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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:44 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:45 am to
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There are so many similarities to how both World Wars started,


The official narrative here is Ukraine is crushing Russia.

Why do you think they could threaten anyone else?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16340 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:45 am to
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go back and read some history


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the world needs to US to put its head where it doesn’t belong.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:46 am to
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Or you’ve been listening to the likes of John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinzinger too much.


Profiteers.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:47 am to
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But I’m sorry, the only ones who benefit from this war continuing is Russia and Western politicians and defense contractors pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine to keep an already lost war going.


But Russia doesn't really benefit from a open ended conflict. They are losing men and material and treasure.

Long story short, the Russian Duma wouldn't be introducing measures mandating repair of military equipment and reduced pay for the workers if it was going well inside their own borders.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:48 am to
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But Russia doesn't really benefit from this continuing on


Our war industry does.

Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:50 am to
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I’ve hated Russia since I was an 18 year old zit faced tanker in West Germany waiting on the Soviet 5th Shock Army to storm through the Fulda Gap.


Not only did you learn absolutely nothing from that experience, but it turned you into an apathetic old man. Go play with your models and let us discuss real things, please.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:50 am to
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You would literally be a non functioning retard to think Russia is mobilized at full strength.


Guess you can't read and yet you call me a retard

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The only thing Russia has limited is an outright Mobilization.




Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:51 am to
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Not only did you learn absolutely nothing from that experience, but it turned you into an apathetic old man


Have you volunteered yet or is this just more keyboard warrior stupidity?
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:52 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:53 am to
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The only thing Russia has limited is an outright Mobilization.


Which is precisely what you argued against.

Russia is limiting its risk, particularly to aircraft and pilots.

Should Russia choose, this war ends in days.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:53 am to
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Our war industry does.


Man you really can't read . Why do you think I didn't respond to that part? Because of course they do
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:54 am to
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we’re merely delaying the inevitable


The inevitable in this case is armed conflict with Russia directly. Like I've stated many times, Russian security concerns were apparently so great that they could be satisfied with talks, as the build-up to the war illustrated. Those security concerns will continue. How you can't see this and can't see how withdrawing aid now is going to affect the one country you do care about is frankly amazing.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74067 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:54 am to
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So you would have recommended Ukraine just roll on over at the outset? They had no chance right? That’s the reality of it all right?


I think the Ukranians understand what it’s like living under the Russian boot much better than we do, and that’s why they chose to fight.


The difference between you and I is that I’m observing this war from an unbiased realistic viewpoint based upon upon decades of study of geopolitical and military history. You, on the other hand, base your view of this war from a purely emotional standpoint with no basis in reality.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:56 am to
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Man you really can't read . Why do you think I didn't respond to that part?


Has nothing to do with reading zippy, I'm not clairvoyant.

Its the official position of the US govt to prolong the war.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:57 am to
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unbiased realistic viewpoint


Emotional tards love cheap media propaganda. They're always wrong.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74067 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 10:59 am to
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I don't see anybody wanting the war to drag out. What I see is overwhelming people want borders respected and frick anyone who doesn't.


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So what? If someone comes to take what's yours, will you just give it to them if they have more firepower or will you take down as much as you can?


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Have you considered what the Ukrainians and the world would be throwing away by just letting Russia take what it wants?


More emotional based drivel.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
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Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6151 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:00 am to
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The official narrative here is Ukraine is crushing Russia.


If you were as objective and independent as you always say you are, you wouldn't make hyperbolic claims like this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 11:00 am to
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What I see is overwhelming people want borders respected


Aint that some shite. In the US, that's racist.

A Democrat wanting borders respected...
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