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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:39 pm to
Budanov is always a fascinating interview. It's long, so I've quoted the parts that I found most interesting.

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This is a translation of an interview with the Chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of Ukraine (GUR), Kyrylo Budanov, published by Forbes.ua on 22 February 2023.
On the current Russian offensive and mobilization:
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(Interviewer): Russia is currently on the offensive along almost the entire eastern front. Is this the big offensive that has been talked about for the last two months, or should we expect something else from Russia in March?

(Budanov): The big Russian offensive they are aiming for is already underway. But it’s going on so well that not everyone even sees it – this is the quality of this offensive. They have a strategic objective – to reach the administrative borders of Donetsk and Luhansk regions by March 31.
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(I): Western media actively wrote that mass mobilization would begin in Russia in late January or early February. They predicted numbers of up to 500,000 people. Now it doesn’t look like it has started.

(B): Who told you that it hasn’t? It is hidden.

(I): Is it possible to recruit that many people in secret?

(B): In a country with a population of over 100 million, what’s the problem with recruiting 500,000?

(I): What do we know about mobilization in Russia now, since the numbers vary?

(B): During the first open wave of mobilization, they recruited just over 316,000. The question here is: if everything is fine in Russia and they have drafted another 316,000, then why continue the mobilization? It means that everything is not good. This leads us to a simple conclusion: how many casualties are there in the Russian Federation? This figure is sky-high.
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(I): Is there an understanding of how many people they can call up, not in terms of the number of people, but how many assault rifles, armored vehicles, tanks they can issue?

(B): There are enough assault rifles for any number of people, and there are not enough armored vehicles now, but this does not bother them at all. Many units are being formed from scratch. They are going without equipment, in Ural trucks and Kamaz trucks. They no longer have BMPs or armored personnel carriers. All the equipment is being removed from long-term storage, they have already removed more than 60%, leaving about 35% that can be quickly restored. The production is single, and it does not cover the needs.

On Bakhmut:
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(B): As a patriot and a military man, surrendering even a millimeter of the territory is a disaster. This is my personal logic. You can agree with it or not. From a military point of view, holding Bakhmut allows us to deter the Russians in that area and inflict catastrophic losses on them.

(I): Are we exhausting them in this way?

(B): We are exhausting them and defending our territory, which cannot be assessed in the context of whether it is advisable or inexpedient to leave.

(I): We are talking about redistributing forces, not just surrendering the city. Perhaps it would be more efficient to use people in other areas?

(B): I do not agree with this logic.

On Russian ammo and weapons production:
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(I): You mentioned earlier that Russia is significantly depleting its stockpile of equipment and shells, including 152-caliber ones. That they have about 30% of the total number of shells left. How can they go on the offensive with that amount of shells and such equipment?

(B): They can’t. That’s why not everyone even notices this “huge offensive”. As for the weapons stockpile, they are now setting up mass production of artillery shells. This once again confirms that there are no stockpiles of shells, there are not enough.

For two months now, the Russian groups operating in our country have been living in a mode of maximum ammunition saving. More or less normally, ammunition is now being used exclusively in Bakhmut and the Liman sector. They tried to storm Vuhledar several times and will continue to try, so we could add this location. In all other areas, ammunition is being saved.
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(I): Electronics imports from China increased by 500%, six times over the past year. There are components there that are needed to make missiles. Are we doing anything on our part, or can we do anything to prevent these components from reaching Russia?

(B): These are exclusively civilian goods and microcircuits that can have dual use. This is a problem. If you import a vacuum cleaner, it is a vacuum cleaner. Based on the realities in which Russia lives, they have to buy millions of such equipment and disassemble it into microchips.

This is a great shame even for Russian ideology. They have reached the point where they buy washing machines and vacuum cleaners and disassemble them into microchips that they will then insert into missiles.

On the future:
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(I): What are your conclusions about the fighting by the end of spring and by the end of the year?

