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re: Large explosion in Westlake
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:37 pm to redstick13
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:37 pm to redstick13
Few contractor and a few Westlake... all minor. Incredible news.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:41 pm
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:39 pm to wadewilson
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I'm assuming they have a rail spur in there as well.
Lots of interconnected rail there. EDC marine shipping is enough to overcome the logistics of that though.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:40 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
This one will be remembered for a while.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:44 pm to DeltaShadow
quote:Stop dangling that carrot out there brah.
All I know is if Citgo in Sulphur ever blows up Lake Charles will be vaporized
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:49 pm to Pettifogger
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Ie, in 5 or 10 years will anyone go "remember that one in Jan 2022" or is it more regular than that?
yes. I guarantee it'll be an equipment operator in site specifics wearing double denim talking about it to some helper
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:49 pm to redstick13
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The tank was empty when the explosion occurred.
(Non plant guy asking). What in an empty tank will explode?
Not kidding, I have no idea about these things. Hope everyone working there is ok.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:51 pm to alphaandomega
Vapors. An empty tank full of vapors is much more likely to explode than a full tank.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:51 pm to alphaandomega
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(Non plant guy asking). What in an empty tank will explode?
Vapors. Often worse than if the tank was full of liquid.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:52 pm to redstick13
Russians taking out infrastructure. Hopefully no one was injured.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:58 pm to alphaandomega
Vaporized EDC is what caused the Westlake Geismar explosion in 2012. As a vapor, once it gets to a certain heat it can start a chain reaction with the iron in the vessel and, well, without somewhere to go, boom.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:58 pm to redstick13
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Vapors. An empty tank full of vapors is much more likely to explode than a full tank.
Question is, why didn’t the relief valve do its job? A lot to look into here. If the valve wasn’t serviced in a timely manner a planner could be in trouble. If the set pressure is wrong, an engineer could be in trouble.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:01 pm to DeltaShadow
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All I know is if Citgo in Sulphur ever blows up Lake Charles will be vaporized
Same would probably happen if that LNG plant just south of lake Charles blew up.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:04 pm to lsu777
Glad to hear only minor injuries.
In a similar situation, a few years ago, several of us identified each other while riding on an evacuation bus to a muster point. Everyone was giving updates.
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Who the frick are you? I have to know now lol
In a similar situation, a few years ago, several of us identified each other while riding on an evacuation bus to a muster point. Everyone was giving updates.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:05 pm to DeltaShadow
if Citgo in Sulphur ever blows up Lake Charles will be vaporized
---not to mention Sulphur
---not to mention Sulphur
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:07 pm to Oilfieldbiology
It was the cat cracker in Norco. Overhead line developed a leak and the result was ignition of a gas vapor cloud.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:19 pm to redstick13
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Vapors. An empty tank full of vapors is much more likely to explode than a full tank.
Yep. Especially on mornings like this where you had a colder night and sun warming everything up the next day.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:20 pm to RemyLeBeau
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It was the cat cracker in Norco.
RIP cousin Billy.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:23 pm to RemyLeBeau
EDC (C2H4Cl2) is highly flammable and decomposes when heated to form Hydrochloric acid. It boils at 181 deg F and at 68 deg F its vapor pressure is only 1.2 psi (absolute). Empty tanks don't produce smoke when they blow up. If only EDC vapor present it would (probably) be under vacuum. If so, air could have leaked in and something produced a spark causing detonation.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:23 pm to skidry
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I think it’s the old PPG. Definitely NW of Citgo.
NW of Citgo is Carlyss. PPG is east of Citgo.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:25 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
I stand corrected. Will edit
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