fall, make those contractors very unlikely to be bombed and killed.
A lot of countries have a lot of experience with F16's so the potential personnel pool should be wide and deep. Skilled pilot contractors too. I'm just surprised it has taken so long to see the obvious.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:40 pm to Auburn1968
The military grade drones have less problems with EW. Maybe Russia's EW is not as advertised.
With armor, typically a mine wrecks a track which leaves the armor, be it tank, turtle tank or other vehicle vulnerable and exposed first. I also have to wonder if Russian tank optics are so bad they need to have the top hatch opened and look out.
With armor, typically a mine wrecks a track which leaves the armor, be it tank, turtle tank or other vehicle vulnerable and exposed first. I also have to wonder if Russian tank optics are so bad they need to have the top hatch opened and look out.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:02 pm to Auburn1968
The javelins helped save Kyiv.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:25 pm to MoarKilometers
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You missed math class bless your heart.....
No, i quite clearly recognized 0% saying it wasn't the war, but laundering instead.
Ukraine must be winning
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:46 pm to trinidadtiger
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As a result of heavy shelling and fighting, an estimated 3.7 million people have been driven from their homes and are internally displaced
Who knew that shelling is just military jargon for money laundering...TIL
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:49 pm to trinidadtiger
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20% of ukranians have fled the country, not because of the war but because they know its a laundromat and they dont want to die for it.
So they didn’t leave their homes and business because thousands of Russians invaded and tons of bombs rained down on their towns and villages?
You need to get the word out. Most people thought they left because they might get maimed or killed.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:54 pm to doubleb
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Two major international bodies—the International Criminal Court (ICC) and the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) — announced decisions on June 25 confirming Russia's long-term perpetration of war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine.
Russia and Venezuela signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) aimed at countering "coercive measures," likely to demonstrate to the West that the Kremlin holds influence in the Western hemisphere.
Ukrainian forces conducted a drone strike on a Russian ammunition depot in Voronezh Oblast on June 25 and recently conducted strikes on Pantsir-S1 air defense systems in Belgorod Oblast with unspecified weapons.
Russia imposed countersanctions against 81 European Union (EU)-based news outlets on June 25 following EU sanctions against four Russian state-affiliated news outlets on June 24.
Dagestan Republic Head Sergei Melikov ordered investigations into the personal records of senior Dagestani officials following the June 23 likely Wilayat Kavkaz terrorist attacks in Dagestan, indicating that the Kremlin may be intensifying efforts to address Islamist extremist threats in the North Caucasus as it attempts to maintain a veneer of stability and normalcy.
Armenian Foreign Minister Ararat Mirzoyan met with Lithuania-based Belarusian opposition leader Svitlana Tsikhanouskaya on June 20 in Vilnius amid deteriorating Armenian-Belarusian relations
Ukrainian forces recently regained lost positions in Vovchansk, and Russian forces recently advanced near Siversk and Avdiivka.
A Russian milblogger claimed that the Russian Volunteer Society for Assistance to the Army, Aviation, and Navy of Russia (DOSAAF) will begin training unspecified Russian military personnel on October 1, 2024.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:27 pm to StormyMcMan
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Russia and Venezuela signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) aimed at countering "coercive measures," likely to demonstrate to the West that the Kremlin holds influence in the Western hemisphere.
LOL
That’s pathetic
Posted on 6/25/24 at 11:41 pm to notiger1997
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Russia and Venezuela signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) aimed at countering "coercive measures," likely to demonstrate to the West that the Kremlin holds influence in the Western hemisphere.
LOL
That’s pathetic
Laughable especially knowing that Rosneft was given leases taken from US companies but the Chinese tried first and neither could do much with them. No expertise.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 12:18 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 6:43 am to CitizenK
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 26 June 2024
Several Russian Duma deputies have recently expressed concern about the threat posed to law and order by returning ex-prisoners who have been fighting for the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine. The Chairperson of the Duma Committee on Family Protection, Issues of paternity, maternity and childhood Nina Ostanina told Russian newspaper Gazeta that there will be more crimes as these ex-prisoners are not socialised. She said that ex-prisoners should be constantly monitored by the law-enforcement agencies and society needed to be protected from such people. She said there was an urgent need for legislation. Duma Deputy Maksim Ivanov also warned that there could be an increase in crime after the return of people from the war.
