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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:48 pm to
So my kid and I were messing around on ADS-b exchange. I went to look at the no fly zone over Ukraine. Noticed some really interesting things just west of their border. Like LOTS of NATO flights, mainly cargo type stuff, but a few other things to. Here's a sample.









This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:50 pm to
From what I understand NATO aircraft are running combat air patrols along the borders with Ukraine in both Poland and Romania. The fighters don’t have their transponders on but the AWACS and aerial refueling planes do.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:51 pm to
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So, I asked him his background to be able to make such a statement.

Seems pretty straightforward.


Credentials truly don’t matter. They’re irrelevant to establishing the truth.

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Again, the original question was a single launch. He made the statement that we can't even stop a single Russian ICBM because they're so advanced, and that our BMD systems are only for "low tech" ICBMs like from North Korea.


Even with a single missile launch, there’s an unacceptable risk that the enemy missile slips through.

And it’s not that the Russian weapons are too sophisticated, we’re trying to do something thats really hard and also requires perfection, a perfect interception rate.

That’s just not going to happen, ever.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:51 pm to
They have been around for a few days, some refueling planes, recon and transport. RAF, USAF and NATO planes
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:52 pm to
Sirens going off in Kiev again. Still not seeing any fighting on any of the webcams and still haven't heard any planes overhead.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:58 pm to
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Credentials truly don’t matter. They’re irrelevant to establishing the truth.


They most certainly do. There's a vast difference between someone who has been involved with BMD on the military side with access to classified capabilities data versus some random internet guy reading wikipedia.

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Even with a single missile launch, there’s an unacceptable risk that the enemy missile slips through.



Then what's the point? Why bother developing GMD, THAAD, Aegis, etc. since that's just not going to happen, ever?

Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:00 pm to
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Then what's the point? Why bother developing GMD, THAAD, Aegis, etc. since that's just not going to happen, ever?


The real friends we made along the way were the military contractors who got fat on weapons that will never be used.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Russia is trying to overwhelm with quantity, not quality.


It is what they do. They had something like 10 million casualties on the Eastern Front in World War II.

Coincidentally the Soviets and Germans clashed over this same ground in Kiev and Kharkov in 1941-1943.
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Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Coincidentally the Soviets and Germans clashed over this same ground in Kiev and Kharkov in 1941-1943.

Those who don't learn from history....
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Those who don't learn from history....


An early thaw has the Ruskies roadbound.

Go off the road and they are getting stuck in the mud.

The front was pretty static in the spring due to this in WWII.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:08 pm to
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off the road and they are getting stuck in the mud.

They should borrow some tractors from the Ukranian baws.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Just got out of the lab after doing repairs on a piece of equipment


Posted by h0bnail
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Yeah look that this stud


Private Pyle IRL
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Russia is trying to overwhelm with quantity, not quality.


Back in the day they could shoot those who were unsufficiently motivated to go into battle half starved, with substandard training and equipment. Nobody can get away with that these days except Kim Jong Un.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:13 pm to
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They should borrow some tractors from the Ukranian baws.


Bout to go open up a tank customization shop. Thos baws on forces wouldn't be getting stuck

Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:13 pm to
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kisatchie53


Eh, I’m in the dark after being stuck in a room where cell phones aren’t allowed and need an update on what I missed. Not that yall needed a reason, I just thought it would help speed things along to getting the information I wanted.
Posted by kisatchie53
Member since Jul 2011
1964 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Eh, I’m in the dark after being stuck in a room where cell phones aren’t allowed and need an update on what I missed. Not that yall needed a reason, I just thought it would help speed things along to getting the information I wanted.


I’m messing with ya. Last I just saw is China condemned Russia on the attacks. There was pictures posted of 2 young Russian POWs. Not sure if updates on battleground as far as cities taken or anything
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:17 pm to
Ukraine now claiming that dissident elements within the Russian FSB are feeding them intel.
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:19 pm to
You love to see it
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Ukraine now claiming that dissident elements within the Russian FSB are feeding them intel.



I half expected that a lot of these supply line problems might be self-sabotage by disgruntled Russian service members who don’t want to go down as the military that plunged the world into WWIII.

It’s not the only possible reason for the problems, but it could at least be part of the problem. Id slow-roll the movement of infantry if it meant a peace settlement could be reached before nukes were deployed.
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