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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:55 pm to VolSquatch
Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:55 pm to VolSquatch
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What are they compared to other engineering positions?
They aren't all that inflated. I found a software engineer role with a salary between 70k and 120k, which is lower than the FAANG engineers get coming out of school. And many of these defense jobs are restricted to American citizens who can hold a security clearance. Again, you seem super full of shite.
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It’s probably not a massive difference either way over consulting, but generally more talented people enter consulting than small government or even utilities.
Brother, I just found an engineering job with a state government where the pay was 8k more than the job posted on RTX. I am beginning to suspect that your claim isn't going to stand up to any scrutiny.
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So to make our military better we have to overpay for shells, you dumb frick? ?
Again idiot, that's not the way it is buttressed. Think for yourself for once, because the answer is so obvious that I'm surprised in your vast expertise you haven't brought it up.
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 6:58 pm to VolSquatch
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Looks like high 70’s to 80’s.
As an engineer, that's pretty standard entry level engineering salary.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:02 pm to crazy4lsu
Cherry picking software engineers @ FAANG is an awful comparison when I’ve repeatedly brought up the comparison as vs your average engineering job. You seem dishonest and full of shite.
Oh cool, one job. You’re full of great examples. Or just full of shite and dishonest.
[quote]Again idiot, that's not the way it is buttressed[/quote
Did you learn a new word on your leapfrog tablet today ?
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Brother, I just found an engineering job with a state government where the pay was 8k more than the job posted on RTX. I am beginning to suspect that your claim isn't going to stand up to any scrutiny.
Oh cool, one job. You’re full of great examples. Or just full of shite and dishonest.
[quote]Again idiot, that's not the way it is buttressed[/quote
Did you learn a new word on your leapfrog tablet today ?
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:08 pm to StormyMcMan
Not for mechanical, environmental, electrical, civil, and chemical, which are the most common majors. They all start in the high 50’s/low 60’s to low 70’s
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:08 pm to VolSquatch
Alright, we’ve given this nimrod waaaay too much attention. Time to give up I guess.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:09 pm to VolSquatch
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Cherry picking software engineers @ FAANG is an awful comparison when I’ve repeatedly brought up the comparison as vs your average engineering job.
Brother, the first listing was for a ME job that was at 64k, which is a little lower than what I expected for a large defense firm. So far, from what I can gather, their entry level positions are a little lower than O and G and are lower than FAANG positions.
You could buttress your argument with real points, but you haven't done that yet. I don't think you are able.
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Oh cool, one job. You’re full of great examples. Or just full of shite and dishonest.
I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claims, little guy. You are definitely the dishonest one here, especially considering one of the key aspects of your argument is that these defense firms, which are publicly traded, are inflating the salaries of their employees at all levels, for the specific purpose of tricking you and apparently only you. Lol
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:09 pm to notiger1997
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Time to give up I guess
Just because your parents gave up on you doesn’t mean you have to give up on me
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:18 pm to crazy4lsu
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han O and G and are lower than FAANG positions
So they are lower than two very high paying industries. Impeccable evidence.
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I'm not the one making unsubstantiated claim
No, you just find specific, bad examples and go with those as gospel. It’s fine. Not everyone has the moral compass to embrace honesty when arguing.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:24 pm to VolSquatch
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So they are lower than two very high paying industries. Impeccable evidence.
Well, given that a big part of your argument is oriented around the amount that is paid to entry level engineers, comparing them to other large companies is pretty much apples to apples. There is only so much talent to go around, and honestly I'm surprised at how low those salaries are, especially given the competition for elite talent at these companies. You aren't at that level, so obviously you have no frame of reference.
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No, you just find specific, bad examples and go with those as gospel. It’s fine.
Lol. As opposed to you, who hasn't provided one source at all except for 'trust me bro.'
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:28 pm to crazy4lsu
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There is only so much talent to go around, and honestly I'm surprised at how low those salaries are, especially given the competition for elite talent at these companies
The elite talent ends up at FAANG and then start companies themselves.
The rest are at best B teamers, but the B and even lower level guys can still make a decent living if they sell out, pay their dues, and make it into management or something eventually.
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You aren't at that level, so obviously you have no frame of reference.
Yeah I’m sure someone who uses the term “little guy” on a message board is among the elite of the elite
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:32 pm to VolSquatch
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The elite talent ends up at FAANG and then start companies themselves.
Of course. Famously, the defense industries engineers are B-teamers.
Also I don't think you have a frame of reference for what I mean by elite talent if you think I'm talking about people who end up starting companies themselves.
Again, where does this leave our original argument? Can we safely say that the specific claim about lack of profit filtering to entry level positions probably isn't the strongest?
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Yeah I’m sure someone who uses the term “little guy” on a message board is among the elite of the elite
In comparison to you, absolutely.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:41 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, where does this leave our original argument? Can we safely say that the specific claim about lack of profit filtering to entry level positions probably isn't the strongest?
I would mostly agree with that after doing more research. higher level positions and particularly hired consultants are probably a lot more guilty of what I was talking about than the entry level positions outside of aerospace engineering (which is highly paid anyway). I did find numbers on generic job sites like Glassdoor and indeed showing statistics backing what I claimed, but not many actual listings (though many of them didn’t have a salary posted at all on the listing).
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elite talent if you think I'm talking about people who end up starting companies themselves.
Maybe, but I certainly think it takes an elite talent to start a successful company. But maybe that talent isn’t necessary “software engineering” talent as it is business talent in seeing a market need and filling it.
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In comparison to you, absolutely
Speaking of unsubstantiated claims
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:46 pm to VolSquatch
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I would mostly agree with that after doing more research. higher level positions and particularly hired consultants are probably a lot more guilty of what I was talking about than the entry level positions outside of aerospace engineering (which is highly paid anyway). I did find numbers on generic job sites like Glassdoor and indeed showing statistics backing what I claimed, but not many actual listings (though many of them didn’t have a salary posted at all on the listing
Again the listings themselves don't support what you claimed. I've gone through Boeing and RTX and I can go through more, but thankfully you've bent the knee.
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Maybe, but I certainly think it takes an elite talent to start a successful company. But maybe that talent isn’t necessary “software engineering” talent as it is business talent in seeing a market need and filling it.
Holy shite, we are talking about engineering talent. Let's stay on task. There are plenty of reasons such talent doesn't move to start their own companies.
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Speaking of unsubstantiated claims
Nah
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:50 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:53 pm to crazy4lsu
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Holy shite, we are talking about engineering talen
You don’t think the startup culture in FAANG is relevant to that point? Software engineers from FAANG have founded numerous startups. I never said that’s a set in stone career path for every single FAANG SE, but it does happen, and it’s usually elite talent that does it
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/3/24 at 7:56 pm to VolSquatch
Lol are you gonna give me a breakdown about what constitutes elite talent after you seemingly have said that the defense industry has B level engineers? Truly, regal me with your wisdom.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:01 pm to crazy4lsu
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the defense industry has B level engineers
They do.
If they were that good, they would go to faang or start their own business. But they can’t, because they are B teamers.
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:19 pm to VolSquatch
Lol
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:25 pm to VolSquatch
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If they were that good, they would go to faang or start their own business. But they can’t, because they are B teamers.
Assuming nothing is outsourced or variation built on off the shelf if you are using FAANG to compare, this is only the software, nothing more.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 8:34 pm to Tigris
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I hope you realize that it's pretty chickenshit to use Hemmingway as your avatar. He went to support the rebels against the fascists against overwhelming odds. You advocate surrender to them. Odd choice on your part.
The Communists were evil, Franco's victory was a good thing. And Hemingway worked for the Soviets.
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