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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:15 pm to
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you mean im not going to get a direct deposit of millions of seized assets from russian oligarchs? well shite


Don’t play dumb. You know what I meant. That $330 million is not going to end up in the FedGov treasury for use by said FedGov.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:17 pm to
and i never commented on the likelihood of that happening

i was merely saying in the hypothetical that the US did, id have no issue with it nor would i feel any sympathy for said russians
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:19 pm to
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and i never commented on the likelihood of that happening


Someone else did. I commented on it. You replied to my comment. I responded to you. Welcome to the internet.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:20 pm to
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You replied to my comment
to a specific portion of your comment. welcome to the internet
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:34 pm to
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It’s frozen. It will not be redirected. Using that money changes it from just “freezing assets” to outright theft by the USG from private citizens and corporations in another country.


I know money can be forfeited under international law and congress was working on a bill to make it quicker and easier under US law this summer. I had not researched it to see where they are at or what is required under international law. I was curious if someone had done the research or practices in the area and could give the Cliff notes.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:53 pm to
If you want a more detailed view of the Bakhmut situation, this twitter thread is good. The author, Robert Bor, is Dutch, so this is a translation.

LINK

Since that thread, though, I've seen a couple of tweets like this one:

quote:

Ukraine’s counter attacks in Bakhmut do not end with the asphalt plant. Wagner is getting its arse kicked.

LINK
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 3:58 pm to
Here’s a translation of much of that Telegram post from Grey Zone about a withdrawal from Kherson.

https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1583915862624735232

Wagner affiliated Telegram channel says Kherson is lost and that it will be worse than the retreat from Kharkiv as they Russians have no way to get out.

Grey Zone post:

There are only two questions, how to withdraw Russian soldiers from the front line to the left bank, and how to explain all this to the people later?

The situation is to some extent even worse than in comparison with the retreat from the Kharkov region after the breakthrough to Balakleya. In fact, the implementation of an organized withdrawal of the first line troops is virtually impossible. And I will be very glad to be mistaken, as in everything written below.

The first problem gives rise to the answer to the second question - how? What how? And how can we just take and leave the territory of Russia? And that is why, I grit my teeth strongly, I do not exclude that some troops will remain on the right bank, which will become modern “Panfilov’s”, and the battle will be presented almost like Stalingrad. You should also contact the Institute of Law and History.

First, it must be remembered that the mere possibility does not justify the irrefutability of the commission of an act - the motive is also inherently important. Secondly, it is worth remembering that history already painfully compares has a similar experience, so, for example, in 1941, when Soviet troops retreated to the left bank of the Dnieper from the Germans, the former blew up the Dnieper hydroelectric power station in order to prevent the advance of the latter. It is not possible to estimate the scale of the dead to this day, but not about that. The enemy has absolutely no motive to blow up the hydroelectric power station.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have in order to take Melitopol in the spring, the front of the battle for it is planned too be opened from the Zaporozhye region, and also, in fact, to attack from Kherson. So I subjectively believe that the enemy has no goals to destroy the already abandoned city, which we simply do not have the opportunity to defend, not so much due to the smallness of forces and means, but in broken logistics.

This, by the way, is about the fact that the enemy stubbornly hit the bridge for three months, while we rejoice at the arrivals of “Geraniums” that do not affect absolutely anything. To many, it will probably seem completely impossible and absolutely ridiculous, but nothing is impossible for me, just as it is ridiculous for the Russian guys at the front. I’ll be glad to be wrong.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:08 pm to
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while we rejoice at the arrivals of “Geraniums” that do not affect absolutely anything.


This is in reference to to the Iranian Shaheed drones, which have been renamed "Geran" drones by Russia.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:18 pm to
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This is in reference to to the Iranian Shaheed drones, which have been renamed "Geran" drones by Russia.


Thank you, I wasn’t sure what they were referencing.

Also had to look up Panfilov.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panfilov%27s_Twenty-Eight_Guardsmen

28 guardsmen heroically stop 54 german tanks from advancing to Moscow for three days, all die doing it.

Except it turns out it’s classic soviet lies, the germans were not delayed, they didn’t take lots of casulties, and at least 6 of the guardsmen survived, one ended up working for a german police force so arguably maybe a defector/traitor too.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:30 pm to
The poli board is having an amazing thread

LINK

quote:

THE front against neo-Bolshevism and the international high finance controlled global deep state is in Ukraine.

Putin called them out, they will not accept their children being indictrinated by the trans-homo-pedo mafia. This is the front.
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 4:46 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Secondly, it is worth remembering that history already painfully compares has a similar experience, so, for example, in 1941, when Soviet troops retreated to the left bank of the Dnieper from the Germans, the former blew up the Dnieper hydroelectric power station in order to prevent the advance of the latter. It is not possible to estimate the scale of the dead to this day, but not about that. The enemy has absolutely no motive to blow up the hydroelectric power station.


I wonder if in instead of a false flag, Russia has been talking about Ukraine blowing up the dam because of this
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:02 pm to
Yeah, if LGBT is the only issue that matters to the Politards, then it makes sense for them to support Russia, China, and Iran.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:03 pm to
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trans-homo-pedo mafia


I gotta see their meetings.

(no trans-homo-pedo)
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:09 pm to
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trans-homo-pedo mafia


NAZI-trans-homo-pedo mafia” if you please!
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:13 pm to
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neo-Bolshevism and the international high finance


“Neo-Bolshevism” AND “International High Finance”?


Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
Or they understand that the threat to liberty in this country is not coming from Russia, China or Iran, but Leftist Democrats.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:23 pm to
Loud part: “We invaded Ukraine to get rid of the Nazis.”

Quiet part: “…who are being run by the Bolsheviks and the international banking community
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 5:27 pm
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:31 pm to
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quote:Secondly, it is worth remembering that history already painfully compares has a similar experience, so, for example, in 1941, when Soviet troops retreated to the left bank of the Dnieper from the Germans, the former blew up the Dnieper hydroelectric power station in order to prevent the advance of the latter. It is not possible to estimate the scale of the dead to this day, but not about that. The enemy has absolutely no motive to blow up the hydroelectric power station.

I wonder if in instead of a false flag, Russia has been talking about Ukraine blowing up the dam because of this


Good point.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 5:35 pm to
Tactially, if Russia is forced across to the left bank of the river, they absolutely should blow the dam.
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