(B): Nothing has changed, and there will be decisive battles from mid to late spring.

(I): Will they decide the fate of the war?

(B): Yes, this is a turning point.

(I): If you apply a football analogy to the 12 months of the great war. What is the score, and what is the minute of the match?

(B): The score is 1-1, and the minute is 70.


A soccer match is 90 minutes, so Budanov is implying that Ukraine could win the war by July.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Burhead
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:49 pm to
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@Faytuks · 7m Moldova, at the direction of the West, have taken a course of curtailing all forms of interaction with Transnistria, the situation in this area has deteriorated significantly, Russia's deputy Foreign Minister says - TASS


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OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
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The Russian Ministry of Defense has just released a statement claiming that Ukrainian and “Azov” Forces are preparing to stage “False Provocations” from the Breakaway-Region of Transnistria in order to provide justification for an Invasion of Moldova.


The Russian MoD further states that they are keeping a Close-Eye on the Region and that they are prepared to respond to any change in the Situation.

This statement is eerily similar to statements made by the Russian Government and MoD prior to the Invasion of Ukraine in order to provide justification for why they were conducting the “Special Military Operation”; this is something to closely monitor.


Whelp when the Russians use Azov as an excuse they're getting ready for something.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:50 pm to
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What exactly is Russia able to do? They have a thousand or so troops in Transnistria that I've seen described as 'poor quality'. To reinforce them they'd have to run a Ukrainian missile gauntlet, assuming they have any troops to spare. TBH I don't know why Ukraine hasn't pushed their shite in months ago.


Likely with rampant STD's from the local prostites with both very high in Moldova
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:51 pm to
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Are we getting WW3 or not


Russia keeps threatening but FAFO in Ukraine so likely to collapse completely if escalation
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:53 pm to
The former Soviet "stans" are in the Russian version of NATO but they have been giving Russia a bunch of crap. K Stan may be closer to China in trade anyway. It also moved tanks to border months ago because of Russian aggression.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:56 pm to
There were 24 pages added to this thread today; most of them were crap.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:06 pm to
according to russia, at different times poland has wanted to invade ukraine, ukraine has wanted to invade belarus, and now ukraine is going to invade moldova

this time is different!!!
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:09 pm to
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Budanov is always a fascinating interview. It's long, so I've quoted the parts that I found most interesting.


That’s one of the most delusional, but also at times somewhat realistic things I’ve ever read.

He floats back and forth between delusion of the offensive going so well people can’t see it and potentially being honest about artillery and equipment stock drawdowns to a point of stated preservation and flat out of useable equipment from storage.
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:10 pm to
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There were 24 pages added to this thread today; most of them were crap.


Agree. The 24 pages were largely the quality of this major Russian offensive
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:32 pm to
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A soccer match is 90 minutes, so Budanov is implying that Ukraine could win the war by July.


I hope he isn't adding injury time for the Russian team.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:45 pm to
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That’s one of the most delusional, but also at times somewhat realistic things I’ve ever read. ?

He floats back and forth between delusion of the offensive going so well people can’t see it and potentially being honest about artillery and equipment stock drawdowns to a point of stated preservation and flat out of useable equipment from storage.

He was being sarcastic about the state of the Russian offensive.
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 12:11 am to
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Soloyov and his baws decided they need to take care of the Polish problem and if they aren't ready yet they can practice on Estonia.

Their mouths are writing a whole lot of checks that will be returned marked NSF or maybe even FAFO.



If the translation is accurate this has to be one of their finest moments:

"It's brilliant that we haven't fallen apart in the past year, but in the second year we need to show some progress"

Edit: Quote/spelling. Thanks for the downvote!
This post was edited on 2/23/23 at 12:15 am
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 4:35 am to
Interesting perspective on issues faced by UAF forces due to inflexible commanders.

Twitter - @Tatarigami_UA
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:07 am to
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He was being sarcastic about the state of the Russian offensive.


