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Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:36 am to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:36 am to
Does anyone else wish they could be a fly on the wall (with a Star Trek universal translator) at Putin's morning briefing?



Saw this picture on a Ukraine War search of Twitter. Does it remind anyone of something from the 5th season of The Wire?

Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 5:05 am to
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British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 10 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Ukrainian forces launched offensive operations in the south of Kharkiv Oblast on 06 September 2022. Lead elements have advanced up to 50km into previously Russian held territory on a narrow front.

Russian forces were likely taken by surprise. The sector was only lightly held and Ukrainian units have captured or surrounded several towns. A Russian force around Izium is likely increasingly isolated. Ukrainian units are now threatening the town of Kupiansk; its capture would be a significant blow to Russia because it sits on supply routes to the Donbas front line.

With Ukrainian operations also continuing in Kherson, the Russian defensive front is under pressure on both its northern and southern flanks.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 5:16 am to
Kupiansk, Kharkiv region! Ukrainian soldiers with a battle flag of the 1st Mechanized Battalion of the 92nd Brigade on the main square. The city has been under Russian occupation since February 27. Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine!






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This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 5:17 am
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 5:35 am to
Armed Forces of Ukraine liberate Kupiansk – regional council
Saturday, 10 September 2022, 10:55

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have liberated Kupiansk of Kharkiv Oblast from Russian occupiers. Nataliia Popova, adviser to the Head of the Regional Council, reported that on the morning of 10 September.

Source: Popova on Telegram; source of Ukrainska Pravda in Kharkiv military-civilian administration

Quote from Popova: "Kupiansk is Ukraine! Glory to the Armed Forces of Ukraine!".

Details: Members of Ukrainian Parliament, bloggers and soldiers also reported that the city has been liberated.

There is no official confirmation for the time being.

Kharkiv Oblast Military Administration confirmed to Ukrainska Pravda that Kupiansk is free.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Athanatos
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 5:59 am to
Seeing on Twitter that the front line is completely collapsing and Kupyansk and Izyum are under UA control, with RF troops fleeing east and leaving behind heavy weapons.

At what point does the advance stop to regroup and firm up the advance.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 6:43 am to
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Seeing on Twitter that the front line is completely collapsing and Kupyansk and Izyum are under UA control, with RF troops fleeing east and leaving behind heavy weapons.

At what point does the advance stop to regroup and firm up the advance.


This reminds me of Desert Storm. We just barreled through the Iraqui's much faster than anyone expected. The only time almost every unit wasn't ahead of schedule was the moment we crossed the berm. Just like the Ukes we were always in danger of outkicking our coverage to use an overused sports metaphor. But I don't see this becoming another Highway 80 situation because the Ukes don't have the USAF ripping and running dealing wholesale slaughter. There will be a time when the Russians stop, turn around and defend in the areas they are on the run now. The issue for them is they are not going to be defending positions they had months to build.

The question is who long can the Ukes keep up the high Op tempo and keep the Russians off balance and how large a front can they do this across. We have to keep in mind the parts of the front they are attacking are relatively small but they are having good success. How will this translate over a larger area over time is anyone's guess without a lot more accurate battlefield intel. No matter how broken the Russians are right now the Ukes will have to take a breathe at some point and they have a shitload more front to break through the defenses but now they have the advantage of doing it from the rear as well as taking lots of the interior land back.

The other thing to keep in mind all that Russian territory on the map is basically devoid of troops. If you had an actual map of where all the Russian troops are it would look like a line drawing of a leaf. The GLOCs would be like the veins running out to the edge and the troops on the front lines would be like the outline of the leaf. The few soldiers in the middle part of the leaf not part of the GLOCs would mainly be the artillery units running from spot to spot playing their battery v counterbattery games all day. I say this to point out huge parts of the map can turn from red to yellow but really only a result of small areas of actual control just like when it turned red during the invasion.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:07 am to
Obtuse, thank you for you quality contributions to this thread. Solid poster.
Posted by TacoNash
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:41 am to
Kremlin media confirming Russian troops left izyum

https://twitter.com/gazetaru/status/1568566213747384320?s=46&t=zp3szyhpEJCYnkstNTveWQ

Translation

Russian troops left the city of Izyum in the Kharkov region - Daniila Bezsonov
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:47 am to
The Russian ministry of Defense has yet to make reference to the happenings in their daily updates. Talk about head in sand mode…
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:49 am to
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Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:50 am to
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quote:
We don't have to sit back and allow Russia to conquer whomever they please Neville


Yeah, and where does that lead?





Just catching up on message board shite I haven't had the time to participate in because of work.

This, to me, deserves a response.

First off: You obviously missed the purpose of me calling you Neville. Otherwise, you wouldn't have given the completely History-retarded response you gave.

We know where allowing them to conquer whomever they please leads.

Hence: Neville.

They only want Poland, their "ancestral lands".

It's a line we've heard before.

It's telling that you take the side of giving into their demands.

WW3 won't start by helping Ukraine to stop the Russian aggression. It will start by conceding Ukraine to Russia, and then conceding Georgia to Russia, and then finally trying to say "enough is wnough" when they go after a NATO country like Estonia or Lituania. You know, one of their old Satellites that they will claim is "Ancestral" Territory.

