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Posted on 2/18/24 at 5:57 pm to trinidadtiger
Yes and those figures were from 4 months ago. I think it's a safe bet we'll have given them over $200 billion by the time the next President is sworn in in January 2025.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:00 pm to LSUPilot07
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Serve just one day for your country and then come talk to me. I served years so don’t fricking talk to me about saving this country. You wouldn’t have made it one day before you got offended, started to cry and ran to mommy you stupid cuck
I'm actually quite proud that I didn't serve in the military under George W. Bush or Obama. I am not blaming you for risking your life for zero net good to America because that was beyond your control. I'm just grateful that I didn't choose to do so.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:06 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Putin openly asked for a peace deal in his Tucker interview
The last peace deal that was on the table Putin shot down because of Bucha (which he claimed was staged) and Ukraine wanting security guarantees. I don't think Ukraine would broker any Treaty that doesn't offer that
I'll admit I haven't watched the interview (really just can't find the time, but want to) but all I can find about Putin and a peace deal is this
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When asked by Carlson about the possibility of peace in Ukraine, Putin said: “If you really want to stop fighting, you need to stop supplying weapons,” referring to Western aid to Kyiv. “It will be over within a few weeks. That’s it,” he added.
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That's saying "Stop giving the ability to fight back" not "negotiate for peace"
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During Carlson's interview, Mr Putin frequently suggested that a peace deal — on the Kremlin's terms — was possible between Russia and Ukraine.
Mr Putin insisted that Western powers were aware he would not suffer a "strategic defeat" in Ukraine, and suggested they should negotiate peace on his terms.
“It is never going to happen,” Mr Putin said of Russia's possible defeat. “It seems to me that now those who are in power in the West have come to realize this as well. If so, if the realization has set in, they have to think what to do next. We are ready for this dialogue.”
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So to me it still seems like Russia only wants to negotiate on its terms with since it sees that the can still win on the battlefield. In such, Russia is looking for "negotiations" that are more akin to complete compitulation. At least that's my take away. Am I missing anything or do you see it different?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:09 pm to trinidadtiger
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Once again Sir Winston is correct, and probably drunk, but tomorrow he will be sober, and you will still be ugly.
So again, how much CASH has the US given? You're doubling down on it being over 100B, please provide the data
As for me being ugly, it's nice of you to care about my looks
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:11 pm to StormyMcMan
I legit think you're retarded. And I'm still
at SteelersBravesDawg turning out to literally be David French. Amazing.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:14 pm to SirWinston
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I legit think you're retarded.
But you still haven't provided any data proving your $100B cash given to Ukraine statement. I'm not holding my breath that you can produce it.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:20 pm to SirWinston
You and people like you are the reason our country is fricked. We are breeding a bunch of pussies and they are “proud” about it. Tell me would you rather live on your knees or die on your feet? I ask that because there are lots of people and countries that would love nothing more than to see this country nonexistent and we have an adversary in China that has a military as close to ours since before WW2. But you’d still rather be proud and kiss the Chinese feet.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:26 pm to StormyMcMan
Looks like the first 6 Ukrainian pilots are on track to be cleared for operations in June and some aircraft will be sent with them. Another 6 by the end of the year so by Christmas Ukraine should have its first operational F-16 squadron.
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This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:33 pm to SirWinston
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Poland / Nato would fricking destroy Russia and regain Ukraine in a month.
Under the guise of a friendly "military union," and citing the threat posed by Russia, Poland could send troops to Western Ukraine and, "if we're being blunt," remain there for good, Putin argued, according to a translation of his remarks shared by Kevin Rothrock, an editor at the independent Russian media outlet Meduza.
Poland would have access to the Black Sea oil reserves. Hell of a play.
"The possibility is obvious," Putin said. "If Polish troops enter, for example, Lviv or other Ukrainian territories, they will stay there, and they will stay there forever."
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:45 pm to Tiger985
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You still haven't said why it's important.
If you don't understand why its important to keep Poland and by extension NATO out of a shooting war with Russia... (hint: both nuclear powers) then there is no way to make you understand..
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:48 pm to LSUPilot07
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You and people like you are the reason our country is fricked.
Washington is running the country into the ground, it’s why things are so bad.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:13 pm to trinidadtiger
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And most Americans are not "for" this nonsense.
