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Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:53 am to DabosDynasty
I read that there are about 2k troops in Lyman, so what is that 2-3 BTG?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:56 am to AU86
Lots of important people have fallen from windows lately. If someone thinks they may be headed for a fall, or if they think Putin may get them all killed by using nukes- someone may go kingslayer on him.
also- the pipeline was obviously destroyed by the russian dolphins
also- the pipeline was obviously destroyed by the russian dolphins
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:02 am to CitizenK
He was ousted by a stroke tho.
Article 5 invoked - requires dolphin-vs.-dolphin response.
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also- the pipeline was obviously destroyed by the russian dolphins
Article 5 invoked - requires dolphin-vs.-dolphin response.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 9:09 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:04 am to Athanatos
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I read that there are about 2k troops in Lyman, so what is that 2-3 BTG?
That would have been about three BTGs at full strength before the war, but I don't know if "BTG" means anything anymore.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:39 am to CitizenK
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Even Stalin was ousted.
How was Stalin ousted? He died while still in power.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:56 am to AU86
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:01 am to AU86
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I believe there is 0% chance of a coup occurring. Everyone there was placed there by Putin. 100%. They are probably preparing for the day that Putin is gone but they are not taking any actions to facilitate it. Putin's fate is their fate. When Putin goes, they go.
Which is the perfect reason for someone to try and make a break from Putin and his cronies. Especially if that person is a general who has troops at his command. That person might end up dead as a result, but Putin's time is limited and they will definitely end up dead at time.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:06 am to WeeWee
Wouldn’t the obvious replacement for Putin end up being Medvedev?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:24 am to LSUPilot07
Yes and the narrative softening after a suitable mourning period would work as well, Medvedev is only recently a hawk/hardliner…he would need backing from the right people but it would work.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:55 am to LSUCanFAN
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"A lot of people are just leaving everything behind. There are places that are completely deserted," said Boyko. "Everybody wants to be in Ukraine, and this is why everybody is leaving. Over there is a lawless place. Entire villages are leaving."
He, his wife and their two children had arrived at the aid centre in the parking lot of a home improvement store in Ukrainian-held Zaporizhzhia city, after waiting for two days before Russian forces abruptly let them out.
Just more suffering by the civilian populations that the Russians were supposed to be liberating. It's a shame because these people have suffered enough for several lifetimes. Even after the war is done it will take decades to rebuild their lives, and all because Putin wanted to become known as Vlad the Great before he succumbs to his cancer?
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:59 am to GOP_Tiger
British Professor of Defense Studies Michael Clarke:
LINK
I think that he's right.
Seeing tweets like this one now:
LINK
That would mean that the cauldron has almost completely closed.
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Professor Michael Clark on Sky News just now said its already too late for the Russians in Lyman to get their equipment out and if they dont escape soon it will be too late for them to get any men out.
LINK
I think that he's right.
Seeing tweets like this one now:
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Heavy fighting ongoing on Tors'ke right now. AFU pushing to enter the city. Also activity around Zarichne.
Pray for our heroes! This is a crucial battle.
LINK
That would mean that the cauldron has almost completely closed.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 11:02 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:20 am to AU86
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How was Stalin ousted? He died while still in power.
Rumors that he was poisoned, but even if it was natural causes his entourage let him languish for many hours without calling for medical attention. Whether by comission or omission, everybody wanted him gone.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:24 am to Jim Rockford
Then Berra assumed room temperature
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:47 am to LSUCanFAN
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Yes and the narrative softening after a suitable mourning period would work as well, Medvedev is only recently a hawk/hardliner…he would need backing from the right people but it would work.
From the people that I know in RussIa granted they are far from hardliners, but they say that the Russian people are turning on Putin and everyone associated with him. Medvedev has never been seen as anything, but Putin’s puppet and they don’t respect or support him at all. If this war brings down Putin or Putin is “convinced to step aside” then the Russian people won’t support Medvedev or any of Putin’s ppl. The only way that Medvedev or any of Putin’s ppl succeed Putin is if Putin’s health legitimately fails and he suddenly dies ir is incapacitated from real cancer complications (i.e. pneumonia and not the 9mm Makariv kind of complications).
Posted on 9/28/22 at 11:54 am to WeeWee
I think we can pretty much drop any pretence that this invasion was anything other than a land/resource grab, ethnic Russians have also been tortured, shot to death in occupied territories. The kettling that is occurring around lymon right now is going to get ugly, the occupied conscripted guys are going to receive pretty harsh retribution by all accounts.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:17 pm to LSUCanFAN
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The kettling that is occurring around lymon right now is going to get ugly, the occupied conscripted guys are going to receive pretty harsh retribution by all accounts.
(Pol) Pot meet kettle
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:21 pm to LSUCanFAN
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I think we can pretty much drop any pretence that this invasion was anything other than a land/resource grab, ethnic Russians have also been tortured, shot to death in occupied territories. The kettling that is occurring around lymon right now is going to get ugly, the occupied conscripted guys are going to receive pretty harsh retribution by all accounts.
Actually I think it started out as a regimen change operation. Putin was wanting to put his friend Viktor Medvedchuk in power in Kyiv or restore Victor Yanakovich to power. That would have allowed Russia grab Ukraine's land and resources too, and it is possible that a Medvedchuk or Yanakovich led government would have rigged a referendum to bring Ukraine into the Grand Union. So yeah I guess it was just a different sort of land grab at that point.
Anyone still saying that eastern Ukraine is made up of ethnic Russians or Russian speaking Ukrainians who want to be Russians is full of shite. This war has shown that Russian speaking Ukrainians or ethnic Russians in Ukraine are actually Ukrainians who happen to speak Russian as their primary language. They obviously do not want to be Russian citizens and from the way the Russians have treated them the Russians do not actually want them to be Russian citizens either.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:32 pm to WeeWee
Prof Michael Clarke: "The war has come to the Baltic." LINK
TL:DW, Putin blew up the Nord Stream both as a statement to Europe that it won't be getting any more gas and as an implied threat to the other undersea infrastructure in the Baltic. He expects NATO naval activity to ratchet up in the Baltic
TL:DW, Putin blew up the Nord Stream both as a statement to Europe that it won't be getting any more gas and as an implied threat to the other undersea infrastructure in the Baltic. He expects NATO naval activity to ratchet up in the Baltic
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