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re: LA Oyster Task Force on Cancelation of Diversion Project: Victory for LA's Working Coast

Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:31 am to
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1629 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:31 am to
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These people dominate our population


who? Commercial fishermen? Or simple minded, self-serving, myopic voters?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29105 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:34 am to
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LA Oyster Task Force


frick them. Taking some of the names on their website and running them through campaign finance records shows quite a bit of their personal money and also money from the companies they head up flowing towards Nungesser and Landry.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1629 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:36 am to
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Y'all need to wake and stop electing the republicans just because the opponent has a D next to their name.


There hasn't been a fricking democrat governor in my lifetime who was worth a shite for this state. And the Republicans weren't much better, albeit for different reasons. Louisiana exemplifies the phrase "broken system".
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
481 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:38 am to
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Because Honor Chode and Blanco were so great for Louisiana and our economy right?


They were not. I voted for Landry.
But I cannot see an arguement where cancelling a project like this is a good thing. Just talking specific to this project - it was good - it would have not only negated land loss, but started to rebuild land mass in an area that very much needs it. Plus the financial impacts. Terrible decision to cancel this.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111902 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:42 am to
I will be interested to see what these retards have to say when the next big hurricane wipes away the homes and businesses of the "thousands of hardworking Louisianians who make their living on the water" because of the continued loss of land due mainly to subsidence, which this project was aiming to mitigate.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 10:43 am
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14350 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:43 am to
That’s what happens when you put a levee in a delta.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2740 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 11:59 am to
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So dumb. The marsh is disappearing before our eyes. the oyster fishermen are part of it--dredging oyster beds, causing erosion.

This was the best option we had to add land, and we scrapped it.
You're not wrong, but let's all keep things in perspective here. We're talking about the federal government and some of its most inept, bureaucratic, activist agencies, along with the Louisiana government (speaks for itself regarding corruption): there is NO TELLING what the price tag would've wound up being, when it'd get done, if it'd even get done, and to what extent it would do what it was intended to do.

I'm not saying it's not a noble, badly needed endeavor, but the same government who created the problem and who is now going to "fix it," is also just as likely to wind up pissing away the money and causing even more irreparable damage. The kind of people that wind up being politicians and bureaucrats are, collectively, the largest contiguous group of dumbass narcissists that ever lived. As a group, they couldn't run an ice cream stand unless it was with unlimited funds from someone else's check book.

Exhibit A is the massive amount of funding they've used to get to the starting line in order to announce they've quit the race before it even started. This is the problem with government and large, multi-year civil projects: we have politicians too concerned with the next election cycle, unelected bureaucrats who know nothing except bureaucratic red tape, and behind the curtain are the people lining both groups' pockets with money to get their way. Private industry would not, and by economic laws, can not operate in this manner and still be in business.

It's not at all unreasonable to say that the taxpayers of LA and the entire country dodged a bullet, and unfortunately it's at the further expense of the LA marshes that they allowed to be exploited with impunity. This was just as likely to be a catastrophic front seat view of the Dunning-Kruger effect playing out in real time.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72627 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:06 pm to
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menhaden processors


Theory: This has jack frick to do with the oystermen.
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
481 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:15 pm to
I get what you are saying - but I was led to believe that the funding was pretty air tight once the BP money was awarded. In other words - once the BP trust approves a project and then awards/allocates the money - there is a very low level of fraud/shenningans/theft or whatever you want to call it that is possible. There is always that stuff - especially in Louisiana - but the funding for this seemed to be pretty solid. Not saying fraud or theft proof but pretty close.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
864 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:18 pm to
Seems like all the save our coast non profits, edf, sierra club, etc, some which have deep pockets, would pursue legal action to force the project that so many man hours have already been spent on.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
481 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:27 pm to
JBE did kinda set a precident early on in this process that the State of Louisiana had and maintained the opportunity to decline - the funding was provided by the BP trust but once that happened then the project was turned ove to CPRA and fell under the purview of the state. The trust can (and I thought they would) demand their money back - money that has already been spent for mobilization and site support. But I was told that they will not pursue that. I do expect a big frick you from them when we go to ask for funding for the next coastal project, however.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37735 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:28 pm to
frick all of them
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11954 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:42 pm to
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So dumb. The marsh is disappearing before our eyes. the oyster fishermen are part of it--dredging oyster beds, causing erosion.



Yep, but they have one of the largest lobbyist in the state, and this further proves their power. Its a shame.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29105 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:51 pm to
Follow the money. This is 10 mintues worth of research. I'm sure I could find way more, but I just filtered Billy's donations to show oyster companies. I didn't even look for personal names of the people that own these companies, or close relatives, or PACs associated with Nungesser.

Fat frick.

This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
481 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 12:58 pm to
Now do dredging companies.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24945 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Theory: This has jack frick to do with the oystermen.
It has everything to do with the oystermen. They’re the only ones who can’t easily just travel a few extra miles to fish higher salinity water and follow their target species.

I don’t know why the menhaden industry would even care about the diversion since they aren’t legally allowed to operate their boats within a half mile of the coast anyway. By the time you get all the way to the gulf, the salinity change from the diversion would be negligible at best. The pogey boats operate all around the mouth of the river in Venice, so freshwater from the river isn’t stopping them there.

Oystermen are just trying to make it sound like the project being stopped helps all the various commercial fisheries instead of it being self serving to only the oyster industry since they can’t just up and move their leases that’ll be impacted by the diversion.
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:12 pm to
I wonder if whoever wrote this realizes the guys that are actually out there in the boat sacking these oysters are illegals and will be deported?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40130 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:17 pm to
So we jeopardize millions of people so that a couple of thousand people don’t have to drive their boat further to fish.

And we were going to cover the additional cost of their additional travel.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27142 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:47 pm to
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Oystermen are just trying to make it sound like the project being stopped helps all the various commercial fisheries instead of it being self serving to only the oyster industry since they can’t just up and move their leases that’ll be impacted by the diversion.


Bingo.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10874 posts
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Because Honor Chode and Blanco were so great for Louisiana and our economy right?
about half the state thinks they were good for the state. Almost 100% agree landry and jindal were terrible governors.
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