re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

remains to be sean, one major difference is that in Mariupol, the Russians couldn't entirely encircle due to the south side of the plant being on the shorefront. In Lyman, they can fully encircle.

Also Lyman is MUCH smaller than Mariupol.

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Anyone have any clue if they can put up the kind of fight Mariupol did being encircled?

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Why stand and fight? Could they not do an orderly retreat across the Donest River and defend the River line? What’s the best option?

My opinion (worth what you paid for it) is that Ukraine is fighting a slow retreat trying to bleed the Russians as much as possible and slow their advance until they are ready to fully launch their attack into the Izyum flank.

Of course now they have homemade UAV jammers

LINK

Here is visual proof of the "Terminator-2" BMPT weapon system deployed into Ukraine.

I started seeing posts on Twitter about the deployment of this weapon system a couple of days ago. This is one of the newest systems in the Russian arsenal and this is its first deployment into the war.

Russia has plans to export this system, so they are hoping it shows well on the battlefield.

https://twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1526651769144623104

Wikipedia:


The BMPT "Terminator" (Tank Support Fighting Vehicle)is an armored fighting vehicle (AFV), designed and manufactured by the Russian company Uralvagonzavod. This vehicle was designed for supporting tanks and other AFVs in urban areas. The BMPT is unofficially named the "Terminator" by the manufacturers. It is heavily armed and armored to survive in urban combat. The AFV is armed with four 9M120 Ataka missile launchers, two 30 mm 2A42 autocannons, two AG-17D grenade launchers, and one coaxial 7.62 mm PKTM machine gun.

The BMPT is built on the chassis of the widely-used T-72 main battle tank. The BMPT was designed based on combat experience gained during the Soviet–Afghan War and the First Chechen War. Multiple prototypes of a tank support combat vehicle were created prior to the design of the current BMPT. The Object 199 "Ramka" was the prototype later to be designated the modern BMPT with the official producer being Uralvagonzavod. By late 2013, the only operator of the BMPT was Kazakhstan.

A small number were delivered to the Russian Ground Forces for evaluation beginning in 2005. The Russian Defence Ministry finally ordered the BMPT in August 2017.[citation needed] Deliveries of more than 10 vehicles were begun in early 2018. On December 1, 2021, the first in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation BMPT company of nine combat vehicles was introduced into one of the tank regiments of the tank division of the Central Military District. The version, unofficially dubbed the "Terminator-3," incorporates the chassis, hulls, and components of the T-14 Armata tank.

Even more vulnerable to Javelins and NLAWs than T-72/T-80/T-90s.

Of course, none of that really matters when you send them out in a column without infantry support.

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Of course, none of that really matters when you send them out in a column without infantry support.

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Like this ?
https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1526693419384446977

This video shows a T80 being ambushed. The editing of this video is suspect as the foliage is much greener in the 1st half of the video than the 2nd. Regardless it still shows a T80 operating alone without any support and being ambushed.

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The editing of this video is suspect as the foliage is much greener in the 1st half of the video than the 2nd. Regardless it still shows a T80 operating alone without any support and being ambushed.

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The author is aware of the editing issues and shows a corrected video below the original.

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Here is visual proof of the "Terminator-2" BMPT weapon system deployed into Ukraine.

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Interesting. That looks like a T-55 or T-62 chassis. I wonder if those are conversion jobs. That would be a popular option in the Middle East and the third world, as there are thousands of those models in service there.

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The version, unofficially dubbed the "Terminator-3," incorporates the chassis, hulls, and components of the T-14 Armata tank.

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Note that part is about the Terminator-3 AKA the T-15 Armata the tweet is talking about the T-2 which is T-72 based. Russia wasn't planning to buy any T-2s because the T-15 existed but I guess they can't build those just like they can't build the T-14 MBTs.

Interesting looking at the T-2s I can't find a picture that shows one with either a hard or soft kill APS system. I thought they would have either Arena, Shtora, or both.

If they don't have Arena or other hard kill system it goes to Centinel's point about them being more vulnerable than their MBTs along with them being significantly lighter in the conventional armor area.

I wonder if that "column" is just the demonstrators they had or if they actually made an order or just bought some of the company's "lot" recently.

The huge variety of armor Russia has in the field must be an absolute logistical nightmare re parts. Their logistics are already fricked up like a football bat so this is just adding more complexity.