My bad. Carry on.
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:22 am to


More Black Sea patrols coming
Posted by DabosDynasty
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:27 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:54 am to
Prigozhin put out a statement saying that he's starting to get new deliveries of ammo, and he thanked everyone who put pressure on the military brass to make that happen.

Now, there's a brand new video of him in the Bakhmut area, congratulating "all the Russian soldiers" (not only Wagner).

Twitter link
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:04 am to
From @DefenceFinland:

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Finland will deliver another package of defence materiel to Ukraine.

As part of international cooperation on Leopard armoured vehicles, Finland will hand over three Leopard 2 de-mining tanks to Ukraine, including training related to their use and maintenance.





If anyone has been paying careful attention the last couple of months, they would notice that recent donations to Ukraine have included lots of mine-clearing and bridge-laying equipment.

Last week, the Russians lost five vehicles in a neat little row in Vuhledar when they kept driving across and around a mined road. Ukraine is NOT going to do that in its spring offensive.

And all the bridge-laying equipment is not for streams -- it's for trenches.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:09 am to
ISW Update

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Russian President Vladimir Putin revived his imperialistic narrative that Russia is fighting for Russia's "historic frontiers" on February 22, a narrative that he had similarly voiced in his speech before the re-invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Putin gave a four-minute speech at the rally for the Defenders of the Fatherland Day in Moscow, stating that there is currently "a battle going on for [Russia's] historical frontiers, for [Russian] people."[1] Putin had similarly called territories adjacent to Russia "[Russian] historical land" when announcing Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022


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Putin's speech also followed his February 21 decree revoking his May 2012 edict on Russia's position on Moldovan territorial integrity.[3] Putin revoked his 2012 orders to the Russian Foreign Ministry (MFA) to firmly uphold the principles of the United Nations Charter—which require the development of friendly relations between states on the basis of equality, respect for their sovereignty and territorial integrity—and Russia's commitment to actively seek ways to resolve the Transnistria issue on the basis of respect for Moldovan territorial integrity. The revocation of the 2012 decree does not indicate that Putin intends to attack Moldova—an undertaking for which he lacks the military capability—although it does point toward an escalation in his ongoing efforts to undermine the Moldovan state.

The new decree also canceled the provision of "consistent implementation" of the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (START) with the United States. Putin stated that he signed the decree "in order to ensure the national interest of the Russian Federation in connection with the profound changes taking place in international relations."


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Ukrainian intelligence officials continue to assess that Russia lacks the combat power and resources needed to sustain its new offensive operations in Ukraine. Representative of the Ukrainian Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) Vadym Skibitsky told the AP that Russian forces intensified their offensive operations in at least four or five directions in Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhia oblasts at the beginning of February but have yet to achieve any significant successes despite continuing to exhaust their personnel and resources.[4] Skibitsky added that Russian forces are concentrating their efforts on capturing Kupyansk, Lyman, Bakhmut, Marinka, Avdiivka, and Vuhledar.

GUR Chief Kyrylo Budanov stated in an interview with Forbes that the Russian offensive is so ineffective as to be almost unnoticeable and noted that Russian forces have been rationing shells and ammunition to sustain assaults on the Bakhmut, Lyman, and Vuhledar directions while conserving shells in other areas.[5] Budanov's statement coincides with ISW's assessment that Russian forces are prioritizing the Bakhmut and Lyman directions and have yet to launch a significant push to advance in areas west of Donetsk City.[6] Budanov added that Russian artillery stocks decreased to 30 percent of the total number of shells. He claimed that Russia has imported a test batch of artillery shells from Iran and is currently attempting to procure another batch of 20,000 shells. Budanov previously estimated that Russian forces fired about 20,000 shells per day in late December 2022, down from 60,000 shells per day during the early stages of the war.[7] Budanov also observed that Russian tactics around Bakhmut and Vuhledar have largely shifted from artillery and mechanized attacks to infantry assaults due to the lack of shells and armored vehicles. Budanov noted that Russia had committed more than 90 percent of its 316,000 mobilized personnel to the frontlines, which further confirms Western and ISW's assessments that Russian forces do not have significant untapped combat-ready reserves.[8] Budanov noted that the Kremlin's stated objective of producing 800 tanks per year is unrealistic and stated that Russia can only produce 40 cruise missiles per month, which they use up in a single round of missile strikes. Russia has already lost at least 1,500 tanks and possibly as many as 2,000, as ISW has previously reported


