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re: Lab grown diamonds
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:37 am to tigger4ever
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:37 am to tigger4ever
He could go down to Ace Hardware and pick up a can of lab grown gold and spray it on a bubble gum machine ring to compliment it.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:37 am to tigger4ever
Diamonds appreciate in value, slightly, over the long term. Diamonoids drop, substantially, the minute you buy them, and stay there.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:39 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Which is absolutely stupid
Don't disagree, but it is something worth considering when making a decision.
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It doesn't REALLY matter what it is or what the quality is or whatever. All that matters is the socially perceived value of the item. No sane human would actually spend the money that a natural flawless diamond costs when a chemically identical flawless diamond can be had for FAR less money. The problem is you need to spend the mountain of money on the lady, and the actual product itself does not matter as much as the bottom line on the invoice being as large as possible.
100% agree, which is why I said in my original post ultimately all she is going to care about long term is the compliments she gets on how it looks to the naked eye from some random jealous person on the street. If she doesn't care, I'd go lab 100%.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:40 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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You can't say Nope and then give a way that someone doing an inspection can tell
They can tell because of something humans did to the diamond. Not the actual diamond
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am to Hangit
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Diamonds appreciate in value, slightly, over the long term.
No they dont
Try to sell your wife’s diamond. You wont get half what you paid
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
Except gold is an element and can't be created. (Suck it alchemists.)
Perfect diamonds, nothing more than latticed carbon, can be created in labs.
But if you need a "real diamond" mined by poor Africans and sold to you at an artificially inflated price, more power to you.
Perfect diamonds, nothing more than latticed carbon, can be created in labs.
But if you need a "real diamond" mined by poor Africans and sold to you at an artificially inflated price, more power to you.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am to Boston911
WIRED article 2003
thank God the...ahem...DeBeers folks slow-rolled this tech and basically took control of it right down to adding serial #s to lab diamonds because they can't tell the difference otherwise.
would sure suck for everyone if the sub $10 lab diamond was a reality so they got everyone believing its still a thousand-dollar process
no matter what, they win, we lose.
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"No, they're real," I tell him. "But they were made by a machine in Florida for less than a hundred dollars."
Weingarten shifts uncomfortably in his chair and stares at the glittering gems on his dining room table. "Unless they can be detected," he says, "these stones will bankrupt the industry."
thank God the...ahem...DeBeers folks slow-rolled this tech and basically took control of it right down to adding serial #s to lab diamonds because they can't tell the difference otherwise.
would sure suck for everyone if the sub $10 lab diamond was a reality so they got everyone believing its still a thousand-dollar process
no matter what, they win, we lose.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am to Cosmo
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They can tell
Yes, I know.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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write the check
pay them cash and get a better deal 
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:42 am to tigger4ever
She will absolutely not know the difference. A lab grown diamond is a diamond. Not “diamond-like,” not fake, not cubic zirconia. It is chemically and physically a diamond. 100% carbon
• Same crystal structure (cubic carbon lattice)
• Same hardness (10 on the Mohs scale)
• Same optical properties (sparkle, fire, brilliance)
A lab-grown diamond meets every scientific definition of a diamond. This isn’t a fake diamond, it’s real in every way except you’re not getting ripped of by some 2nd rate used car salesman at Zales about the 3 C’s , lol.
• Same crystal structure (cubic carbon lattice)
• Same hardness (10 on the Mohs scale)
• Same optical properties (sparkle, fire, brilliance)
A lab-grown diamond meets every scientific definition of a diamond. This isn’t a fake diamond, it’s real in every way except you’re not getting ripped of by some 2nd rate used car salesman at Zales about the 3 C’s , lol.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:43 am to GoCrazyAuburn
FWIW, the trend with the 20 and 30 year olds is lab grown. They want bigger and flawless. My best friends son recently got engaged and it wasn’t even a discussion. They shopped for lab diamonds from day one. Same with all his friends. I am just happy to see younger people getting married before they start popping out little ones. It was trending away from that not too long ago.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:43 am to Blueghost1978
quote:Didn't DeBeers lobby to first stop lab diamonds from production then failing at that, took over as much of the tech as they could and force a regulation where serial #s have to be embedded because without that, you can't tell a real from a fake? lol
A lab-grown diamond meets every scientific definition of a diamond. This isn’t a fake diamond, it’s real in every way except you’re not getting ripped of by some 2nd rate used car salesman at Zales about the 3 C’s , lol.
