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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/12/23 at 1:38 pm to Steve Rogers
Posted on 3/12/23 at 1:38 pm to Steve Rogers
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Emergency blankets with the reflective surface is a good way to hide from it.
In Afghanistan we started noticing Taliban carrying something over their head when they moved at night. Couldnt really tell what it was with night/thermal vision.
Blow a few up and go out to the site and they were carrying car mats above their head so the "satellites" wouldnt see them. It didnt work.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 1:48 pm to Lakeboy7
Interesting comment from @Tatarigami_UA, who is commanding a Ukrainian unit near Vuhledar right now:
It's interesting to think about the fact that detailed satellite imagery is available to anyone who wants to pay for it can lead to lots of "random teenage students" discovering critical movements of enemy personnel and materiel.
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I want to express my sincere gratitude to the global OSINT community for their invaluable assistance in helping to save countless Ukrainian soldiers' lives by locating and preventing further harm from occupiers. Despite being dismissed by some as 'keyboard warriors,' these individuals selflessly give their time and even money to help Ukraine.
It's worth noting that even though russians accuse the entire Western intelligence of working against them, they may be surprised to learn that some of their most expensive equipment has been lost due to the efforts of some random teenage student who paid attention to details.
It's interesting to think about the fact that detailed satellite imagery is available to anyone who wants to pay for it can lead to lots of "random teenage students" discovering critical movements of enemy personnel and materiel.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:49 pm to GOP_Tiger
Interesting! Anybody on this board do this?
Posted on 3/12/23 at 2:52 pm to GOP_Tiger
Updated maps of the north eastern front including the Bakhmut area, shows 3 Ukrainian Brigades still in Bakhmut. Right click, open in new tab to zoom in.
https://twitter.com/Pouletvolant3/status/1634840980225667074
Bakhmut
https://twitter.com/Pouletvolant3/status/1634840980225667074
Bakhmut
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:07 pm to Chromdome35
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Notable Russian sources, including those close to Wagner, report that the armed forces of Ukraine have a large strike group made up of up to 10 brigades currently in Chasiv Yar, preparing to conduct a wide counterattack in the Bakhmut direction.
They claim that Ukraine will probably be using new Leopard tanks and strike drones during this attack.
LINK
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??Soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine says his unit attempted to enter Bakhmut yesterday (March 11), but their position got hit with an airstrike.
LINK
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If anyone knows what’s going on Inside of Bakhmut it would be Rob, especially considering he was literally in the City with @KofmanMichael about a week ago talking with Ukrainian Soldiers and Commanders and from what he is saying the Bakhmut Front is in Trouble.
1: Bakhmut is no longer a good place to attrit Russian forces
2: The attrition ratio became worse once Russia seized the northern flank in mid/late-Feb
3: The attrition ratio in Bakhmut is worse than elsewhere
4: The % of Russian casualties from elite units is higher elsewhere
LINK
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:10 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:reminds me of:
Blow a few up and go out to the site and they were carrying car mats above their head so the "satellites" wouldnt see them. It didnt work.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:36 pm to jeffsdad
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Interesting! Anybody on this board do this?
Might be a little pricey because those are for profit companies which own such satellite surveillance. There are a number of commercial as well as R&D uses for it. Modern technology is that they can be a little larger than an open laptop and do the job. They might not have enough resolution to see whether a person is holding a spoon or fork in the hand but good enough.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:37 pm to Obtuse1
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A lot of bodies in an open field. Just nuts and evidence of human waves. Anyone think it is DPICM was involved?
Just hope that they all had a bunch of sunflower seeds in their pockets.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:38 pm to northshorebamaman
LINK
Oh please. The White House and the NSC are full of whiny toddlers.
Meanwhile, our military actually wants Ukraine to win:
Oh please. The White House and the NSC are full of whiny toddlers.
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There has also been, at times, frustration about Washington’s delivery of weapons to Ukraine. The United States has, by far, sent the most weapons and equipment to the front, but Kyiv has always looked ahead for the next set of supplies. Though most in the administration have been understanding about Kyiv’s desperation to defend itself, there have been grumblings about the constant requests and, at times, Zelenskyy not showing appropriate gratitude, according to two White House officials not authorized to speak publicly about private conversations.
Meanwhile, our military actually wants Ukraine to win:
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“I do think the administration is split, the National Security Council split” on what weapons to send to Ukraine, said McCaul, who’s in constant touch with senior Biden officials. “I talk to a lot of top military brass and they are, in large part, supportive of giving them the ATACMS.”
