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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:44 pm to
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They inmates running the asylum over there think the EU/NATO is a precursor to the NWO and Russia is the last bastion of freedom. They are disparagingly talking about "the West" so much you'd think it's on an al Qaeda or Chinese forum. Good stuff.


It's kinda hard to reconcile how successful Putin was in sowing antagonism and discontent within our society with how poorly or little he has done in the information warfare part of this Ukrainian war. Could be that he doesn't need it or doesn't care or maybe he really is getting sick, but propaganda and influencing opinions seemed to be something he was good at once.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:53 pm to
Well he was setting the overall policy but he had a lot of others implementing it. Maybe he purged them or maybe, like the army, this is some form of massive internal sabotage because they know how far he is willing to go.

If we survive, it will be interesting to see the books written about this from the other side.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:53 pm to
DOD: Senior Defense Official Holds a Background Briefing

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SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Good morning, everybody. Senior defense official here.

Not a whole lot of specific changes to speak to today. Continue to see the general movement by Russian forces along those three lines of axes. We now assess that Mr. Putin has put in 90 percent of his pre-staged combat power across the border into Ukraine. Consistent with what you guys are all seeing in open-source press reporting, we also see and are observing heavy bombardment in the cities to the north and to the east, so that's Kyiv, Chernihiv and Kharkiv.

In general, we still assess that Russian forces are largely stalled across the north. That doesn't mean that they aren't making any progress, but in general they still appear to be largely stalled, is how we would characterize it.

In Kyiv, the Russian forces remain north and northwest of the city. And again, as you guys have all noted, there is increasing bombardment. In Kharkiv, we would assess that the Russian forces now appear to be just outside the city, very near the ring road. And again, as you guys are all observing, increasing bombardment there. In Chernihiv, we assess that they remain stalled to the north and to the northeast of Chernihiv, and again, bombardment is happening there.

In the south, we've seen reporting that Kherson is under Russian control, but we're not in a position to independently verify that. In the southeast, we observe, our assessment is that Mariupol is still under Ukrainian control, although we have seen and observe Russian forces advancing on Mariupol with, as I said yesterday, the apparent intention to isolate the city. And of course, as you guys have all seen, we've seen increasing bombardment. We still assess that they also are -- are trying to move and advance on Mariupol from the north, as well as from the coastline northeast of Berdyans’k. So they are still moving on Mariupol, but we assess that it is under Ukrainian control.

Nothing to speak you in the maritime environment. I know everybody's very fixated on Odessa. We don't have any naval activity to speak to or any moves by the Russians with respect to Odessa at this time. Obviously, we're watching as closely as we can, but we just haven't seen any appreciable activity.

Airspace over Ukraine remains contested, as yesterday. We assess that Ukrainian air and missile defense systems remain intact, and they remain effective. They continue to be able to fly their airplanes and to employ air defense assets. And as of this morning, we've now counted more than 480 Russian missile launches, again, of all sizes and strengths.

Now, I look, I know there's a lots of questions about other stuff, so let me just see if I can rip the Band-Aid off on some of these.

We cannot confirm reports of the use of cluster munitions. We cannot confirm reports of the presence or use of thermobaric weapons. We still assess that the convoy is that everybody's been focused on is stalled, and that we have no reason to doubt Ukrainian claims that they have contributed to it being stalled by attacking it. I have seen reports out there attributed to various U.S. officials about Stinger missiles. I can only say that we continue to provide Ukraine the systems that they need to defend themselves, and that includes best systems and weapons that they can use to deal with threats on the ground, as well as airborne threats, and that is as far as I'm going to go. I will not be confirming the reporting that I've seen out there.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1943 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:57 pm to
The NWO and the WEF are a danger to free people. But so is Putin and Xi.

That is the main reason Trump is so popular and why they are trying to stop him form running again. He may be our last hope.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:58 pm to
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Should more than make up for Britain's departure IMO.


Lol
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 4:59 pm to
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It's kinda hard to reconcile how successful Putin was in sowing antagonism and discontent within our society with how poorly or little he has done in the information warfare part of this Ukrainian war. Could be that he doesn't need it or doesn't care or maybe he really is getting sick, but propaganda and influencing opinions seemed to be something he was good at once.

US intelligence did a good job of calling his bullshite. For whatever reason Putin didn't put effort into gaining support back home for this war. Is it because information moves more freely today and he knew his bullshite would be called? I mean, he tried in the literal days leading up to the beginning of the invasion, but all of that was essentially shot down by the international community.

He is now faced with a populace that knows it is all bullshite. Hell, we've seen more publicly from the opposition within Russia in the last two weeks than we have in years. You pretty much have to look at those as cracks in Putin's facade.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:01 pm to
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You got a piece of tail there or what baw?



Yes
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:04 pm to
I suggest not reporting that on your SF86
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:04 pm to
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Yes

Fair enough.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:05 pm to
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Trump .... He may be our last hope.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:09 pm to
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It's kinda hard to reconcile how successful Putin was in sowing antagonism and discontent within our society with how poorly or little he has done in the information warfare part of this Ukrainian war. Could be that he doesn't need it or doesn't care or maybe he really is getting sick, but propaganda and influencing opinions seemed to be something he was good at once.


Because it wasn’t Putin who did it, our own govts in the west did it. For right or wrong, the beliefs were born from shady govts that no longer truly represent their citizenry. From govts who chose and still actively choose the benefit of other nations over there own. You can argue Putin may be the poster child based on people’s comments, but the West’s own govts caused it.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:10 pm to
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You always got your arse kicked playing Risk, didn't ya?

Forget risk. I'm undefeated lifetime in axis and allies. Lol
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:11 pm to


Antitank obstacles in Kiev
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:12 pm to

I forgot about that one.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:20 pm to
@RALee85
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The possible wreckage of a Russian Su-34 bomber in Irpin.
LINK


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Another video of the wreckage. 2/ LINK
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:24 pm to
What am I supposed to take from those two videos?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:27 pm to
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Forget risk. I'm undefeated lifetime in axis and allies. Lol

Yeah, but one game of Axis and Allies is pretty much all you can fit into a lifetime.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:36 pm to
I’m gonna get a piece of cardboard and spray paint a white Z on the side of it the set on fire in my back yard and take a picture. Then I’m gonna upload it to YouTube with my #CajunNavyOSINT account and say it the Russian space force hypersonic bomber dropping thermobaric cluster munitions on the St Jude’s hospital for cancer kids and people that don’t read good and 75% of this board would buy it.

Then I’ll go to another account and post scenes from “The Right Stuff” and claim that the ghost of Kyiv found a rocket and blew up the Russian space bomber
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 5:37 pm
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:40 pm to
I gave you an upvote because I feel bad for you.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:42 pm to
I’ll never do anything government related again. Too many foreign friends now.
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