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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Your hatred for poor white people is repugnant.


On the other hand, Russia is the world’s foremost maker of poor white people. Everywhere Russians go the white people get poorer.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77539 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:52 pm to
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On the other hand, Russia is the world’s foremost maker of poor white people. Everywhere Russians go the white people get poorer.
Well, if Scruffy has learned anything from this current debacle and the positions shared by both our government and those in this thread, the ultimate goal of all of you is to make Russia wealthier and the US poorer.

Hell, the outcome of the sanctions has apparently resulted in such negative impacts on the West and positive impacts for Russia that all the “anti-Russian” posters in here must be staunch pro-Russia/Putin supporters.

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:12 pm to
$50 per barrel is breakeven price for Russian crude as a whole. That will vary from field to field.

If China buying at around $80 and India at around $75. Both likely $5 to $10 higher, there is no way that Russia is making what it says it is.

The problem for Europe is that they opted to go full Greta and start closing refineries and import refined products from Russia.

Gazprom owns 15% of natural gas storage capacity in Europe and did use any of that capacity ahead of last winter. That should have tipped Europe off long before any invasion.

The Kremlin has been obviously planning this for several years. One might think that Greta et al were Russian assets all along.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 4:14 pm to
Let me guess you went full Ron Paul decades ago when he was writing that Black men were infecting White women with AIDS on purpose OR you loved you some bankrupt peanut farmer
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 7:28 pm to
IsW update

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Russian military authorities are pursuing options to increase the available pool of eligible recruits to account for continued personnel losses in Ukraine.

Russian forces are continuing to fight for control of the Azot industrial plant and have destroyed all bridges between Severodonetsk and Lysychansk, likely to isolate the remaining Ukrainian defenders within the city from critical lines of communication.

Russian forces continue to prepare for offensive operations southeast of Izyum and west of Lyman toward Slovyansk.
Russian forces are continuing offensive operations to the east of Bakhmut near the T1302 highway to cut Ukrainian lines of communication to Severodonetsk-Lysychansk.

Russian forces continued offensive operations to push Ukrainian troops away from frontlines northeast of Kharkiv City.

Ukrainian counterattacks have forced Russian troops on the Southern Axis to take up and strengthen defensive positions.

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 7:29 pm to
This is from one of the ISW sections. Thought it was interesting

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Russian authorities may be accelerating plans to annex occupied areas of Ukraine and are arranging political and administrative contingencies for control of annexed territories. Russian military correspondent Sasha Kots posted an image of a map that was displayed at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum depicting a proposed scheme for the “administrative-territorial” division of Ukraine following the war on a three-to-five-year transition scale.[3] The proposed scheme divides Ukrainian oblasts into Russian “territorial districts" and suggests the manner in which Russian authorities hope to incorporate Ukrainian territory directly into Russia. Advisor to the Mayor of Mariupol Petro Andryushchenko additionally outlined a series of indicators that he claimed suggest that Russian authorities are planning to annex occupied Donetsk Oblast as soon as September 1, 2022.[4] Andryushchenko stated that the leadership of occupied Donetsk has entirely passed from authorities of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) to Russian officials and that Russian educational authorities are already referring to Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson as regions of Russia. Andryushchenko additionally stated that the financial and legal systems in occupied Donetsk have already transitioned to Russian systems. Despite the apparent lack of a Kremlin-backed mandate concerning the condition of occupied areas, Russian authorities are likely pushing to expedite a comprehensive annexation process in order to consolidate control over Ukrainian territories and integrate them into Russia’s political and economic environment. However, the Kremlin retains several options in occupied Ukrainian territory and is not bound to any single annexation plan.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:35 pm to
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An ever evolving thread for tracking news and other information related to Russian president Vladimir #Putin's #health. 1/ LINK


