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re: La with 5388 positive new cases today, third highest day of entire pandemic.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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What we can do is get enough people vaccinated.
I’ll get it when the Democrats in the House vote to declassify the origin of the virus (which they voted against last night). So call the Democrat you voted for in November and tell them that.
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:22 pm to Steadyhands
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It is obvious, but frick that. Elderly and unhealthy people are not my problem. Protect yourself how you need to. Your protection should not infringe upon my life. If you're not fit with your own immune system to battle this, then get the vaccine, minimize public interaction, social distance when in public and where a mask. I will respect all of that, but don't ask me to get a vaccine to protect someone else.
Do you have kids? I ask because I'm guessing you'd be pissed if someone rejected the MMR vaccine for their child, then that kid got measles, recovered fine and spread it to your infant...who died from the same disease because he/she wasn't old enough to get the MMR yet.
The measles death rate is 0.1-0.2%, so most people would survive it just fine, just like covid. But it sure did become a huge fight when some people decided to forego that vaccine in the last several years. (I know no one shut anything down, and I'm not here to argue for that. I think far-reaching lockdowns are terrible.)
I'm truly not interested in arguing about the specifics of the covid vaccine and whether you should get it or not. I don't care. But your reasoning comes with a double standard, because odds are you'd care a lot if your kid was as affected as some of these elderly or unhealthy people.
It's just really, really weird to me that two years ago everyone here ridiculed anti-vaxxers who said "my/my child's immune system is just fine" and willingly caught/spread diseases with similar death rates and an age-related complication expectation. And now the "not me don't care" attitude is both prevalent and acceptable rationale here.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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Why is that my fault?
Because you refuse to get vaccinated, and that stupid mindset is pervasive in Louisiana.
You cannot blame the government because that's what governments do.
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They are not getting shutdown because people aren't getting a vaccination.
They are, effectively.
Now here is something actually laughable. You can call it how you want to, but you are making false statements now. It is the mindset that you have that is so wrong and gives power to these governments to do what they do.
Your last statement is just completely false and a misinformation sort of statement. That's what the government is wanting you to think, so you get mad at unvaccinated people rather than the actual problem.... Current political figures.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:23 pm to OldSouth
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So call the Democrat you voted for in November and tell them that.
I am a hardcore Republican and was big time Trump supporter and an even bigger Desantis supporter.
How is anything I have said remotely in favor of Democrats?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:25 pm to Steadyhands
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Your last statement is just completely false and a misinformation sort of statement. That's what the government is wanting you to think, so you get mad at unvaccinated people rather than the actual problem.... Current political figures.
We can do nothing about current political figures. That is the part you guys hate so much, because it is true.
I hate talking that kind of reality, but that IS the reality.
It is true.
I'll ask you:
The more people that get vaccinated, will we see a reduction in cases, hospitalizations, and deaths?
Yes, or no?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:25 pm to OldSouth
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I’ll get it when the Democrats in the House vote to declassify the origin of the virus (which they voted against last night). So call the Democrat you voted for in November and tell them that.
This thought process is insane. I vote straight Republican and got vaccinated. At this point the point of origin doesn't matter to me if I have a chance to protect myself and others around me.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:25 pm to Fun Bunch
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There's nothing we can do about JBE and the courts have made that abundantly clear.
Technically if more people had been smart enough to not vote for him in the first place.... With that, what we can do is hopefully having people that have wised up to not vote for him to be reelected.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:26 pm to Steadyhands
He can't run again this time, he was already re-elected 
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:26 pm to Queen
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I ask because I'm guessing you'd be pissed if someone rejected the MMR vaccine
Was just about to post this. Rubella (the R in MMR, for those who don't know) is very mild and almost nonexistent in this country, but we vaccinate anyway because it causes miscarriages and birth defects. So we vaccinate our kids to protect unborn babies.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:27 pm to BillBrosky
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This thought process is insane.
If it came from a Chinsese lab, it somehow makes it better if more people get it.
Makes total sense
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:27 pm to Queen
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measles
1 in 4 people on average with the measles requires hospitalization. If those same numbers were applied to today’s covid “cases”, hospitalizations would have jumped by 1,347 people compared to the Covid increase of 19 patients.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:bullshite. If you were conservative, you wouldn’t be trying to force people to do something they have the right not to do.
I am a hardcore Republican and was big time Trump supporter and an even bigger Desantis supporter.
How is anything I have said remotely in favor of Democrats?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:29 pm to Anonymous95
quote:Measles does have a lower mortality rate than covid though
1 in 4 people on average with the measles requires hospitalization
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:30 pm to OldSouth
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bullshite.
K
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ou wouldn’t be trying to force people to do something they have the right not to do.
I have no power to force people to do anything, and I would OBVIOUSLY be against mandated vaccines for something with such a low CFR as Covid (or really, anything).
My point has always been the same: If you are a conservative, you should get the vaccine simply to give a tyranical government less of an excuse to do what they desperately want to do.
I'm sorry you don't like that reality.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:31 pm to Steadyhands
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but don't ask me to get a vaccine to protect someone else.
Look, if I am asked to do something as simple as take a shot in order to protect others as well as myself then I am glad to do so. Well actually I did because I got vaccinated.. Either way, I don't know.. I just can't understand some of you people's mindset.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:31 pm to Queen
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Do you have kids? I ask because I'm guessing you'd be pissed if someone rejected the MMR vaccine
Yes I do, and yes I would. My child has had the MMR vaccine. These covid vaccines are in no way comparable to MMR yet. Additionally, covid is almost negligible for younger, healthier people. I am not anti vax, just haven't seen data suggesting a vaccine against covid is necessary. What I have seen is a bunch of people bitching at those not vaccinated when it doesn't effect them if they're vaccinated. Again, if you need it, get it.... Not if you need it, everyone should get it.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:33 pm to Steadyhands
I don't give two fricks if every single unvaccinated person dies of covid.
The only thing I care about are covid restrictions which will continue as long as you guys have your mindset.
I'm not sure how you don't understand that after what we have witnessed for the past 18 months, but keep living in NeverNeverland.
The only thing I care about are covid restrictions which will continue as long as you guys have your mindset.
I'm not sure how you don't understand that after what we have witnessed for the past 18 months, but keep living in NeverNeverland.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:34 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:So just keep keep doing exactly what the government tells you to do. The same government that is ACTIVELY covering up where the virus came from to begin with? You go ahead and sacrifice some freedom for security. A wiser man than me once said that people like you deserve neither.
My point has always been the same: If you are a conservative, you should get the vaccine simply to give a tyranical government less of an excuse to do what they desperately want to do.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:36 pm to Fun Bunch
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If you are a conservative, you should get the vaccine simply to give a tyranical government less of an excuse to do what they desperately want to do.
By this logic, I should get rid of all my guns so they can’t pass gun control legislation, right?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:36 pm to Steadyhands
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Yes I do, and yes I would. My child has had the MMR vaccine. These covid vaccines are in now way comparable to MMR yet.
Yeah, comparing emergency action use, non-FDA approved covid vaccine vs. MMR is different. Comparing covid to measles is asinine as well, considering the age groups they affect.
The virus most similar to covid is the flu. That is an acceptable comparison.
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