Russia has been recruiting prisoners to serve in its armed forces since at least July 2022, a practice pioneered by the former Head of the Wagner Russian private military company, Yevgeny Prigozhin. Prisoner sentences are commuted in exchange for fighting in Ukraine. Many have been killed on the frontlines. The First Deputy Chairman of the Duma Defence Committee Alexey Zhuravlev argued that prisoners sent to fight in Ukraine should not be permitted to return to Russia until victory is achieved in the war with Ukraine.
The Russian General Procuracy has ceased to publish official crime statistics since 01 January 2023, likely partly over the possible rise in violent crime committed by ex-prisoners returning from fighting in Ukraine. The independent Russian media outlet Verstka reported in April 2024 that at least 107 Russians had been killed and another 100 seriously injured by veterans returning from the conflict. The recruitment of prisoners into the Russian Armed Forces and the implications for Russian communities when they are released is a practice and a risk that the Russian Government is prepared to take to maintain its war in Ukraine.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 26 June 2024
Several Russian Duma deputies have recently expressed concern about the threat posed to law and order by returning ex-prisoners who have been fighting for the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine. The Chairperson of the Duma Committee on Family Protection, Issues of paternity, maternity and childhood Nina Ostanina told Russian newspaper Gazeta that there will be more crimes as these ex-prisoners are not socialised. She said that ex-prisoners should be constantly monitored by the law-enforcement agencies and society needed to be protected from such people. She said there was an urgent need for legislation. Duma Deputy Maksim Ivanov also warned that there could be an increase in crime after the return of people from the war.
Russia has been recruiting prisoners to serve in its armed forces since at least July 2022, a practice pioneered by the former Head of the Wagner Russian private military company, Yevgeny Prigozhin. Prisoner sentences are commuted in exchange for fighting in Ukraine. Many have been killed on the frontlines. The First Deputy Chairman of the Duma Defence Committee Alexey Zhuravlev argued that prisoners sent to fight in Ukraine should not be permitted to return to Russia until victory is achieved in the war with Ukraine.
The Russian General Procuracy has ceased to publish official crime statistics since 01 January 2023, likely partly over the possible rise in violent crime committed by ex-prisoners returning from fighting in Ukraine. The independent Russian media outlet Verstka reported in April 2024 that at least 107 Russians had been killed and another 100 seriously injured by veterans returning from the conflict. The recruitment of prisoners into the Russian Armed Forces and the implications for Russian communities when they are released is a practice and a risk that the Russian Government is prepared to take to maintain its war in Ukraine.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 7:14 am to cypher
We should do the same thing with all the repeat offenders we have here in EBR.
You know all the thugs, the gang bangers, the pseudo rappers and the drug gangs. Instead of putting them in jail let them serve in the army.
Yea, send em to Ukraine and let them serve in the Russian army. They’d fit right in.
You know all the thugs, the gang bangers, the pseudo rappers and the drug gangs. Instead of putting them in jail let them serve in the army.
Yea, send em to Ukraine and let them serve in the Russian army. They’d fit right in.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 7:22 am to cypher
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The independent Russian media outlet Verstka reported in April 2024 that at least 107 Russians had been killed and another 100 seriously injured by veterans returning from the conflict.
Considering the raw numbers of combatants that Russia has utilized, this is not a shocking number. It actually seems like an underreport.
My suspicion is that there is likely even less mental health treatment tools available for returning soldiers in Russia than we have here. Both the criminal and non-criminal combatants would be expected to have a high rate of difficulty reintegrating after being sent to the front lines.
As for the other part of the post, the call for additional policing of returning former criminals, that would require an increased number of social and police resources. If they had those extra folks available, those people would be more likely sent to the war, rather than being utilized for a home-side police protection force.
It’s a shame that Russians are doing this to themselves. Oh well, that’s what they have affirmatively chosen.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:49 am to TBoy
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My suspicion is that there is likely even less mental health treatment tools available for returning soldiers in Russia than we have here.
They have one tool, vodka, cheap rot gut vodka
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:50 am
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:54 pm to cypher
A few reports coming in that Ukraine is targeting the Russian anti-retreat units immediately behind the front making retreat and desertion easier. The units hit were the command posts.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 1:48 pm
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