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#Putin #health ?? 16/
Newsweek is reporting that a classified U.S. assessment of Russian president Putin's health concludes that he underwent treatment in April for advanced cancer
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#Putin #health ?? 17/
Yet another report of Putin being very unsteady on his feet at a public appearance (this time, an awards ceremony this past Sunday)
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#Putin #health ?? 18/
(This is highly, HIGHLY speculative) A #Ukraine news outlet is reporting – based on "intelligence sources" – that Russian president Putin has fallen into a coma after a cancer-related operation and is in intensive care.
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This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 8:35 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:36 pm to
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Someone (maybe, #Kherson partisans) blew up the vehicle with the Russia appointed chief of the occupied #Kherson province administration, a local collaborant Vladimir Saldo. He and his bodyguards were badly wounded and sent to the ER, reports Ukr. serviceman Andriy Nemirovsky. LINK
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:43 pm to
But the sanctions aren't doing anything i thought

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The number of people living below the poverty line in Russia has grown by 41% in the first three months of 2022, the government's own stats agency says. That represents an increase from 12.4mn people at end of Dec 2021 to 20.9mn at the end of March. LINK
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:56 pm to
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Putin in a coma


Gonna have to pull a Lima/Palmetto on this one, boss. I’ll believe that when I see the state funeral. Until then, nah. Everyone knows that mean arse dictators usually live to a ripe old age. Mugabe lived into his 90’s, Castro almost did too.

Ole pooty is definitely in bad health, but I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep him beating for as long as they can.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5753 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 8:59 pm to
The Ukrainians have hit another Russian ammo dump. Looking at the maps - it seems to be about 30 miles inside Russian held ground. May indicate the Ukrainians have advanced. Or maybe used one of their Excalibur rounds.


Explosions and fire heard in occupied Nova Kakhovka
— Tuesday, 14 June 2022, 19:19

Ukrainska Pravda
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 10:11 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5753 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:05 pm to
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information related to Russian president Vladimir #Putin's #health.



Putin supposedly carries a suitcase for his shite when he travels to prevent any analysis.

Putin's Bodyguards Collect His Excrement On Trips Abroad To Hide Possible Health Problems: Report

Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3499 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:13 pm to
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The Kremlin has been obviously planning this for several years. One might think that Greta et al were Russian assets all along.


The Kremlin was popping champagne bottles on election night, when Potato was declared the winner.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:30 pm to
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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine triggered global condemnation and tough sanctions aimed at denting Moscow’s war chest. Yet Russia’s revenues from fossil fuels, by far its biggest export, soared to records in the first 100 days of its war on Ukraine, driven by a windfall from oil sales amid surging prices, a new analysis shows.

Russia earned what is very likely a record 93 billion euros in revenue from exports of oil, gas and coal in the first 100 days of the country’s invasion of Ukraine, according to data analyzed by the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air, a research organization based in Helsinki, Finland. About two-thirds of those earnings, the equivalent of about $97 billion, came from oil, and most of the remainder from natural gas.

“The current rate of revenue is unprecedented, because prices are unprecedented, and export volumes are close to their highest levels on record,” said Lauri Myllyvirta, an analyst who led the center’s research.


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The research found Russia’s export prices for fossil fuels have been on average around 60 percent higher than last year, even accounting for the fact that Russian oil is fetching about 30 percent below international market prices.


Even at a 30% discount to current market price Russia is making 60% more than last year because of the drastic increase in price.

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Europe, particularly, has struggled to wean itself from Russian energy, even as many countries send military aid to Ukraine. The European Union made most progress on reducing its imports of natural gas from Russia, buying 23 percent less in the first 100 days of the invasion than the same period the previous year. Still, income at Gazprom, Russia’s state-owned gas giant, remained about twice as high as the year before, thanks to higher gas prices, the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air found.

The European Union also reduced its imports of Russian crude oil, which declined 18 percent in May. But that dip was made up by India and the United Arab Emirates, leading to no net change in Russia’s oil export volumes, the research showed. India has become a significant importer of Russian crude oil, buying 18 percent of the country’s exports over the 100-day period.