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Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin directly accused the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) of mistreating Wagner forces, igniting intense backlash in the information space and supporting ISW's prior assessments of a growing Wagner-MoD fissure.[10] Prigozhin accused the MoD of lying about supplying all unconventional units with requested artillery ammunition, claiming instead that Wagner forces receive only 20 percent of the artillery ammunition promised to them.[11] Prigozhin claimed that the MoD's statement is "spitting at the Wagner private military company (PMC)" and an attempt to hide the MoD's "crimes against fighters" who achieve battlefield successes near Bakhmut.[12] Prigozhin published a dossier contrasting Wagner forces' artillery ammunition usage with what the MoD distributes to Wagner forces, an image showing Wagner fighters dead supposedly from the lack of artillery support during assaults, and an interview response claiming that the support of certain regional heads, including Crimean Occupation Governor Sergey Aksyonov, has helped raise awareness of Wagner forces' ammunition shortages.[13] Prigozhin called on the MoD to fulfill its promises rather than "deceiving" the Russian public.[14] Many prominent Russian milbloggers jumped to defend Prigozhin, spreading Prigozhin's claims and accusing the MoD of failing to support the supposedly most effective Russian forces in Ukraine.[15] One milblogger noted that the Russian MoD is now treating Wagner forces in the same way that the MoD treats its conventional forces in Ukraine, a clear step down from Prigozhin's prior posturing as the true victor near Bakhmut.[16] Prigozhin's complaints also confirm that his earlier boasts of Wagner's independence from the Russian MoD were lies.[17] Another Kremlin-affiliated milblogger criticized the rivalry between the Wagner Group and the MoD as counterproductive.


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US State Department Spokesperson Ned Price stated that the US government is concerned about the potential strengthening of Russia-China relations.[19] Price stated that the United States is concerned because "these two countries share a vision... in which big countries could bully small countries [and] borders could be redrawn by force."[20] Russian President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov met with Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Central Committee Central Foreign Affairs Commission Office Director Wang Yi in Moscow on February 22.[21] Kremlin newswire TASS reported that Yi said "no matter how the international situation changes, China remains committed to... maintaining positive trends in the development of its relations with Russia."


Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:10 am to
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Key Takeaways

Russian President Vladimir Putin revived his imperialistic narrative that Russia is fighting for Russia's "historic frontiers" on February 22, a narrative that he had similarly voiced in his speech before the re-invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022.

Putin's speech also followed his February 21 decree revoking his May 2012 edict on Russia's position toward Moldovan territorial integrity.

Ukrainian intelligence officials continue to assess that Russia lacks the combat power and resources necessary to sustain its new offensive operations in Ukraine.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin directly accused the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) of mistreating Wagner forces, igniting intense backlash in the information space and supporting ISW's prior assessments of a growing Wagner-MoD fissure.

US State Department Spokesperson Ned Price stated that the US government is concerned about the potential strengthening of Russia-China relations.

Russian forces are likely attempting to increase the tempo of their offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Lyman line.

Some Russian sources refuted other Russian claims about the intensification of offensive operations in western Luhansk Oblast.

Russian forces continued to conduct ground attacks throughout the Donetsk Oblast front line and secured marginal territorial gains around Bakhmut.

Russian and occupation authorities continue to publicly indicate that Russian forces are focusing on defensive operations in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast and Crimea.

US intelligence officials stated that Russian President Vladimir Putin may mobilize significantly more Russian personnel.
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