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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/24/24 at 5:36 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 5:36 am to
It may not be a question of stupidity if he’s backed into a corner, and it may not be a Putin issue because he is old and is probably at as much of a risk as ever of being ousted in the near future.
This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 7:06 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 5:55 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 24 June 2024

One year ago, on 24 June 2023, the late Yevgeny Prigozhin led over 8,000 Wagner personnel on a 'march for justice' against the Russian military's high command, accusing them of corruption and dereliction of duty. Russia has subsequently arrested several high-profile military leaders on accusations of corruption. Whilst a particular target of Prigohzin's scorn, the ex-Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, has since been replaced.

Although Yevgeny Prigozhin died in a 23 August 2023 plane crash, his 'Wagner Group' Private Military Company has survived him, now directed by his son Pavel Prigozhin and commanded by Anton "Lotos" Yelizarov. The Wagner Group withdrew from the frontlines in Ukraine during May 2023, being replaced by Chechen and Russian MOD Volunteer Corps irregular forces. Whilst in Africa, the Russian MOD's Africa Corps replaced Wagner's deployments in Syria and Libya in late 2023 and early 2024 respectively. Wagner nevertheless maintains independent deployments in Belarus, Mali and the Central African Republic.

Prigozhin pioneered the practice of recruiting prisoners to serve in Ukraine. From July 2022 until February 2023, when the Russian MOD took over the practice, Wagner recruited over 48,000 prisoners, over 17,000 of whom were subsequently killed in action. Since February 2022, Russia's total prison population has decreased by at least 150,000. It is likely that a majority of these prisoners were released in exchange for agreeing to fight in Ukraine.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 6:01 am to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The Islamic State (IS) Northern Caucasus branch Wilayat Kavkaz likely conducted a complex and coordinated attack against churches, synagogues, and law enforcement structures in the Republic of Dagestan on June 23.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) accused Ukrainian forces of conducting a short-range ATACMS strike against occupied Sevastopol on June 23. Russian milbloggers widely criticized the Russian MoD and Russia’s occupation authorities in Crimea for failing to prevent the strike and sufficiently protect Russian civilians.

Ukrainian forces struck a Russian motorized rifle regiment command post in Nekhoteevka, Belgorod Oblast.

Recent drone footage showing a Russian soldier executing a wounded fellow servicemember exemplifies the brutal culture that is pervasive within the Russian Armed Forces.

South Korea has adopted a firm approach against Russia in the wake of recently intensified Russo-North Korean cooperation, suggesting that Russian efforts to threaten Seoul into withholding aid from Ukraine have failed.

The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) detained two former senior employees of the Wagner Group-affiliated Patriot media holding on the eve of the one-year anniversary of the Wagner mutiny.

Russian forces recently seized Shumy and advanced near Donetsk City and Robotyne.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law on June 22 officially transferring the Cossack Cadet Corps and the Russian Naval Cadet Corps to the jurisdiction of the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD).


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 6:29 am to
Incredible story in today's WSJ about Ukraine's naval drones:

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KYIV, Ukraine—The Russian naval corvette had just left the safety of Sevastopol Bay one morning last fall when an explosion ripped a hole in its hull.

As tugs pulled the ship back to port on Sept. 14, Russian state news agencies claimed it had fought off the latest attack by Ukrainian naval drones—small, explosive craft that had for months been ramming Russian naval ships in the Black Sea. This time, Ukrainian officials added a twist, saying their forces had used an “experimental weapon” as well as drones.

In an interview, the architect of Ukraine’s groundbreaking naval drone program said that the attack marked a first in warfare: The Russian ship had been disabled by a mine laid by a Ukrainian unmanned craft that had hauled it some 250 miles before returning to port.




Read the whole thing: LINK
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 6:48 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16275 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:00 am to
An older article showing that Nord Stream 1 & 2 were not even needed to supply Europe. Moscow just wanted to bypass Ukraine.

Cutting the supply via Ukraine to 1/3 was more than what was going through Nord Stream

LINK
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16275 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:28 am to
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Bet hedging


Nah, just reaffirming it after Putin's visit. Vietnam and China are like oil & vinegar. they make salad dressing sometimes but really hate each others. Russia really doesn't have much trade with Vietnam. The US is a major trading partner.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8495 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:35 am to
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In an interview, the architect of Ukraine’s groundbreaking naval drone program said that the attack marked a first in warfare: The Russian ship had been disabled by a mine laid by a Ukrainian unmanned craft that had hauled it some 250 miles before returning to port.