The United States has made a dent in Russia’s earnings, banning all Russian fossil fuel imports. Still, the United States is importing refined oil products from countries like the Netherlands and India that most likely contain Russian crude, a loophole for oil from Russia to make its way to America.


Looks like on the whole the EU has reduced/been forced off of Russian O&G by about 20% or so in total give or take. If France, Germany, and Italy weren’t bucking the sanctions I’d bet that doubles or better to about half. But they can’t go without the oil, opec is loving this and won’t increase production to replace a Russian deficit if the west held to the sanctions strictly, and we certainly aren’t increasing production.

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Overall, China was the largest importer of Russian fossil fuels over the 100-day period, edging out Germany, Italy and the Netherlands. China imported the most oil; Japan was the top purchaser of Russian coal.


Not shocking China was the top importer but Germany and Italy are right there. Surprised Japan is purchasing Russian coal in that large of a quantity.

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European and United States-owned ships also continue to transport Russian oil.


Interesting…the major players levying and championing the sanctions are all not totally committed because they can’t be. You can only spite your face so much and record oil prices are about at the line in reality.

NYT
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30717 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:34 pm to
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The Kremlin was popping champagne bottles on election night, when Potato was declared the winner.


If so I don't think it worked out like they hoped.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:35 pm to
Russia is making money off of higher gas prices. But we are talking about the 40 oligarchs. The actual regular Ivan's and Ivanka's are hurting. This will eventually cause an uprising and further distrust of those at the top. It sucks and eventually they will need aid which will likely come from China. Ultimately it will and create an environment for global competition for our other trade partners to fill gaps in the supply chain.

Now sucks that is for sure. Long term it will benefit us, our supply chains, and global planning amongst our allies.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 9:36 pm to
Russia is making money off of higher gas prices. But we are talking about the 40 oligarchs. The actual regular Ivan's and Ivanka's are hurting. This will eventually cause an uprising and further distrust of those at the top. It sucks and eventually they will need aid which will likely come from China. Ultimately it will and create an environment for global competition for our other trade partners to fill gaps in the supply chain.

Now sucks that is for sure. Long term it will benefit us, our supply chains because corporations will now harder account for geopolitical risks, and global planning amongst our allies.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 10:57 pm to
I doubt that Russia can sustain production without western service companies.

As a Russian CEO told me in 2015, they need $50 per barrel to breakeven. So 35 and 40% discounts to China and India are making say $25 profit per barrel. Meanwhile China is buying cheaper Russian than Iranian, which doesn't make the Mullahs happy.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4660 posts
Posted on 6/15/22 at 5:20 am to
Big day today -
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On 15 June, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin will host an in-person Ukraine Defense Contact Group meeting of defense ministers in Brussels to discuss future weapons donations. It will be the third such meeting since the beginning of the Russian full-scale invasion. Last month, the previous virtual meeting of the group drew representatives from 47 countries, NATO, and the EU. “The US is willing to provide everything and – and to help Ukraine be successful,” Mr. Austin said during his visit to Thailand on 13 June answering the question whether the West is ready to meet Ukraine’s needs. However, it is not only up to the US to supply the 1,000 howitzers and 300 MLRS that Ukraine needs, but also up to other countries, whose defense ministers are going to meet on 15 June. The meeting will show whether other countries are willing and able to supply the much-needed equipment to help Ukraine win the race against time and repel the ongoing Russian invasion.

We should get some clarity on what the US and UK are going to supply later today or tommorrow. We will want to see substantial numbers of specific armaments/ammo and dates of delivery. Here is what the Ukrainians are asking for:

" Being straightforward – to end the war we need heavy weapons parity:

1000 howitzers caliber 155 mm;
300 MLRS;
500 tanks;
2000 armored vehicles;
1000 drones."

Yes, they're asking for a lot, but let's hope the valve opens today with a solid committment to get them what they want as soon as possible.
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