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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:15 pm to
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So expand on this.

Are the talking points I'm seeing from the Right designed as a domestic political stance just for the sake of owning the Left? For guys who "love Reagan", they sure are impressed with ol' Savvy Putin.

You're down with their praises?
My view is that it isn’t any of our business and I am consistently amazed at the memory loss of our citizens.

The US doesn’t go to war for “righteous” reasons anymore.

We are pushed into sacrificing lives and money to enrich the scumbags in our political class, that so many people seem to worship.

We just spent 20 years in a war and we received nothing for it.

This conflict is the same.

In the end it will be the exact same, a fricking waste.

Then everyone on here can forget about it after 6 months so we can go off and “fight for freedom” in another useless country.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:15 pm to
Ukraine is a known hotbed for Neo Nazis, screw them
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:19 pm to
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Ukraine is a known hotbed for Neo Nazis, screw them
The government installed by Obama and Biden are actually neo-Nazis.

Look into them.

They are fricking nuts.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
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My view is that it isn’t any of our business and I am consistently amazed at the memory loss of our citizens.


And that's cool.

So, why are so many going on and on about how brilliant he is? What does that have to do with minding our own business? That doesn't bother anyone?
Posted by Palmetto98
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Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:23 pm to
This is so convincing lmao
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
138897 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:23 pm to
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So, why are so many going on and on about how brilliant he is? What does that have to do with minding our own business? That doesn't bother anyone?

So you can't say someone pulled a smart move even though you don't agree with it?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87305 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:24 pm to
Must every thread about this become about Trump and arguments against thin air about putting troops in combat
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:24 pm to
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It’s not like Russia and China are small backwaters like Vietnam or Afghanistan. They would probably pose a serious threat to our way of life if they gain global hegemony. China is already doing it.


If we had any sense at all and/or weren’t bought and paid for by China we wouldn’t have continued to treat Russia so adversarial and played them off of China to keep them from getting so cozy and cozier by the minute. Had we done that and not gone back on our word with NATO expansion to their doorstep this likely wouldn’t be happening and we’d have less to worry about.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:25 pm to
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red sox fan 13

Nigeria invaded Niger earlier today and murdered over half a dozen children. Should we intervene? Why isn't this plastered on the nightly news? It's because war is a racket. And there's a whole lot more money to be made in Eastern Europe than Central Africa.
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Member since Aug 2021
825 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:25 pm to
It’s contextual - if your wife convinced you to go on a guys weekend in order to invite Jody over, would you praise her strategy?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:26 pm to
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China is already doing it. And also we have an all volunteer army with a ton of reservists. If your kid doesn’t want to fight and was forced into it we would have bigger problems

If that's the case, why don't we have 200,000 troops in Africa?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:27 pm to
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And there's a whole lot more money to be made in Eastern Europe than Central Africa.
and because Russia is a massive nuclear power who routinely thumbs its nose at the west and NATO and them doing shite like this truly matters on a global scale

Whereas Nigeria and Niger are just Nigeria and Niger

And Nigeria didnt invade Niger
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:29 pm to
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Nigeria invaded Niger earlier today and murdered over half a dozen children.
This did not happen. A Nigerian hey went into Nigérien airspace to conduct a strike what was more than likely a boko harem cell and screwed up or just didn’t give a frick about civilian casualties. Niger and Nigeria are not enemies.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:31 pm to
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It’s contextual - if your wife convinced you to go on a guys weekend in order to invite Jody over, would you praise her strategy?

That's not even a comparable analogy

Mike Leach can admire Lane Kiffin's play calling without being an Ole Miss fan or wanting them to win.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:33 pm to
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and because Russia is a massive nuclear power who routinely thumbs its nose at the west and NATO and them doing shite like this truly matters on a global scale

The reason Russia is doing this is because NATO is constantly trying to expand further and further east. You can't blame him for reacting like this.
Posted by LootieandtheBlowfish
Member since Aug 2021
825 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:33 pm to
No it’s not - it’s separating intentions from strategy. You just got back from a guys weekend didn’t you…. Sorry baw
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:34 pm to
I understand why Putin is doing what hes doing even if I dont support it. I can both be "I get it" while also thinking its bad

I was merely responding to why we may be paying more attention to this over a Nigerian invasion of Niger that didnt even happen
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77247 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:34 pm to
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Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.
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Post-Maidan Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces. The Azov Battalion was initially formed out of the neo-Nazi gang Patriot of Ukraine. Andriy Biletsky, the gang’s leader who became Azov’s commander, once wrote that Ukraine’s mission is to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade…against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” Biletsky is now a deputy in Ukraine’s parliament.
LINK

Just read this article.

The government installed by Obama and Biden is a fricking atrocity.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:35 pm to
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No it’s not - it’s separating intentions from strategy. You just got back from a guys weekend didn’t you…. Sorry baw

You're as bad at analogies as your wife is giving head. Trust me.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Im not. I understand why Putin is doing what hes doing even if I dont support it

I was merely responding as to why we may be paying more attention to this over a Nigerian invasion of Niger that didnt even happen


Ah, gotcha
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