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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:55 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:55 pm to crazy4lsu
This embargo of oil and rubber did not include Dutch East Indies where Japan received most of its crude oil from. In fact, much of that crude oil was close to the specification for ship's fuel so could burned as is to fuel boilers without any refining at all. Aviation fuel was a different story.
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:56 pm to AU86
NATO recently included China as a threat
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:04 pm to kingbob
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It's time to be the adults and let the children deal with the consequences of their actions. It's time for Europe to learn how to do its own dishes and laundry again.
If we really wanted to help Europe, we would be working on opening up LNG facilities so we can ship them natural gas and bipass Russia's pipelines. We would be opening more oil exploration here so that Europe is no longer dependent upon Russian oil. We would be developing infrastructure for fertilizer and converting ethanol corn fields to producing wheat and food corn to ease the food shortage.
The issue is Europe wants to treat Russia as an antagonist while also being utterly reliant on Russia for fuel, and the Ukraine for food and fertilizer. The solution to the conflict goes beyond militarily stopping Russian expansionism in the region, but in making Europe no longer reliant upon Russian and Ukrainian imports.
Yes you are almost 100% correct. It's the part about leaving it up to the Europeans that is not. Remember the video where Trump admonishes the Germans and they laughed? That's what Europe was up against with those heads in the sand and I'll say it again, German pipe dream for climate change ending renewable power. They preached being green while burning the shite out of Russian fossil fuels. It is frustrating. But you know all this.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:08 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:13 pm to OMLandshark
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Dumb shite like this tends to happen when you let outraged Swedish teenagers run your energy policies.
Response is reasonable. You get down voted for being you.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:30 pm to OMLandshark
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Dumb shite like this tends to happen when you let outraged Swedish teenagers run your energy policies.
What? German energy policy has its origins in the 1980s, with one of the main drivers being Green Party member Juergen Trittin, who was the Environment Minister under Gerhard Schroder.
Legislative support only coalesced in 2010, with the original policy had suggested use of petroleum and nuclear energy as bridges while other sources of energy developed. The policy document published on September 28 2010 from two German federal ministries make the original policy explicit. The policy of keeping nuclear as a bridge was only dropped after Fukushima in 2011, though I've seen some suggestions that the German government might reconsider due to this war but I think their broad plan of focusing on renewable energy production remains unchanged.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:32 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Another one bites the dust…
MSN
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A multi-millionaire Russian businessman has been found shot dead at his mansion.
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He is the sixth wealthy businessman with links to the Russian state-owned gas company Gazprom to have been found dead in unnatural circumstances since the start of the year.
Yuri Voronov, 61, was head of a logistics company that held lucrative contracts with Gazprom in the Arctic.
His body was discovered floating in the swimming pool of his mansion in an elite village close to St Petersburg on Monday.
He had suffered a gunshot wound to the head.
MSN
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:35 pm to crazy4lsu
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This post was edited on 6/16/26 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:38 pm to LeClerc
I spent some time living in Germany and evaluating the chances of Germany's Govt to decide to become more self-reliant on defense. The folks in charge of running Germany will never do that.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:40 pm to crazy4lsu
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What? German energy policy has its origins in the 1980s, with one of the main drivers being Green Party member Juergen Trittin, who was the Environment Minister under Gerhard Schroder.
He is simply stating that little Greta and her mindset and legions of followers are part of the reason Europe is where it is. Come on, the media pumped her up as a climate goddess. I get his point. He wasn't reciting a historical fact. Sort of a sloppy metaphor. Greta stands for the crazy policies Europe has been doing since as you say, the 1980s.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Anti-nuclear policy in Germany really started in the late 60’s. I used the 1980s as a date because the West German government sponsored a symposium which shared the name of the policy, indicating acceptance at the highest levels. But the policy was still contentious, with Merkel’s environment minister, Sigmar Gabriel, criticizing the idea of dropping nuclear as a bridging energy source. Regardless, the anti-nuclear movement had some immensely large protests and the strength of that movement has been lost to time because they largely won. One of the largest protests was in the US, with between 500k and 1 mil protestors, in the 70s.
