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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:01 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:01 am to
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If you were as objective and independent as you always say you are, you wouldn't make hyperbolic claims like this.


Its not hyperbolic.

Hows the ghost of Kiev doing?
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:02 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:02 am to
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It’s always this. What if what we’re doing isn’t hurting Russia? What if we’re only hurting ourselves, the cash isn’t really helping Ukraine, and we’re merely delaying the inevitable?
I can assure you that our help has led to Russian losses. I can also assure you that Ukraine is thankful for the aid. And delaying the inevitable end is the reason that we do absolutely anything, ever.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:05 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:05 am to
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. I can also assure you that Ukraine is thankful for the aid


Oh, I'm sure they are.

Corrupt nations love welfare, which rarely gets where it needs to go. I'm sure all of that money goes to the public good... none will be used to line pockets.

This isn't our War. Its Europes war.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:05 am to
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So long as they don’t directly attack a member of NATO, it is not inevitable.


Your naivety knows no bounds.

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You need to convince me that Putin is a Hitler or Stalin before I think that’s inevitable.



Did appeasement work with Hitler in 1938? Like Hitler, Putin has already been explicit about what he thinks his sphere of influence should be.

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Because this argument has been used so many fricking times against me that I no longer believe it.


You don't think China will see that they have to withstand less than 4 months of an invasion of Taiwan before the West would capitulate?



Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:06 am to
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More emotional based drivel.
I take it you agree with the points but just refuse to apply them to the situation?


You have an incredibly defeatist attitude. If you can't win, why even play the game right? You think fighting back is pointless if you can't win?

How can you even call yourself an American?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:07 am to
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You have an incredibly defeatist attitude.


Are you volunteering to fight? Or is this just more keyboard warrior bullshite?
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
223 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:08 am to
OMLandshark: “this will start world war 3!!!!!”


Also OMLandshark: “it’s inappropriate to look at how the other two world wars started; this isn’t one the same.”
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:09 am to
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Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6151 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:10 am to
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Its not hyperbolic.

Hows the ghost of Kiev doing?


The fact that you and a few choice others constantly bring up this tired trope even though no one has talked about it in 1,000 pages (because it was clearly propaganda) shows how out of touch you are.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 11:36 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:10 am to
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Aint that some shite. In the US, that's racist.

A Democrat wanting borders respected...
Do you really not understand the difference between, for example, a Mexican wanting to live in Texas vs. Mexico trying to annex Texas?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:11 am to
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Seriously, I’m not taking this shite from the Left that slanders and prosecutes border patrol for doing their jobs.


His statement about respecting borders was hilarious.

His cognitive dissonance is remarkable.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42788 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:11 am to
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Let me put it this way: in four months we’ve spent more cash on this war than we did the first two years of the War in Afghanistan total.

So what’s your point? We didn’t spend enough in Afghanistan or what?

Afghanistan has nothing to do with Russia and the Ukraine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:12 am to
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Aint that some shite. In the US, that's racist.

A Democrat wanting borders respected...
Do you really not understand the difference between


Here we go with more bullshite to explain your lack of being able to reason.

Do you respect borders?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:13 am to
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So what’s your point? We didn’t spend enough in Afghanistan or what?


We should probably spend more on Ukraine considering how well that money spent in Afghanistan went to defeating the bad dudes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:16 am to
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Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:17 am to
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You have an incredibly defeatist attitude. If you can't win, why even play the game right? You think fighting back is pointless if you can't win?



It’s not a close fight, and there’s nothing we can do that would shift the balance of power to favor Ukraine.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29109 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:17 am to
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RogerTheShrubber
You always fail to quote the parts that you can't respond to. Hilarious.
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Here we go with more bullshite to explain your lack of being able to reason.
You are the one who somehow doesn't see the difference between crossing a border and moving it.
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Do you respect borders?
I do, Roger. Now do you care to discuss this honestly or continue down your path of conflating a person crossing a border with a nation moving one?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42788 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:18 am to
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The difference between you and I is that I’m observing this war from an unbiased realistic viewpoint based upon upon decades of study of geopolitical and military history. You, on the other hand, base your view of this war from a purely emotional standpoint with no basis in reality.

You would have sided with Neville Chamberlain.
I would have sided with Churchill.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:19 am to
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I do, Roger.


Then you condemn the stupidity of calling border security racist?

Because I have never, not once...seen it. In fact, on that subject...
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