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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:13 am to
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You counter Russian propaganda with British propaganda?


Are you suggesting the video is made up of deep fakes or the translations are inaccurate? If not it is just showing Russian state TV video.

I have posted lots of these videos over the last year and it is clear the talking points have changed multiple times.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:28 am to
From @NOELreports:

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Alexander Khodakovsky -commander of the pro-Russian Vostok Battalion- hints towards a total shortage/absence of ammunition. The Russian command stopped issueing new ammunition to area's where no hostilities occur to save it for the upcoming Ukrainian offensive.


Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:39 am to
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That's what I thought too, but I keep coming back to the fact that all of the images were slides that had been printed out on paper, and then someone took photos of the papers and uploaded them.

That makes it seem that MrLucca did not have access to the original electronic files of the slides. Because, otherwise, why not just share the slides themselves?


If these were actual secret documents then I would think file auditing (for tracking access) would be enabled. Reading, printing, copying would be tracked. Whoever the leaker is knew this or did not have read access to the files to begin with but did have access to hardcopys.

So maybe these were legitimate hardcopys handed out at meetings/briefings attended by MrLucca or an accomplice.

This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:42 am to
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I’m not in favor of Russia.


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Enjoy Russia at Natos doorstep instead of the other way you hoped.

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 10:42 am to
I think both sides are starting to really feel the sting of ammunition shortages.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:17 am to
Step back and look at the big picture, abd it’s obvious that Russia is running this show, and only Russia can stop the war.

Day one Russia invaded. They chose war and no matter what reason you give them they chose war.

The US and the West had a choice; stay out of honor past commitments to stand by Ukraine. They chose option 2.
If they had not Russia likely could have already conquered Ukraine or there would still be warfare.

Eventually though with no Western aid Ukraine would lose. Russia would be on NATO’s border. Ukraine would be devastated and thousand of soldiers and civilians would be dead or impridoned.

Those that oppose Western involvement would have you believe that the West is causing the death and destruction. That the West should have stayed away and let Russia do what Russia has been doing and take over more of Ukraine and that would save lives and dollars. They try and make the case that Ukraine is of no importance even though we all see the extreme reaction from European nations like Poland, Finland, Sweden and others who have seen the evil in Russia for decades.

Western surrender or Western apathy will not stop the killing. It will only embolden Russia more. Surrender will not solve anything, it was too late when Russia chose to let loose the hounds of war again last year.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:20 am to
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Alexander Khodakovsky -commander of the pro-Russian Vostok Battalion- hints towards a total shortage/absence of ammunition. The Russian command stopped issuing new ammunition to area's where no hostilities occur to save it for the upcoming Ukrainian offensive.



Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:24 am to
Your "gotcha" on Ukrainian shell hunger was discussed in this very thread several days ago too.

Wonder if it could be that both sides are rationing ammo down to bare minimum as they prepare to attack and defend ahead of the fighting season?
This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:29 am to
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Your "gotcha" on Ukrainian shell hunger was discussed in this very thread several days ago too.


The article was posted today, sorry the contents make you uncomfortable.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:31 am to
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The article was posted today, sorry the contents make you uncomfortable.

It was discussed in a video posted in the thread. You think your article is the only source aware of the issue?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:32 am to
I always start with every reporter is a moron who doesn't understand much other than how to write well or look good and speak well on TV. It matters which website, blog, or MSM news outlet they are on. Some just want to be noticed as authorities on subjects (such as the parade of idiots interviewed by Tucker regarding Ukraine) or by Judge Napolitano on his Judging Freedom channel.

Quite interesting that I just got off the phone with an Iraqi born engineer, college in Ukraine, who got to the US due being an interpreter for the US in Iraq. He recently became a citizen. Per him, Russia has devastated Ukraine and to blame.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 11:56 am to

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Facing critical ammunition shortage, Ukrainian troops ration shells.










Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:13 pm to
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Quite interesting that I just got off the phone with an Iraqi born engineer, college in Ukraine, who got to the US due being an interpreter for the US in Iraq. He recently became a citizen. Per him, Russia has devastated Ukraine and to blame.



Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:17 pm to
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It was discussed in a video posted in the thread. You think your article is the only source aware of the issue?


I simply posted an article that was published today, not sure why this is an issue for you. I don't see you melting about the 17,343 redundant pro-Ukrainian posts
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:23 pm to
Truly sad to see all of these Ukrainian losses continue to pour in daily for a "non-strategic" location.







Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:33 pm to
Interesting to see MICLICs (UR-77 and M58) being used offensively. I am curious if any US vets ever saw them used offensively, I certainly did not. If you could lay them down in trenchwork they would indeed be devastating. This is the third video of them in use I have seen in the last week or so.



Twitter vid
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2867 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:33 pm to
From the "War News Update" website WNU

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WNU Editor: The Western media narrative is that Russia's military forces are suffering staggering losses .... 177,000 Dead: Putin Might Win In Bakhmut, But His Ukraine War is a Disaster (19FortyFive), and that they are all surrendering .... Putin's Forces Are Surrendering at Surging Pace: Ukraine Official (Newsweek).

The Ukrainian sources that I trust tell me that the battle for Bakhmut has resulted in Ukraine losing thousands of its best soldiers defending a city where Russian fire-power was at a magnitude 7 to 10 times greater than what Ukraine could muster, and more importantly, the expenditure and loss of munitions and equipment that will be difficult to replace.

The Russia sources that I trust tell me that the city has been "operationally surrounded" for weeks, and there are currently thousands of Ukrainian soldiers trapped in a small pocket in the Western section of the city.


The editor works with Ukrainian refugees in Canada and supports Ukraine but has held a more pessimistic outlook of the long-term chances of a Ukrainian victory.

He has a long list of "favorite blogs" on the left side of the homepage but i know several are no longer updated (eg Blackfive).
This post was edited on 4/8/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Truly sad to see all of these Ukrainian losses continue to pour in daily for a "non-strategic" location.


I would say it's non strategic, but holds a shite ton of emotional value seeing as Russia has been about to take it over for at least 9 months and has thus far failed to complete it. It looks bad for Russia to not have captured it thus far and good for Ukraine to have held it. Of course once it falls the optics reverse, but the strategic value still isn't there.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20970 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Your "gotcha" on Ukrainian shell hunger was discussed in this very thread several days ago too.

Wonder if it could be that both sides are rationing ammo down to bare minimum as they prepare to attack and defend ahead of the fighting season?


I mean, we've discussed Ukrainian shell hunger in here since last summer. It's been a constant. What's new is the current level of Russian shell hunger.

Ukraine has been able to somewhat compensate for its fewer shells with more accuracy, as both sides consistently say that Ukraine has more drones in the air to correct fire, Ukraine has more counter-battery radars, and Ukraine also has Excalibur rounds and HIMARS.

But, overall, the artillery battle has favored Russia so far in the war.

The Khodakovsky quote is interesting not only for the implication that Russia is not sending shells to low-intensity areas of the front, but also because of why: Russia has begun to stockpile ammo in anticipation of the Ukrainian spring offensive.

That's the key thing now -- not how much is distributed to frontline units, but how much has been prepared by both sides.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/8/23 at 1:01 pm to
Well if he has Russian sources I think we should trust it.
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