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Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by PassingThrough
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:45 pm to
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He warned Western Europe about Russian intentions, and about Russia using natural gas as leverage against W. E.



You mean Trump understands the political climate in the region better than the entirety of the Biden administration and the EU?


I am sorry, but everyone knew this. It really isn't a big leap of logic if you have even basic ability to read the news of the world.
Posted by facher08
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:15 pm to
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ISW Update


Thank Christ!
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 4:58 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 21 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russian and separatist forces continue to attempt small scale assaults along the Donbas front line. Russian forces are likely closing in on Ukraine's second biggest power plant at Vuhlehirska, 50km north-east of Donetsk.

Russia is prioritising the capture of critical national infrastructure, such as power plants. However, it is probably also attempting to break through at Vuhlehirska, as part of its efforts to regain momentum on the southern pincer of its advance towards the key cities of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:13 am to
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Russian occupation authorities are likely propagandizing recent Ukrainian high-precision strikes and partisan activity to set conditions for mass deportations of Ukrainian citizens to Russian territory.

Every move by Putin has escalating consequences. That's the response from the West because that’s the only thing psychopaths understand. The cruise missiles that were aimed at the city centers of Vinnytsia and Dnipro resulted in escalating the decision to send the 300km range HIMARS 610mm Army Tactical Missiles to the Ukrainians. Which put all of Crimea into range.

Don’t get me wrong, Putin doesn’t regret his targeting of civilians, psychopaths cannot regret. He will only look for alternate valuable targets that he believes the West cannot protect. Thus, knowing Putin’s state of mind, the idea of mass kidnapping fits.

But any attempt at the wholesale kidnapping of Ukrainians to Russia will result in a few more steps up the weaponry escalation ladder, with clear justification for Western leaders. Ask the Serbs. You could look at it as an easy opportunity to send in weapons that have been so far held back. I don't know what systems will be involved at that point, but the Western inventory has many options. I would think targeting all road and rail links out of Kherson would put a stop to it. But that can be done with the 300km HIMARS. So something worse for the psychopath will have to be sent in. That Kerch Bridge would be on borrowed time and vessels of the Russian fleet could be targeted as well, keeping them bottled up in Russian ports.

We know this – that Putin always escalates levels of force against those that can’t or won’t defend themselves. Mafia psychopath 101. The idea is to show him and the world that the consequences will always follow his actions and will always be worse than his actions. Always. He is beginning to understand this. He can’t change the way his mind works but he is running out of soft targets that are worth the consequences.

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5759 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 5:15 am to
AFU destroy 6 warehouses and enemy command post using missiles – South Operational Command
21 July 2022, Thursday, 12:26

Missile and artillery units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine performed more than two hundred fire missions during the day, as a result of which the occupiers lost 111 soldiers and officers.

This was announced on Facebook by the South Operational Command.

The MSTA-B howitzer, two Nona-Z self-propelled artillery units and mortar installations, the Eleron unmanned aerial vehicle, as well as 13 vehicles were also destroyed.

Intelligence confirmed the defeat of the command and command-observation post, as well as six warehouses with ammunition in Kherson, Beryslav, and Kakhovka districts.

Ukrainian News Agency
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:01 am to
I’m hearing if one Ukrainian grain ship is struck the bridge is gone. ETA and critical infrastructure in Crimea is gone too.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 6:02 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:29 am to
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I’m hearing if one Ukrainian grain ship is struck the bridge is gone.

That may be the best use for that bridge - leverage. But at some point it will have to go. The Ukrainians will need all the Russian POW's they can get to trade for kidnapped Ukrainian civilians.
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 6:45 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 6:44 am to
Ukrainian mines have to be removed from guarding the port. Crimea was denied that water for years before this year.

This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 6:48 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5759 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:36 am to
Russian forces move equipment, explosives to engine room at Zaporizhia NPP

Russian invaders have moved military equipment, explosives and weapons to the engine room of power unit No. 1 at the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant.

Ukraine's National Nuclear Energy Generating Company Energoatom said this in a Telegram post, Ukrinform reports.

"The Russian military brought at least 14 pieces of heavy military equipment with ammunition, weapons and explosives to the engine room of power unit No. 1 at the Zaporizhia NPP. The entire arsenal of heavy equipment with all ammunition is currently located very close to the equipment that ensures the operation of the turbo generator. In particular, in the immediate vicinity of the main oil tank, which contains flammable oil that cools the steam turbine. There is also explosive hydrogen, which is used to cool the generator," the post says.

It also added that the military equipment of the invaders made it impossible for fire engines and other vehicles to access the control room of power unit No. 1. Therefore, the risk of fire increases many times, and its extinguishing becomes extremely problematic.

"If a fire breaks out, for example, due to the accidental detonation of ammunition, its scale may be equal to the fire that occurred during the accident at the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant," Energoatom said.

UKRINFORM
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 7:37 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 7:58 am to
So Russia is scared and playing the game well they won't blow up the nuclear power plant
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:00 am to
This thread is still happening?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4672 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:00 am to
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Russian forces move equipment, explosives to engine room at Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant.
Just when you start to worry about the global media putting this war in the back pages, Putin saves the day. This will go over really well with the EU negotiating tree-huggers as well. At some point the penny will drop with these birds.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 8:58 am to
So in the steam turbine generator room. Old school generators by Westinghouse and likely Soviet are hyrogen cooled. The oil would be lube oil rather than for cooling.

