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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:27 pm to cypher
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:27 pm to cypher
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Given the overwhelming advantage of the Russian occupying forces in terms of artillery, aircraft, multiple rocket launchers, ammunition and personnel, continuing the defence of the city would have led to fatal consequences. In order to preserve the lives of Ukrainian defenders, the decision was taken to withdraw."
It's confusing to read this thread and think Ukraine is kicking butt just to read articles in msm that show Russia is just about done getting the land they want. If it's true that it's near the end why isn't Biden and the other leaders pushing for peace talks? It would save thousands of life's.
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:29 pm to WeeWee
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If Ukraine is given the weapons it was promised then it can. If it is not given the weapons it was promised then it cannot. A lot of people especially in Europe (aka Germany) are trying to sabotage the war effort by backing out on assistance commitments. So the bad news campaign is a PR campaign to make Europe actually honor its commitments instead of playing both sides of the table and stabbing Ukraine in the back.
thank you Germany, France, and Italy need to step tf up
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:29 pm to SOSFAN
quote:Why would they push for peace?
If it's true that it's near the end why isn't Biden and the other leaders pushing for peace talks? It would save thousands of life's.
It isn’t their lives they are risking and they can enrich themselves via some fat government money laundering.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:31 pm to Scruffy
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Considering I was 13
That explains a lot.
W, Cheney, Bolton, McCain, etc., etc.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:33 pm to Scruffy
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isn’t their lives they are risking and they can enrich themselves via some fat government money laundering.
Sad thing is the democratic leadership of our country back in 2014 and the present administration are almost as much at fault as Putin is for this conflict.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:37 pm to SOSFAN
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:40 pm to SOSFAN
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It would save thousands of life's.
And you know that how?
There’s no guarantee of that. Russia could invade another country next year. Russia could throw Ukraine into a famine. They could execute all Ukranian nationalists.
They have done all that before.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:41 pm to LSUCanFAN
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The casualty rates are still 2-1 3-1 RU-UA which is unsustainable.
TBH, that doesn’t sound sustainable for either side.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:45 pm to OMLandshark
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What do you mean your whole side of the aisle? Save for the War in Afghanistan (and we should have withdrawn the second we killed Bin Laden) I think every war we’ve fought in since WWII was a mistake. Henry Kissinger is not on my side of the aisle.
If you can’t see the necessity of the first gulf war, I don’t know what to say.
And I won’t even mention Korea.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:53 pm to doubleb
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:55 pm to doubleb
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:55 pm to DabosDynasty
Oh no, fellow Ukraine chickenhawks. Troubling news from our preferred shitlib news source in Keev this morning...
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:56 pm to OMLandshark
Man, you are so full of chit. You need to go away.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:56 pm to SirWinston
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:59 pm to OMLandshark
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Korea is the only one I’m considering may have been worth it. Gulf War, no.
You do know there were two gulf wars right? In the first one Iraq took over Kuwait and was threatening SA.
At the time we had become highly dependent on Saudi and to a lesser extent Kuwaiti oil. The free flow of oil to the US was in jeopardy. There’s no way we can let that happen.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 1:59 pm to doubleb
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This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:02 pm to doubleb
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Man, you are so full of chit. You need to go away.
Why because he has a different view than you? Actually I've been noticing more and more people are backing his views. Some of the posters here have tunnel vision and think it's treachery not to agree with them lock in step.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:05 pm to SOSFAN
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Why because he has a different view than you? Actually I've been noticing more and more people are backing his views. Some of the posters here have tunnel vision and think it's treachery not to agree with them lock in step.
No because he’s been preaching his BS for three days now, dominating a thread about the war, and he’s been all over the place. The guy is like a disease that won’t go away.
This isn’t a political thread, and he’s ruining it with his chit. It’s obvious.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:10 pm to OMLandshark
Didn’t they attack Kuwait because Iraq owed them billions for funding their oil with their previous decade earlier skirmish with Iran? Sadam was like “frick paying em back. Let’s just attack them.” 
Posted on 7/3/22 at 2:11 pm to doubleb
If the end result is in evitable than shouldn't Ukraine go to the table now while they still have some power instead of waiting to the end when they have nothing?
I do think that the length of time Russia has taken has made their "superpower" status appear to be a farce and that has weaken their negotiation power with the world tremendously.
I do think that the length of time Russia has taken has made their "superpower" status appear to be a farce and that has weaken their negotiation power with the world tremendously.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 2:17 pm
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