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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by BananaManCan
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:44 pm to
Is belarus retarded?
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:44 pm to
Aren’t they planning some sort of massive airborne operations? Seems crazy considering they reportedly don’t have control of the skies.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:44 pm to
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My theory was that one of the reasons Putin was taking it slow was that he could bait the West into doing something stupid that would allow him to justify a broader campaign.

I feel like the west is doing that.


So you prefer the Chamberlain approach?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:46 pm to
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So you prefer the Chamberlain approach?

Wilt or Neville?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:46 pm to
Is it weird I have more animosity for Belarus than Russia?

It's one thing to be the aggressor state trying to recapture old glory and hold off the growth and influence of an adversary

Being the pissant shithole bitch of that aggressor is arguably worse IMO
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:46 pm to
Both world wars happened with a dem in office. Just saying.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:47 pm to
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Enacting sanctions is textbook response for this scenario. Eta: he will claim it's escalatory and use it as an excuse for something bigger of course



Sometimes you have to act against what the textbook says to do.

I don’t know cutting off the banks and causing 1920s style bank runs that affect the everyday citizen of Russia who is going about their regular day. Devaluing their currency etc. it just seems like it’s a pretty big step of aggression

All this is being done by countries who weren’t directly attacked.

Can easily see where he takes this
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 8:48 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Is belarus retarded?


They're a thug puppet state of Russia, so yes.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:48 pm to
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My theory was that one of the reasons Putin was taking it slow was that he could bait the West into doing something stupid that would allow him to justify a broader campaign. I feel like the west is doing that.


The frick are they going to do?

Invade Ukraine? Oh wait already done it

They step a toe into Poland they get shredded.

The balkins probably is a red line at this point as well.

Even if he "takes over all of Ukraine"

He's done so while his entire economy is toasted and he'll get a nice fun guerilla war for his troubles.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:49 pm to
It’s not like Belarus has much of a choice. They essentially are Russia.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:49 pm to
Did I miss the outcome of the negotiations? You know, where the Ukrainians' security was to be guaranteed by the leader of the state waging war on them?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:49 pm to
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All this is being done by countries who weren’t directly attacked.


Putin basically threatened nuclear war on anyone that helped Ukraine. Not sure that's something to let slide.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
108 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Is it weird I have more animosity for Belarus than Russia?
I can’t imagine the Belarusian people are down for this. Weren’t they rioting or something a few months ago and Putin had to step in and help prop up the Belarusian president or am I remembering that wrong?
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:50 pm to
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The question is - do the Russian people view this as a result of their own leadership’s decisions, or as the West just piling onto Russia for trying to ensure its security?


A US correspondent in Moscow on CNN had some good insight the other night. Most common knowledge but she said it seems to be split around 50/50, the older generation is more pro Putin and buys in to Ukraine being a threat while the younger gen see’s past all the bullshite.
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:51 pm to
Kamil Galeeve Twitter thread

This guys twitter rant has been posted in this thread previously, but i find his views persuasive in that Putin has never actually gone full scale war. During his time as president, he’s engaged with Georgia, Syria, Chechens, etc – all small countries with little to no existential threat/risk. In a nutshell, Putin fricked up by letting Ukraine mobilize and improve their military after 2014, and as result has underestimated the Ukraine army
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103134 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:51 pm to
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Former Japanese PM Shinzo Abe states that Japan should consider hosting U.S. nuclear weapons. Russia has changed the military calculus around the world


Lol sneaky frickers. Nice try though

Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2234 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:51 pm to
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All this is being done by countries who weren’t directly attacked. Can easily see where he takes this


He's not going to take it to invading a nato country or firing nukes unless he has a death wish ( which he might)

You don't think the USAF couldn't shred these guys who are getting their tanks stolen by farmers?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:52 pm to
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It’s not like Belarus has much of a choice. They essentially are Russia.



Lukashenko was openly battling Putin like 18 months ago. Putin must have brought him to heel extremely hard, or this is at least partially voluntary servitude.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:53 pm to
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My theory was that one of the reasons Putin was taking it slow was that he could bait the West into doing something stupid that would allow him to justify a broader campaign. I feel like the west is doing that.


So what should have we done?
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
108 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 8:54 pm to
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You don't think the USAF couldn't shred these guys who are getting their tanks stolen by farmers?
As much as I don’t want us involved in this war, watching the Air Force lay waste to the Russian military in a matter of days would be fun to watch.
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