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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26942 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:03 am to
On the domestic front Putin is increasingly having trouble maintaining his triad of support for the war. Russian Milbloggers are about the only source people trust for updates and he's trying to keep them on his side. The problem with that is... they actively loathe the Ministry of Defense, which Putin needs to actually run the war. Add to that "outside" influence like the Chechens and Wagner Group who are pushing to replace Russian military commanders with their own people.

Domestically the situation appears to growing increasingly unstable for Putin. He doesn't have a clear off ramp in the conflict (it is easy to start war, it can be really hard to end one) and failure could mean he is "retired" by tying himself to a chair, taking poison, shooting himself in the head three times, and then leaping off a five story building. Twice.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42606 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:04 am to
Tell them boys to shut up. Their great grandfathers were lucky to get a rifle with a bullet to beat back the Germans. Tell them to suck it up, it’s not even cold yet.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:08 am to
quote:

BREAKING Putin decrees Russian administrative takeover of Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
quote:

#BREAKING UN nuclear agency chief says on way to Kyiv for talks on creating security zone around Zaporizhzhia plant


LINK

quote:

There is no diplomacy with russia, the day the IAEA visits Kyiv for talks about ZNPP, putlin announce they transfer the facility to russian federal ownership.


LINK
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13133 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:08 am to
quote:

If I am not mistaken, none of the Baltic States or Poland wanted Kaliningrad in their independence, due almost all Russians who were and are sympathetic with Russia.


When the Soviet Union fell apart Gorbachev offered to give Kaliningrad back to Germany. Largely because of the friction that it would cause between Germany and Poland. Margaret Thatcher was opposed to German reunification, the final deal was that Germany could unify but would have no claim on the territory ceded to Poland, or to Kaliningrad. Kaliningrad was set up by the Russians to be a model resort city but is one of the poorest places in Russia due to lack of trade or tourism. The Russians evicted the Germans and settled it with Russians, and rebuilt the city which was heavily damaged in WW2. With a population that is 90% Russian it's going to be hard to find any country that wants it, probably best as an independent state.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:52 am to
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What is Shawarma


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:56 am to
Chromedome, they sure have a convoluted way of saying things. It's like intentionally leaving an out to say that's not what I said regardless of claims against their statements.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:59 am to
Agreed, sometimes I have no idea what their point actually is.

I think the translation software must suck, it's just not good at translating street Russian.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:03 pm to
Rybar on recent polling on support for the war
https://twitter.com/rybar_en/status/1577704838489579522
quote:

?????????? All-Russian poll on citizens’ attitude to partial mobilization: general information

A week ago we conducted another sociological survey of the audience of patriotic Telegram channels, this time touching on the topic of attitudes towards partial mobilization.


Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:23 pm to
Can confirm, have confirmed, will continue to confirm. Meanwhile WG has all the money to pay their Mercs. Regular RU hates the WG and because VP and the military are hiding the true casualties surviving families don’t know they are already entitled to pensions…
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:26 pm to
From the Z telegram channel who earlier reported that Putin might give a speech changing the Special Military operation to something else.
https://t.me/c/1552544518/5971
quote:

??Vladimir Putin canceled the appeal to the nation to change the status of the special operation, so as not to sow panic. But details have come to light:

“In connection with the colossal losses at the front, the lack of people and the abandonment of many territories, it was decided to use the potential of the latest high-precision weapons. If at least one rocket falls on the territory of Russia in the next day, incl. to the annexed territories, the reaction will follow immediately. The West will be responsible for this together with Ukraine. In this regard, they will be declared a large-scale… read more»

Right now, eyewitnesses are noticing the movement of Topol-M near the Russian-Ukrainian border, and satellites can be seen bringing the Sarmat missile system to full combat readiness (see photo and video)

It looks like a great battle is coming. Our influential friends from the Security Council channel have verified information.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1134 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:42 pm to
Yeah that ain't gonna fly Putin.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:46 pm to
The NYT is reporting that the US government believes elements within the Ukrainian government authorized the attack that killed Daria Dugina.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476560 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:53 pm to
Can't wait for Americans who totally don't support Putin to start blaming Ukraine for "invading Russia"
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Rybar on recent polling on support for the war
LINK


You'll note that the poll was done of subscribers to the patriotic telegram channels. Not shocking they'd be positive towards the mobilization. What's surprising is the # who aren't.

I'd be curious to see a poll down of everyone, not just those who are waving the flag.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:51 pm to
The NYT reports that it the US believes it was the Ukrainians who were behind assassination of Daria Dugina, daughter of Alexander Dugin. LINK

That is some impressive capability on the part of the Ukrainians, if this report is accurate.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:59 pm to
Yeah really “impressive.” A cold blooded assassination of a civilian non-combatant because of the contents of her father’s academic work. That’s not “impressive,” that’s murder. That’s terrorism. That’s a war crime. But it’s also par for the course for the criminal Kiev regime.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17711 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Yeah really “impressive.” A cold blooded assassination of a civilian non-combatant because of the contents of her father’s academic work. That’s not “impressive,” that’s murder. That’s terrorism. That’s a war crime. But it’s also par for the course for the criminal Kiev regime.


Sucks when your opponent uses the same tactics as you.

I really wish Chicken would kick these Russian users off of TD
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21123 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:07 pm to
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Yeah really “impressive.” A cold blooded assassination of a civilian non-combatant because of the contents of her father’s academic work. That’s not “impressive,” that’s murder. That’s terrorism. That’s a war crime. But it’s also par for the course for the criminal Kiev regime.

You reap what you sow... the OG frick around and find out
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:09 pm to
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Yeah really “impressive.” A cold blooded assassination of a civilian non-combatant because of the contents of her father’s academic work. That’s not “impressive,” that’s murder. That’s terrorism. That’s a war crime. But it’s also par for the course for the criminal Kiev regime.




He handwrings about Ukrainian "war crimes" while sparing no breath to speak about the country that unilaterally and illegally invaded said sovereign country, executing it's citizenry in cold blood, and has been attempting to seize it's territory in violation of international law. Cheered on and propagandized on behalf of said regime by said daughter and her father.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Yeah really “impressive.” A cold blooded assassination of a civilian non-combatant because of the contents of her father’s academic work. That’s not “impressive,” that’s murder. That’s terrorism. That’s a war crime. But it’s also par for the course for the criminal Kiev regime.




Maybe you can send her dad a Hallmark sympathy card.
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