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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 4:03 pm to
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Bye fellow humans. We've had a good run.


Just look at weather forecast modeling and fear of AI and high tech melts to nothing.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 8:05 pm to
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This Russian serviceman was apparently a witness to a "flock of Ukrainian FPV drones led by a repeater drone Queen" which descended onto Russian positions and started the bombing


Terminators are coming soon. They just won't look like the movie.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:10 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The Kremlin and US officials rejected rumors about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s willingness to engage in meaningful negotiations amid continued indications from the Kremlin that Russia seeks nothing less than full Ukrainian and Western capitulation.

Russian demands for Ukrainian “neutrality” and a moratorium on NATO expansion have always been and continue to be one of Putin’s central justifications for his invasion of Ukraine, and any hypothetical concession on these demands would represent a major strategic and rhetorical retreat on Putin’s behalf that Putin is extremely unlikely to be considering at this time.

Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated boilerplate Kremlin narratives that blame Ukraine for the war while also highlighting Russian forces in the Soledar direction.

The circumstances of the January 24 crash of a Russian Il-76 military transport aircraft in Belgorod Oblast remain unclear.

The European Union (EU) will provide Ukraine with an additional five billion euros to meet “urgent military needs” in the near future.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) continues efforts to expand Russia’s influence and subsume previous Wagner Group operations in Africa.

Russia reportedly imported $1.7 billion worth of advanced microchips and semiconductors in 2023, primarily from the West, skirting Western sanctions intended to deprive Russia of such technology.

Russian forces advanced near Avdiivka amid continued positional engagements throughout the theater.

Elements of Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin’s alleged personal private military company (PMC) may have deployed to Ukraine.

Russian opposition media reported on January 26 that Viktor Filonov, a Russian soldier in the 234th Airborne Regiment (76th VDV Division) serving in Ukraine, adopted a Ukrainian child from occupied Donetsk Oblast.




ETA

The peace talk items come from this

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Bloomberg reported on January 25 that two unspecified sources close to the Kremlin stated that Putin signaled to senior US officials through indirect channels that Putin is open to negotiations, including those that would provide “security arrangements” for Ukraine.[1] Bloomberg reported that an unidentified intermediary “conveyed signals” to US officials in December 2023 that Putin may be willing to drop his insistence on Ukraine’s “neutral status” and even may ultimately abandon his opposition to Ukraine’s NATO accession.[2] This report may refer to the same supposed backchannel communications reported by the New York Times in late December 2023 about Putin’s supposed interest in a ceasefire.[3] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitri Peskov denied Bloomberg’s report on January 26, stating that reports about Russian readiness to give up its demands that Ukraine not join NATO are ”incorrect“ and “untrue.“[4] Bloomberg reported that US National Security Council Spokesperson Adrienne Watson stated that US officials are not aware of these alleged overtures, and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated on January 19 that he does not see any indication that Putin is serious about looking for a way to end the fighting in Ukraine.[5]

Putin and Kremlin officials have increasingly stressed in recent weeks that Russia has no interest in negotiating with Ukraine in good faith, that Russia’s maximalist objectives in Ukraine remain the same, and that Putin continues to pursue his overarching objective to weaken and dismantle NATO.[6] Former White House Official Fiona Hill told Bloomberg on January 26 that Russian actors want the West to create the idea of such a channel in order to scare Ukraine and frame the US as the only other relevant actor in Ukraine besides Russia.[7] Kremlin officials routinely frame the Russian war in Ukraine as a struggle against the West in order to deny Ukraine’s agency in potential negotiations and to set conditions that seek to convince the West to ignore centering Ukraine’s interests in any negotiations.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 9:13 pm
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:59 pm to
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Bloomberg reported on January 25 that two unspecified sources close to the Kremlin stated that Putin signaled to senior US officials through indirect channels that Putin is open to negotiations, including those that would provide “security arrangements” for Ukraine.[1] Bloomberg reported that an unidentified intermediary “conveyed signals” to US officials in December 2023 that Putin may be willing to drop his insistence on Ukraine’s “neutral status” and even may ultimately abandon his opposition to Ukraine’s NATO accession.[2] This report may refer to the same supposed backchannel communications reported by the New York Times in late December 2023 about Putin’s supposed interest in a ceasefire.[3] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitri Peskov denied Bloomberg’s report on January 26, stating that reports about Russian readiness to give up its demands that Ukraine not join NATO are ”incorrect“ and “untrue.“[4] Bloomberg reported that US National Security Council Spokesperson Adrienne Watson stated that US officials are not aware of these alleged overtures, and US Secretary of State Antony Blinken stated on January 19 that he does not see any indication that Putin is serious about looking for a way to end the fighting in Ukraine.[5]

I don't believe that Russia is looking for a ceasefire right now.

If they are, given the uncertainty about future US funding to Ukraine and tepid EU movement, it would be a clear indication that Russia is really, really struggling.

Putin may run out of money before Ukraine runs out of men either way.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 6:00 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 27 January 2024

Russia continues its offensive across multiple axes, in line with its strategic objective to capture the Donbas. Russian forces have seized the hamlets of Krokhmalne, Kharkiv on 21 January 2024 and Vesele, near Bakhmut on 18 January 2024; however, these are strategically insignificant. Vesele had a pre-war population of 102 and Krokhmalne, 45. This represents a continuation of Russia's minor incremental gains whilst Ukraine focuses on active defence.

The assessed main priority for Russian forces is the city of Avdiivka. The Russians are mounting a three-pronged attack to encircle the city from the south and north, and also fighting on the outskirts of the eastern quarter of Avdiivka city itself. Russian forces have suffered heavy personnel and armoured vehicle losses, frequently caused by Ukrainian uncrewed aerial vehicle munitions. Russian forces are reportedly attempting to bypass Ukrainian fortifications by entering the city edges via service tunnels; this is a method of infiltration they have been attempting since October 2023.