Try studying history. Not just reading about it, but studying it.
Posted by Athanatos
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:50 am to
That’s got to inspire a lot of confidence in the field. Imagine the calls home.

“Mom, we have not had orders in 48 hours and are completely surrounded.”

“Son, trust in the system. The ministry hasn’t said anything, so it must be ok”
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:55 am to
https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1568581530473140225
quote:

???????#Kharkiv Offensive Sep 10 13:00:
- UA forces liberated western part of Kupyansk (92MB, SBU Alpha)
- UA troops reached northern outskirts of Izium (25AB, HUR). RU forces are retreating across the Oskil river, abandoning their positions and equipment.

This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:56 am to
https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1568578726513852417
quote:

FLASH TRAFFIC / KHARKIV / 1300 UTC 10 SEP/ History will record the UKR Kharkiv operation as one of the most daring and successful counter-offensives of the 21st century. UKR has seized the important transportation hub of Kupiansk, with RU forces retreating in disarray.


Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:57 am to
Rybar

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1568579775966466049
quote:

Russian military reporter group Rybar in tears, begging the Russian Ministry of Attack to start telling truth.

Could you imagine this level of panic just a few months ago?

This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 7:58 am
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:59 am to
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Russia is what it’s always been a joke country run by imbeciles.



It's a country whose founders literally couldn't protect themselves from invaders, and couldn't form a cohesive body to protect themselves, so they went to Sweden to hire a Viking to come be their King for them, so they could be safe.

He accepted, came over, and decided that his capitol would be Kiev.

Russian history began in Ukraine, not Russia.

And they also practiced Serfdom until the mid 1800's, until they somewhat abolished it. They didn't fully abolish it until the late 1800's-early 1900's.

Think about that: a political system from the middle ages, that was abandoned by the rest of the world during the Renaissance, was still the operating system of Russia during the Industrial Revolution.

We're talking about a country that has never has a single successful colony overseas. Has never had a footprint outside of their own landmass. A country whose entire history can be summed up in one sentence: And then things got worse.



Yet everyone in the world acts like they are something to be feared. The only country more hyped up than Russia, and is probably more of a "paper-tiger" than Russia, is China.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 8:00 am to
Commentary on Izium from Rybar

https://t.me/rybar/38567
quote:

?????????? The situation in the Slavic-Barvenkovsky direction
as of 16.00 September 10, 2022

By the current hour, the first videos have appeared with units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the entrance to Izyum. On one of the videos they say that some kind of equipment has remained in the city. There are no more details about any battles or positions of the RF Armed Forces.

Numerous testimonies of military correspondents and local residents testify that the RF Armed Forces retreated beyond the village of Oskol to the other side of the Oskol River. The abandonment of Izyum suggests that the entire front in the area of ??Kamyshevakhi, Brazhkovka, Dolgenkiy or Bogorodichny can be abandoned. Otherwise, the troops may be surrounded.

There are battles near Liman: artillery of the RF Armed Forces is working on suitable reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and Russian troops are repelling the offensive of groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that crossed to the northern coast at the turn of Stary Karavan - Brusovka - Dibrova. Army units remain in the city.

Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 8:03 am to
The occupiers said they left Izyum and other settlements, the defenders showed the video: We are in Izyum
IRYNA BALACHUK - SATURDAY, 10 SEPTEMBER 2022, 15:16

Russian troops left the city of Izyum and some other settlements in the Kharkiv region.

Source: the so-called "First Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR" Danylo Bezsonov on Telegram, RBC, 25th Separate Airborne Sicheslav Brigade on Facebook

Bezsonov's quote: "Yes, they left Izyum, as well as from some other settlements of the Kharkiv direction. Of course, this is bad. Of course, this is the result of high command errors. But do not look for hidden meanings in this. It's not about contracts or treason. Just, we fight as best we can. At all levels. Somewhere better, somewhere worse.

The main thing is to admit mistakes and draw the right conclusions."

Details: RBC writes that the departure from Izyum was also confirmed by war correspondents Oleksandr Kots and Yevhen Piddubnyi. The latter called such a decision of the command correct "under the circumstances", in his words, "the encirclement of the Russian group in Izyum would be a disaster."

Kots added that the occupiers also left Balaklia and Kupyansk.

UKRAYINSKA PRAVDA
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 8:05 am to
Very unconfirmed but this guy has been pretty spot on throughout the war.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1568582546396528641
quote:

There is reports Russian units are withdrawing from Vovchansk
(Unconfirmed)


Vovchansk is north of the current offensive area, it is right on the Ukraine/Russian border and the entry point into Ukraine from Belgorod Russia. It is a MAJOR logistics channel.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 8:10 am to
From Wagner's Grey Zone
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1568524159675781120
quote:

In an honest post, Wagner's GREY ZONE admits neither lend-lease nor "foreign mercenaries" would have played a significant role in the current Ukrainian counter-offensive.

Says it's all a major Russia's frickup of the past 30 years.



The Russians appear to be using HIMARS math in their counting of downed Ukrainian SU25s. Russia has destroyed 101 of Ukraine's 45 SU25s.
This post was edited on 9/10/22 at 8:14 am
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