Y'all, get a load of this guy who pretends to know what most Americans think, based on his conversations with Politard incels.
Y'all, pay no attention to the Pew Research poll I posted earlier today -- trinidadtiger's natural instincts are superior to any poll.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:23 pm to LSUPilot07
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You and people like you are the reason our country is fricked. We are breeding a bunch of pussies and they are “proud” about it. Tell me would you rather live on your knees or die on your feet?
He absolutely wants to live on his knees. He wants a dictator like Putin because he thinks that he can kneel before the power and then get to be a kommissar and punish people with whom he dislikes.
So much of new "woke Right" makes so much sense when you realize that they are primarily motivated by the desire to punish those with whom they disagree.
People like you who serve their country (or anyone who serves others in any way) are suckers.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:30 pm to klrstix
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If you don't understand why its important to keep Poland and by extension NATO out of a shooting war with Russia... (hint: both nuclear powers) then there is no way to make you understand..
If Russia wins in Ukraine, or if the woke Right gets its way and the US weakens its commitment to NATO, then Poland will have its own nukes within a few years.
The Poles absolutely understand the stakes here.
If those on the woke Right get their way, half of the countries of the world will develop their own nukes. We'll be heading for a much more dangerous world.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:30 pm to SirWinston
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I have 3 fraternity brothers

Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:08 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian forces will likely be able to establish new defensive lines not far beyond Avdiivka, which will likely prompt the culmination of the Russian offensive in this area.
Delays in Western security assistance to Ukraine are likely helping Russia launch opportunistic offensive operations along several sectors of the frontline in order to place pressure on Ukrainian forces along multiple axes.
Russian forces are likely seeking to take advantage of two windows of opportunity with the recent initiation of their simultaneous offensive operations—the period before the upcoming spring thaw and the nuanced dynamics of Western aid provision.
The Russian capture of Avdiivka after four months of intensified offensive operations exemplifies the way that Russian forces pursue offensive operations that do not necessarily set conditions for wider operational gains but still force Ukraine to commit manpower and materiel to defensive operations.
Russian forces have not yet demonstrated an ability to secure operationally significant gains or conduct rapid mechanized maneuver across large swaths of territory, and the capture of Avdiivka should taken as demonstrating this capability.
Ukrainian officials are investigating two instances of apparent Russian violations of the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war (POWs) in occupied Donetsk Oblast.
Russian milbloggers criticized the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) for failing to recognize 1st Donetsk People’s Republic Army Corps (DNR AC) Commander Lieutenant General Sergei Milchakov and the “Veterany” Assault Brigade (Volunteer Corps) for aiding in the Russian capture of Avdiivka, highlighting continued tension between Russian regular and irregular forces.
The Washington Post reported that the Kremlin has been orchestrating a large-scale effort to spread disinformation in the Ukrainian media since January 2023, corroborating recent Ukrainian official reports about Russian information operations that use fake Telegram channels to infiltrate the Ukrainian information space.
Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen announced on February 18 that Denmark is donating its “entire artillery” to Ukraine.
The US is reportedly turning to India and China to engage Russia about Russia’s reported intent to launch an unspecified anti-satellite nuclear weapon into space.
Russian forces recently made a confirmed advance in western Zaporizhia amid continued positional engagements along the entire line of contact on February 18.
Russian occupation officials continue to use educational programs as means of Russifying occupied Ukraine.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:24 pm to StormyMcMan
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:09 pm to klrstix
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If you don't understand why its important to keep Poland and by extension NATO out of a shooting war with Russia... (hint: both nuclear powers) then there is no way to make you understand..
You think Russia wants a shooting war with NATO and Poland?
Are you in second grade?
Something Russia wouldn't do when they were a real global power?
Russia can't get more than a good bike ride inside of Ukraine but they are ready to invade Poland and take on NATO.
This thread is full of larping retards.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:16 pm to Tiger985
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You think Russia wants a shooting war with NATO and Poland?
They want NATO to fragment and take back piecemeal the NATO members they consider theirs. The Baltics first. If they get that, they'll set their sights on Finland and parts of Poland. Lavrov, along with Putin's mouthpieces in the Russian media have been explicit about this. They're not keeping it a secret.
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