yes, yes they did.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:47 am to tigger4ever
I'd take lab grown...those things are beautiful and you can get a rock for a fraction of the cost of a real one.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:48 am to SippyCup
Ya got a good one baw 
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:52 am to CAD703X
This is one of those things where the vastly cheaper product is also vastly superior by every conceivable metric.
We don't get that often in the world. The crazy thing is that the price for lab grown diamonds is STILL artificially dramatically inflated by the blood diamond market.
We use diamond for abrasives on concrete saws and sharpening stones in one market and sell them for $1,000 per carrot in another, and natural ones are sold for $10k per carrot...
Such a fricked up market. It makes me super happy to see the young kids reject that kind of bullshite. All the kids I know who've gotten engaged recently bought lab diamonds and I hate myself for getting a blood diamond. I know my wife sees her sisters both much cheaper and much larger ring with a little bit of envy.
We don't get that often in the world. The crazy thing is that the price for lab grown diamonds is STILL artificially dramatically inflated by the blood diamond market.
We use diamond for abrasives on concrete saws and sharpening stones in one market and sell them for $1,000 per carrot in another, and natural ones are sold for $10k per carrot...
Such a fricked up market. It makes me super happy to see the young kids reject that kind of bullshite. All the kids I know who've gotten engaged recently bought lab diamonds and I hate myself for getting a blood diamond. I know my wife sees her sisters both much cheaper and much larger ring with a little bit of envy.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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This is one of those things where the vastly cheaper product is also vastly superior by every conceivable metric.
Except for resale.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:56 am to SippyCup
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My wife will only accept dimaonds stained with the blood of underpaid Botswanan chidlren.
The only true answer
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:57 am to TDTOM
How do you want to look at it?
A $50k 3ct blood diamond will retain more of it's value but even if it retains 80% of it, you still lose $10,000 on resale.
A $10,000 3ct man made can retain 0.5% of its value and you still come out ahead vs the natural.
A $50k 3ct blood diamond will retain more of it's value but even if it retains 80% of it, you still lose $10,000 on resale.
A $10,000 3ct man made can retain 0.5% of its value and you still come out ahead vs the natural.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:57 am to SundayFunday
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No, your friend should absolutely get the lab grow diamond. They “are“ real diamonds and the main difference being a much lower price than “natural diamonds“ and the artificial diamonds are perfect. The diamond market is artificially manipulated to maintain high prices for diamonds that are otherwise not nearly as valuable as the prices are reflecting.
One of my neighbors is a prominent jeweler. He told me that over his long career he has always tried to buy one very expensive diamond as an investment. He’ll hold it for a year or two and then sell it at a great markup because they have increased in value so much. He keeps it with him a lot of the time so he can show it off. He is now holding a diamond that he bought about three years ago for about a million dollars. He can’t move it for more than $800,000 and he’s been holding on to it hoping that would change. But he’s giving up on it. The reality of lab grown diamonds is starting to drive natural diamond prices down. His advice to me was “Buy color”. Better advice is, Don’t buy jewelry.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 8:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:my wife wanted her grandmother's diamond so this was an easy call for me; i just got a nice ring with some itsy bitsy complimentary diamonds and our jeweler set her grandmother's diamond in it.
All the kids I know who've gotten engaged recently bought lab diamonds and I hate myself for getting a blood diamond. I know my wife sees her sisters both much cheaper and much larger ring with a little bit of envy.
and yes i've bought her some lab diamond earrings and yes it does piss me off that DeBeers still has their finger on the scales and lab diamonds should cost a fraction of a fraction of what they're still selling for.
i hope everyone reads that WIRED article as a cautionary tale and look at how DeBeers reacted to the technology and how they destroyed or took control of the various machines that could produce lab diamonds.
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