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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:11 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:11 am to Darth_Vader
You people sound like the “George bush doesn’t care about black people” retards after Katrina
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:19 am to Darth_Vader
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The fact they see it and you don’t doesn’t make them stupid.
Quite the opposite, in fact.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:19 am to Hateradedrink
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You people sound like the “George bush doesn’t care about black people” retards after Katrina
Stop with the “you people”. I remain today as I have since the start of this war, namely strictly neutral. I am not arguing for or against either side of the matter. What I am doing is pointing out the optics of Biden’s seemingly inactivity when it comes to Hawaii compared to Ukraine. From the outside looking in, and not being clouded by emotion, I can see how many people would have a problem with it. It is a valid political point. The fact you don’t like it, doesn’t invalidate it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:20 am to Hateradedrink
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You people sound like the “George bush doesn’t care about black people” retards after Katrina
Except for the fact that Bush actually flew to Louisiana and was being bashed for not landing, and Biden couldn't even be bothered to comment about Maui while on vacation, I can certainly see how a dishonest person could come to this conclusion.
ETA: A more similar comparison would have been how Ted Cruz was treated for being on vacation during the Texas blizzards, but of course he could do nothing to help that situation while Biden actually can do something to help Maui.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:23 am to Darth_Vader
The Biden administrations failures on Hawaii anew another example of its failures as a whole.
The administration is also slow walking what Ukraine needs to have a chance. Most of the donations are way late from when needed.
As a whole this administration is a failure on a lot of fronts.
The administration is also slow walking what Ukraine needs to have a chance. Most of the donations are way late from when needed.
As a whole this administration is a failure on a lot of fronts.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:25 am to Darth_Vader
quote:i would be A LOT more willing to take their criticism as legitimate if it hasnt largely been done by the same people who have done nothing but complain about our aid to ukraine at every single aspect of this conflict and have used every single talking point possible to do so
You’re allowing your emotions to cloud your judgement on this matter and it’s blinding you to what millions of other Americans can see, specifically how Biden is very interested in sending tens of billions to Ukraine while basically doing nothing to help Hawaii. The fact they see it and you don’t doesn’t make them stupid.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:29 am to WestCoastAg
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complain about our aid to ukraine
It's a valid complaint. Our government is broke. This conflict only affects us because we inserted ourselves into it.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:33 am to imjustafatkid
Ukrainians already undergoing training on Swedish-made Gripen jets – Zelenskyy
European Pravda, Ukrainska Pravda — Saturday, 19 August 2023, 16:45
The Ukrainian pilots have begun participating in an introductory training exercise on Swedish-made JAS 39 Gripen fighter jets, which Kyiv hopes to receive.
Source: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a press conference following talks with Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, as reported by European Pravda.
Quote from Zelenskyy: "Gripen aircraft are the pride of Sweden. I firmly believe that Gripen can make our freedom much more secure. Gripen test flights involving Ukrainians, our pilots, have begun."
Details: The Ukrainian president added that he and the Swedish Prime Minister had thoroughly discussed further steps on the prospect of raising the issue of supplying Ukraine with Gripen aircraft.
"I will meet with the Speaker of the [Swedish] Parliament, representatives of parliamentary faction parties and push this issue as one of the crucial ones to protect our skies," he said.
Ukrainska Pravda
European Pravda, Ukrainska Pravda — Saturday, 19 August 2023, 16:45
The Ukrainian pilots have begun participating in an introductory training exercise on Swedish-made JAS 39 Gripen fighter jets, which Kyiv hopes to receive.
Source: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy during a press conference following talks with Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, as reported by European Pravda.
Quote from Zelenskyy: "Gripen aircraft are the pride of Sweden. I firmly believe that Gripen can make our freedom much more secure. Gripen test flights involving Ukrainians, our pilots, have begun."
Details: The Ukrainian president added that he and the Swedish Prime Minister had thoroughly discussed further steps on the prospect of raising the issue of supplying Ukraine with Gripen aircraft.
"I will meet with the Speaker of the [Swedish] Parliament, representatives of parliamentary faction parties and push this issue as one of the crucial ones to protect our skies," he said.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:33 am to WestCoastAg
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i would be A LOT more willing to take their criticism as legitimate if it hasnt largely been done by the same people who have done nothing but complain about our aid to ukraine at every single aspect of this conflict and have used every single talking point possible to do so
None the less, Biden’s actions, or lack thereof, on Hawaii only serves to give his critics more fodder.
Let’s face it, the optics are terrible from a political standpoint. It appears he is willing to send tens of billions of dollars to a country with seemingly little to no strategic interest to the US while one of the actual states in the US is suffering a terrible natural disaster where perhaps over a thousand American citizens are missing and probably dead and Biden can’t even be bothered to so much as comment on the situation.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:36 am to WestCoastAg
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exhibit A
Yes, thinking Americans are anathema to people who tow the party line. When everyone looks back on this conflict as a massive mistake, the same as we do with Korea or Vietnam, or the "war on terror," I'll be able to say I was always viewing this conflict honestly while you'll be forced to admit you want war over American interests.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:41 am to Darth_Vader
quote:who would be critical of him for literally no matter what he did/does
None the less, Biden’s actions, or lack thereof, on Hawaii only serves to give his critics more fodder.
quote:except when he has
nd Biden can’t even be bothered to so much as comment on the situation.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:42 am to GOP_Tiger
" why is the federal government spending money on cancer research, when we could send that money to Hawaii?"
" Why is the government spending money on ensuring safe drinking water, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
" Why is the federal government spending money on new road construction, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
" Why is the federal government spending money on NASA, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
" Why is the government spending money on ensuring safe drinking water, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
" Why is the federal government spending money on new road construction, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
" Why is the federal government spending money on NASA, when that money could be sent to Hawaii?"
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:46 am to Darth_Vader
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what millions of other Americans can see
I have no problem saying that millions of Americans are stupid. Just look at the politicians they vote for.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:50 am to GOP_Tiger
Smdh groomers itt wanting to support Maui
Open your eyes sheeple, giving money to Maui is like giving money to satan
Open your eyes sheeple, giving money to Maui is like giving money to satan
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:56 am to Hateradedrink
Are we supposed to know who that random person on Truth Social is?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:56 am to Darth_Vader
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While I have no doubt Russia has seized upon the propaganda aspects of how little Biden is doing for Hawaii compared to Ukraine, to call those Americans “gullible” who question why Hawaii is seemingly being ignored while Ukraine gets billions, is absurd. It’s a valid point even if you support sending aid to Ukraine.
It’s not an either or situation.
I’ve been saying this all along about aid to Ukraine when opponents of aiding Ukraine suggest that instead of aiding Ukraine we could build the border wall, invest in infrastructure, or whatever. The fact is Biden wouldn’t spend the money that way.
Biden is seen as asleep at the wheel when it comes to Hawaii only because he is. It has nothing to do with Ukraine. It had everything to do with how inept the Biden administration is.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:58 am to imjustafatkid
Why are you denying what the white hats are doing
Russian special forces will save us by removing the woke generals
Russian special forces will save us by removing the woke generals
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:00 am to Hateradedrink
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Hateradedrink
Which PT poster is that? Gumbo or CajunAngelle would be my guesses.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:01 am to Hateradedrink
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Why are you denying what the white hats are doing
I guess I'd have to ask you the same. You clearly keep up with these theories.
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