Hopefully pro-nuclear positions can again become mainstream in Germany, but those positions are also dependent on what Russia does.
Hopefully pro-nuclear positions can again become mainstream in Germany, but those positions are also dependent on what Russia does.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:26 pm to crazy4lsu
You're a history professor or have unusual non SEC baw interests.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:33 pm to crazy4lsu
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Regardless, the anti-nuclear movement had some immensely large protests and the strength of that movement has been lost to time because they largely won. One of the largest protests was in the US, with between 500k and 1 mil protestors, in the 70s.
The reality of what nuclear power can do for us will increasingly be front and center. The "China syndrome" mindset that likely killed nuclear energy as a growth option will be a savior in the future. Because by the time your kids, kids have to deal with oil and gas it will be scarce but available for a high price. Either solar panels and windmills will be miles above where we are now or we'll be cutting down trees for fuel.
We have a 500 year supply of coal in this country. So Ukraine is a war of Russian expansion but the fallout shows the vulnerability of these green non nuclear sentiments in Europe and America for that matter.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:34 pm to Jim Rockford
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IT wouldn't surprise me if Poland is like Japan, ostensibly a non nuclear power but with the ability to assemble one practically overnight if necessary.
Or an Israel style acquisition & farcical monitoring. Neither would shock me given current state.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Poland strip mines oil shale (like that in the rockies, not tight shale that is drilled and fractured) to use a fuel for its steam turbine power plants. It burns like coal.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The Ukranian Marshall Plan is going to be hilarious.. So many American businessmen will become more wealthy.
Sorry you don’t have connections.!
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:09 pm to LeClerc
Russia looks like a speedbump to confrontation with China by the West (which includes Japan, S. Korea, etc...)
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:27 pm to CitizenK
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Poland strip mines oil shale (like that in the rockies, not tight shale that is drilled and fractured) to use a fuel for its steam turbine power plants. It burns like coal.
In my former life I was a petroleum geologist. I know exactly what you are talking about. Coal is woody material like trees and leaves. Oil shale is something different more akin to oil source rock (algal) which is what is frac'd and produced.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:33 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Poland strip mines oil shale (like that in the rockies, not tight shale that is drilled and fractured) to use a fuel for its steam turbine power plants. It burns like coal. In my former life I was a petroleum geologist. I know exactly what you are talking about. Coal is woody material like trees and leaves. Oil shale is something different more akin to oil source rock (algal) which is what is frac'd and produced.
Who cares about that. Someone mentioned Poland, strip, and tight. Let’s liven this thread up with some Polish girls from tinder.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:38 pm to WeeWee
ISW update
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Russia’s stated objectives in its invasion of Ukraine remain regime change in Kyiv and the truncation of the sovereignty of any Ukrainian state that survives the Russian attack despite Russian military setbacks and rhetoric hinting at a reduction in war aims following those defeats
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Patrushev’s statement is noteworthy because of its timing and his position as a close confidante of Putin.
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Igor Girkin, a Russian nationalist and former commander of militants in the 2014 war in Donbas, responded to Patrushev’s statements and continued expressing his general disillusionment with the Kremlin’s official line on operations in Ukraine
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Key Takeaways
Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev restated Russian President Vladimir Putin’s initial objectives for operations in Ukraine, suggesting that the Kremlin retains maximalist objectives including regime change and territorial expansion far beyond the Donbas.
Russian forces continued offensive operations northwest and east of Slovyansk.Russian forces are attempting to advance west of the Lysychansk area toward Siversk.
Russian forces are likely attempting to gain access to village roads southeast of Bakhmut in order to advance on the city from the south.
Ukrainian forces conducted a limited counterattack southwest of Donetsk City.
Russian forces continued limited and unsuccessful assaults in northern Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian authorities are conducting escalated conscription measures in occupied territories to compensate for continuing manpower losses.
Russian authorities are continuing to consolidate administrative control of occupied areas of Ukraine, likely to set conditions for the direct annexation of these territories to the Russian Federation.
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