Posted on 3/12/23 at 3:43 pm to GOP_Tiger
We don’t have a huge surplus of ATACMS. Pretty sure that’s why Ukraine isn’t getting them. We’re saving them for China
Posted on 3/12/23 at 4:04 pm to GOP_Tiger
We just don’t have that many to give is the problem. I know there has been talk about this weapon having low stocks and this weapon and that one but the ATACMS REALLY IS one of those weapons. This isn’t to say we still shouldn’t give them some, we should. It just might only be 50-100 instead of 1,000 like Ukraine would probably want. The good thing about these are though, even 50 can make a huge difference in the conflict if they are fired at and hit the right targets like the Kerch Bridge, huge ammo/weapons dumps, rail bridges and senior command posts.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 4:17 pm to GOP_Tiger
Few things I picked up on twitter
An expansion on Tartargami's previous thread about the Russian assault groups.
Twitter - @TartarigamiUA
Ukrainian MoD with an obvious but slick propaganda video, it ticks all the boxes to stir the heart and promises a "part two" in weeks to come, if this is them setting up the information sphere I would expect preparative moves to start happening on some side of their stated timeline.
Twitter - DefenceU
Update from Kyianyn on Bahkmut - sounds more optimistic than previous ones last week.
Twitter - @wartranslated
A report/video on the training of Ukrainian units in the UK
Twitter - @wartranslated
Rob Lee on Bahkmut - he was there a week or so ago so would have some insight into the situations realities. I find the mention of Russia only having a division in reserve in the shared screenshot interesting considering some claims (Scott Ritter, so huge grain of rock salt) that Russia has as many as 300k in reserve to push still.
Twitter - @RALee85
Edit: Clarity
An expansion on Tartargami's previous thread about the Russian assault groups.
Twitter - @TartarigamiUA
Ukrainian MoD with an obvious but slick propaganda video, it ticks all the boxes to stir the heart and promises a "part two" in weeks to come, if this is them setting up the information sphere I would expect preparative moves to start happening on some side of their stated timeline.
Twitter - DefenceU
Update from Kyianyn on Bahkmut - sounds more optimistic than previous ones last week.
Twitter - @wartranslated
A report/video on the training of Ukrainian units in the UK
Twitter - @wartranslated
Rob Lee on Bahkmut - he was there a week or so ago so would have some insight into the situations realities. I find the mention of Russia only having a division in reserve in the shared screenshot interesting considering some claims (Scott Ritter, so huge grain of rock salt) that Russia has as many as 300k in reserve to push still.
Twitter - @RALee85
Edit: Clarity
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 3/12/23 at 4:26 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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We don’t have a huge surplus of ATACMS. Pretty sure that’s why Ukraine isn’t getting them. We’re saving them for China
We can make more. In fact, we even have a fair number of expired missiles that we can restore.
The reason that they haven't been restored is that we are spending that money on PrSM instead.
This past summer, the Senate Armed Services Committee allocated $100 million to restore ATACMS missiles, so that we would have even more to send to Ukraine if we wanted to, and the Pentagon/White House got that money taken back out of the budget.
So, no, the stock of our ATACMS is not the real issue. That's just a convenient excuse.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
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So, no, the stock of our ATACMS is not the real issue. That's just a convenient excuse.
Seems like, at this point, that if they want that range and capability they are going to have to build it themselves.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:07 pm to cypher
Not if the British give them Storm Shadow, which they have all but stated that they are doing.
Storm Shadow is better in that it carries more ordinance. It's slower and might be slightly more likely for Russia to shoot it down, but most will probably reach their targets.
Storm Shadow is better in that it carries more ordinance. It's slower and might be slightly more likely for Russia to shoot it down, but most will probably reach their targets.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:07 pm to GOP_Tiger
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the stock of our ATACMS is not the real issue.
It really is man, we just dont have that many.
Now, could we give them 20 or so, absolutely.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:09 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:I think it's also interesting that Ukraine seems to have a working mechanism to integrate external random information into their operational plans effectively. Somebody over there is very smart, and others are willing to trust him (them).
It's interesting to think about the fact that detailed satellite imagery is available to anyone who wants to pay for it can lead to lots of "random teenage students" discovering critical movements of enemy personnel and materiel.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
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We can make more. In fact, we even have a fair number of expired missiles that we can restore. The reason that they haven't been restored is that we are spending that money on PrSM instead. This past summer, the Senate Armed Services Committee allocated $100 million to restore ATACMS missiles, so that we would have even more to send to Ukraine if we wanted to, and the Pentagon/White House got that money taken back out of the budget. So, no, the stock of our ATACMS is not the real issue. That's just a convenient excuse.
My googling says that about 4K missiles have been produced and not all of those belong to the US. Ukraine is going to shoot them a lot faster that we can produce them. Hell man, they’re basically out of GMLRS missiles as it is for the HIMARS.
ATACMS is a central part of our strategy in a potential war with China. We’re not just going to give them away unless it’s absolutely necessary. Believe it or not most people believe that equipping and training our own military takes precedence over Ukraine.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:12 pm to Lakeboy7
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It really is man, we just dont have that many.
But the reason that we don't have more is that the White House specifically took the money out of the budget for us to have more.
That's a choice. And the reason that the White House/NSC likely made that choice is precisely so that they could say that we don't have enough, because the NSC idiots are scared that giving ATACMS is too escalatory.
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