Ukrainian counter-attacks are holding Russian forces from progressing further within the city. As the main supply route remains intact, and Ukrainian forces make local counter-attacks, Avdiivka is likely to remain in Ukrainian control over the coming weeks.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 6:42 am to
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Russian forces advanced near Avdiivka amid continued positional engagements throughout the theater.


It seems that ISW has been reporting that Russian forces seem to be making advances (typically small) for some time in this area. I don't recall them claiming that Ukraine has.

Almost always the same language used regarding "positional engagements"...
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:31 am to
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It seems that ISW has been reporting that Russian forces seem to be making advances (typically small) for some time in this area. I don't recall them claiming that Ukraine has. Almost always the same language used regarding "positional engagements"...


I noticed that too.

Russia had been taking tiny bites here and there out of Ukraine, but I haven’t seen any maps indicating that they add up to much.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 9:59 am to
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Russian forces seem to be making advances


Yeah they might just a block of a city or a forest line but confirmed advances

This part details the confirmed advances are very small (like they got closer to a building)

quote:

Russian forces recently marginally advanced near and in Avdiivka amid continued positional fighting in the area on January 26. Geolocated footage published on January 25 indicates that Russian forces recently marginally advanced north of Stepove (3km northwest of Avdiivka) and along Sportyvna Street in the southernmost residential area of Avdiivka.[44] A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces advanced near the ”Tsarska Okhota” restaurant area in Avdiivka’s southern outskirts.[45] Positional fighting continued northwest of Avdiivka near Novobakhmutivka and Stepove, northeast of Avdiivka from Kamianka, near Avdiivka’s southeastern outskirts, and southwest of Avdiivka near Vodyane, Pervomaiske and Nevelske


ETA stupid grammer
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:06 am to
Looks like Turkey is getting the new F-16 block 70 fighters they have been wanting. $23 billion for 40 brand new F-16s and they will also receive upgrades to their existing fleet of 79. They REALLY wanted F-35s but they fricked that up when they bought S-400s from Russia.

LINK
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:09 am to
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:44 am to
Per Wikipedia

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Before 2022, Russia occupied 42,000 km2 (16,000 sq mi) of Ukrainian territory (Crimea, and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk), and occupied an additional 119,000 km2 (46,000 sq mi) after its full-scale invasion by March 2022, a total of 161,000 km2 (62,000 sq mi) or almost 27% of Ukraine's territory.[7] By 11 November, the Institute for the Study of War calculated that Ukrainian forces had liberated an area of 74,443 km2 (28,743 sq mi) from Russian occupation,[8] leaving Russia with control of about 18% of Ukraine's territory.[9]


Pre February 7% of Ukraine
Russian high point 27% of Ukraine
Current situation 18% of Ukraine

Casualties estimated ad high as 500K for both sides. Deaths who knows?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:45 am to
Pure coincidence this is announced after Turkey votes to let Sweden into NATO
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:46 am to
I hate being political on here but the honest truth is clear to me at least. Ukraine should hope that Trump does win unlike most would probably believe. Putin knows Biden is weak and he’s acted accordingly, so has China. Think about the rise in China’s military just in these last 3 years. It has been building up for over a decade but it went into overdrive these last few years. Trump will end that war. Yea there’s going to give and take on both sides and Ukraine will lose some of its land but honestly look at that land right now anyway. If it weren’t for the natural resources in that area I doubt Ukraine would even really care about taking back destroyed section of their country. Biden is too weak to get this to the negotiating table where all wars end that aren’t absolutely defeated with unconditional surrender by one side ends (WW2). Putin knows Trump will actually follow through with what he promises, or threatens, and he’s not going to play care free like he’s done since this war began.
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 10:53 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42759 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:57 am to
Unfortunately I don’t think Trump can win; although I think Biden is working overtime to let Trump back in.

I suspect Biden bows out for health reasons and his replacement comes in as a white knight to save the country. At least that’s how the media will sell it. Trump will have so many legal issues and diversions that he won’t have much of a chance.

I hope I’m wrong, but remember he lost the popular vote to Hillary a very unpopular candidate. He lost by six million to Biden under the new voting laws that permitted vote harvesting. I don’t see that much had changed and although the electoral college is a different animal; Trump won’t be able to get enough of the swing states.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:04 am to
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Putin may run out of money before Ukraine runs out of men either way.


I wonder how far the Russian military, freezing, under extreme duress and constant fear of death, will go to satisfy Putin's ambition.

This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:11 am to
Giving Ukraine a slow trickle of the arms that it needs due to Biden's weakness is the problem. Russia is stuck on Soviet era WWII tactics and policies.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8662 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:07 pm to
I think the democrats fricking around trying every underhanded truck to get Trump out of the race comes back to bite them in the arse. Trump has a lot of support from places he didn’t have in 2020 or even 2016. I think Biden is going to run and they do everything they can to hide him and keep him away from a microphone like they do Kamala. Most importantly they want to keep him off a debate stage with Trump.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
17727 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:54 pm to
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I think the democrats fricking around trying every underhanded truck to get Trump out of the race comes back to bite them in the arse


Placing those thousands of highly classified documents in Trump’s bathroom and then proving how he tried to hide them from investigators was especially heinous.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:56 pm to
Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews

Meanwhile in Russia: Sergey Mardan rejoiced at the US border scandal, pointing out that it's being blown up as part of Trump's election tactics. He mocked Ukrainians, since these GOP games caused the aid to Ukraine to be blocked.

Youtube
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Placing those thousands of highly classified documents in Trump’s bathroom and then proving how he tried to hide them from investigators was especially heinous.


Now do Biden and Clinton's sock drawer.
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