Different than the reactor room but next door.

Does this mean that the weapons and ammo are afraid to come out and play? This pretty much makes them unusable.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:11 am to
Russia Resumes Gas Flows to Europe

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There had been concerns across the region that there could be a complete shutdown of gas supplies via the pipeline after it was closed earlier this month for maintenance. Flows had been due to be restart Thursday after the completion of the works.


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Data on operator Nord Stream’s website showed that flows increased from zero to 29,284,591 kWh/h for 0600-0700 Central European Time Thursday. On July 10, the last day of operations before the maintenance work began, flows were at roughly the same level, just above the 29,000,000 kWh/h.

Flows are running at reduced volumes, however, and have been since Russia’s onslaught in Ukraine with Moscow squeezing supplies to the European region. But it’s still likely to be a welcome relief to European officials who have been scrambling to find alternative suppliers to Russian gas.


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Despite news that flows have restarted, the EU will continue to push ahead with contingency plans in case of a full shutdown in gas supplies from Russia. The commission has told the 27 EU nations that they need to cut their gas consumption by 15% until March, in an effort to save energy.

Von der Leyen has said that it is likely that the Kremlin will go ahead with a complete cut-off of gas supplies to Europe. “As if Nord Stream 1 going back to 30% today can be read in any way in terms of Putin’s intention in terms of assuring European gas supply,” Timothy Ash, economist at BlueBay Asset Management, said in a note Thursday.

“What we know is that Putin has no intention of helping Europe get through the winter in terms of gas supply without difficulty. He wants a gas and energy crisis in Europe this winter as this gives him leverage,” he added.

This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 9:13 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:47 am to
Zelensky would be smart to really publicize this as an “escalation”.

I am also wondering what the purpose is, besides keeping things out of harms way.

Did the Russians actually do anything regarding the plant after capturing Chernobyl for a while?

At a minimum it creates confusion.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17733 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:49 am to
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???????? Assessment by the Polish intelligence services of the situation in Ukraine The Intelligence Agency (AW) of the Republic of Poland has prepared a report analyzing the current situation in Ukraine. According to the document, a catastrophic situation has developed in the formations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The number of irretrievable losses is more than 300 people per day, and this figure is underestimated by the office of the President to reduce the likelihood of a public outburst and create panic among civilians and the military. The Psheks emphasize that the systematic strikes of the Russian Armed Forces on command posts and training centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have led to the death of about 4,600 of the most trained military personnel over the past three months, including senior officers, instructors and mercenaries. The report notes that unprepared formations are sent to the Donbass, the professional level of officers from the battalion commander and below is weak, the functions of commanders in the troops are often performed by fighters of the national battalions. Since May of this year, almost all control functions in the planning and conduct of hostilities have been taken over by foreign advisers from the United States, Great Britain and Canada. At the same time, the fact of their presence at command posts is kept secret in order to prevent the entry of NATO military personnel into the captivity of the Russian Armed Forces. It is emphasized that Zelensky's office has set the task of keeping the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Toretsk line at any cost until the end of August this year. It is indicated that at present, accelerated training of Ukrainian military personnel is being carried out in the west of the republic and on the territory of Great Britain and Germany. By the end of August - beginning of September, it is planned to create an additional grouping of 30 thousand people, the basis of which will be four new brigades. It is noteworthy that the Polish special services are skeptical about Kyiv's statements about the preparation of these four formations in Ukraine. Warsaw does not rule out that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is misleading the allies in order to obtain new weapons. According to AW, the leadership of Ukraine also counts on the introduction of two Polish brigades into the western regions of the country - 6 air brigade and 25 air brigade, which, according to the Ukrainian General Staff, will release additional combat-ready units and formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in August to be sent to the eastern front. At the same time, the report notes that the American 155-mm M-777 howitzers delivered to Kyiv are not always used for their intended purpose. Instead of conducting counter-battery combat, guns are often used to bombard cities. At the same time, military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after accelerated training, are unable to independently maintain complex weapons and military equipment systems, therefore foreign instructors from among mercenaries are often in artillery positions.


Obvious Russian propaganda right? They’re claiming this came from Poland, even though the only media outlets I’ve seen reporting this are inside of Russia.

Don’t let them tell you that they’re not rooting for Putin, or that they aren’t spewing Russian propaganda, because they are doing all of that. Bunch of anti American scum over there on the poli board. Bunch of traitors.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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This thread is still happening?



Yeah, the Ukraine globohomo plebs are coping by posting sources from Ukraine websites. I'm sure it's all honest reporting and absolutely zero propaganda.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13171 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:00 am to
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Gcockboi


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globohomo


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Make Cocks go hard again


Checks out.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16199 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:05 am to
Russia needs the cash flow badly. It is not making huge profits on oil like idiot pundits seem to think. LNG exports are limited and not that much pipeline capacity outside of the European market.

Any shutting in of wells will sand them up and need to be reworked to flow at any appreciable quantity again.

Russia does have storage capacity or around 90 billion cubic meters but likely close to full already
This post was edited on 7/21/22 at 10:20 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12673 posts
Posted on 7/21/22 at 10:06 am to
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Obvious Russian propaganda right? They’re claiming this came from Poland, even though the only media outlets I’ve seen reporting this are inside of Russia.


Sounds like propaganda, if this is just a random “report” out of nowhere without periodic reports coming from Poland previously.

But it would be useful to confirm.
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