Its wild to see in real time how far ahead militaries are in terms of drone utilization vs current civilian applications. And it still feels like we are only scratching the surface.

Its also alarming since eventually you'll see this utilized by terrorists and other bad actors. The Houthis aren't even doing anything particularly groundbreaking in terms of their drone usage and its still a big problem.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41490 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:22 am to
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Russian forces recently seized Shumy and advanced near Donetsk City and Robotyne.


Interesting how Russia is advancing every week. Yet if you read this thread they are massively losing because {insert cool new bomb being sent to Ukraine with video and specs}. A lot of posters here need a reality check
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61754 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:37 am to
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Yet if you read this thread they are massively losing


bullshite. You folks repeat this a lot in this thread for some reason. Nobody is saying Ukraine is "winning".
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42850 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:55 am to
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bullshite. You folks repeat this a lot in this thread for some reason. Nobody is saying Ukraine is "winning".


Bingo

But some things go Ukraine’s way and then these so called “non caring folks” come out of the woodwork to argue.

Reality is Russia is inching along, but hasn’t been able to really gain much of an advantage.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21087 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:23 am to
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Interesting how Russia is advancing every week. Yet if you read this thread they are massively losing because {insert cool new bomb being sent to Ukraine with video and specs}. A lot of posters here need a reality check


Was Hitler winning during the Ardennes offensive (Battle of the Bulge)? The Nazis were pushing the Allies back.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41490 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:30 am to
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Was Hitler winning during the Ardennes offensive (Battle of the Bulge)? The Nazis were pushing the Allies back.


Are you comparing a month long battle nearly 100 years ago to a 2.5 year ongoing war?

Interesting.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61754 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:31 am to
Do you have anything to add about the war other than being a bitch?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41490 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:41 am to
Do you have anything to add other than hurling personal insults to people who bring reality to your holy war?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21087 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:14 am to
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Are you comparing a month long battle nearly 100 years ago to a 2.5 year ongoing war?



Are you incapable of understanding an analogy?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5778 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:36 am to
Ukraine’s Tech Hub Develops AI-Driven Drone Swarms to Combat Russian Forces

Ukraine is about to deploy an AI-powered drone swarm that can work together to destroy Russian tanks and gather intelligence.

by Kyiv Post | June 24, 2024, 2:38 pm

A Ukrainian startup says it’s on the brink of revolutionizing warfare with an AI-driven drone swarm capable of coordinated attacks on enemy tanks and intelligence gathering, potentially giving Ukraine a significant advantage in its war with Russia, as per The Times’ report.

These drones can communicate with each other, make decisions on where to attack, and gather intelligence “faster than any human could,” Kuprienko said.

Bornyakov said that Ukraine is testing swarm technology with at least one company besides Krupiienko’s. He said that while the drones are capable of operating autonomously, human confirmation is required for targeting to ensure ethical and safety standards are met.

“Technically, they [the drones] could do it by themselves,” he added.

Kuprienko said that his drones could be programmed to recognize and shoot based on uniforms. However, he said, “We don’t allow it ethically and for safety purposes.”

American expert Singer suggests that Ukraine may have already used AI to autonomously destroy targets. He mentions a sophisticated American drone system that identifies enemy vehicles, even if camouflaged, and coordinates automatic strikes.

Singer recalled politicians assuring that this was a line they would never cross but added that it has now been crossed with little controversy.

The ethical debate over autonomous weapons continues among military experts, lawyers, and ethicists, as outlined in the report. Kuprienko repeats the official stance that a human commander must approve each attack. However, he concedes that some commanders might prefer full autonomy to maximize the swarm's effectiveness, adding “We’re fighting a war here, and we want to win.”

Like Bornyakov, he envisions a “kill box”—an area containing only enemy targets—where a swarm could operate independently.

The Kyiv Post
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:44 am to
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Vietnam


I wouldn't put too much stock into anything regarding Vietnam and the US or Russia.

quote:

Vietnam's foreign policy is based on the principle of becoming "friends with all" countries in the international community and acting as a reliable partner. This policy, which was developed after the Cold War, has led to Vietnam establishing comprehensive strategic partnerships (CSPs) with seven countries, including China, Russia, India, South Korea, the United States, Japan, and Australia.
This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5778 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 10:46 am to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41490 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 11:14 am to
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Are you incapable of understanding an analogy?


I definitely understand that is an absolutely terrible analogy.

You did try though so that counts I guess.
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